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WiganSpur

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rossdapep said:
I don't think it's the number of goals Kane scores that is the issue in replacing.

You can always improve the frontline and spread the goals across a more fluid front 3.

The issue is the kind of goals Kane scores. He literally scores every kind of goal and that makes him irreplaceable.

If we were to continue playing the same way under conte, foe example, then Son and Richarlison are not going to score as many as Kane does in the situations he gets into.

But if you change the way you play and have goals coming from all over (midfielders making late runs, FBs playing on the shoulder) then you will create more chances thus score more.

You just won't have a player on the pitch in which you can say is guaranteed to score. They would need 2-3 chances per goal.
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Thing is, if you buy more of a conventional number 9 then with the playmakers we now have behind him then you can replace 80% of that output. If defences drop deep Maddison/GLC get too much space to play and shoot, and if you push up then that gives Richarlison/Muani/whoever space in behind. That 20% of times will be where Kane magic gets us out of trouble, but I guess that's the price we'll have to pay. And it might mean it allows to us to keep opponents out more often with defensive investments to combat that.

The type of 9 we should be targeting should be fast enough to run in behind, good in the air for teams who park the bus and a good finisher (because Richy isn't clinical). Anything else is a bonus they don't have to be technically amazing imo. Toney is probably the best fit.

I'd probably also take moving Son to a 9 position as long as we brought in the complete wide player on the left. (E.g one that gets in behind, can dribble and finish)
 
JUSTINSIGNAL

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Not sure if this has been linked yet?

Personally I reckon it's going to happen. The fact we are meeting with Bayern again after news leaking that Harry won't sign a contract this summer, and that we will therefore need sell, tells me that this time they will offer a fee that we'll accept.

Hopefully the Muani news is correct and we can move for him quickly when the Kane deal goes through.
 
brasil_spur

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Hotspur88 said:
I've heard absolutely nothing on the Kane situation but personal opinion is he leaves now. I don't see him signing a new contract and Ange does want it sorted ASAP! I'll say it again, this is not info, it's purely a gut feeling.
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I just don't see who is going to pay the money though. Bayern clearly aren't as otherwise they would have bid seriously to start with. Madrid won't, no-one in Italy has the money. It's basically PSG, one of the Saudi's or possibly one of the doped PL clubs, but the price would surely be higher for a PL club.

I can see a situation where we might want to sell him, just can't see one where we get the required amount bid to let him go.
 
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TheHodFather said:
How much would Kane actually be worth a few years down the line anyway? I think it really depends on what sort of wages he'd be looking for. Once players on big wages get into their (mid-ish) thirties isn't it generally a case of fees being pretty small to offset the size of the contract the player wants? Aside from Juventus spending big on a 33-year old Ronaldo, I'm struggling to think of a player of that sort of age going for a large fee in recent years. (Happy to be corrected if anyone can think of other examples...)
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I think, generally, you're right. Although Lewandowski is maybe a yardstick of what Kane could be worth in three years. He went to Barca for something like fifty million Euros when he was 33/34.
 
JacoZA

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My 5c: he’ll go this window, it won’t be for 100m, we’ll reinvest most of that money in players of which only 1 in 3 will be a success, he‘ll win the Bundesliga (yawn) but no Champions League, on aggregate we will neither improve nor weaken significantly from our current level in this first season (but the football will probably be more exciting), Kane will never play for Spurs again.
 
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JUSTINSIGNAL said:
Not sure if this has been linked yet?

Personally I reckon it's going to happen. The fact we are meeting with Bayern again after news leaking that Harry won't sign a contract this summer, and that we will therefore need sell, tells me that this time they will offer a fee that we'll accept.

Hopefully the Muani news is correct and we can move for him quickly when the Kane deal goes through.
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Friday!? Why wait until Friday!? Time is of the bloody essence here!
 
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I just don't get why he'd want to go to Bayern. Sure they'll win the Bundesliga but doubt they'll win the CL and he will also probably lose out on Shearer's record unless he intends to play until he is 40 for smaller, relegation fodder teams after he is finished in Germany.

Nobody will remember him winning the Bundesliga a few times.
 
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jonnyp said:
I just don't get why he'd want to go to Bayern. Sure they'll win the Bundesliga but doubt they'll win the CL and he will also probably lose out on Shearer's record unless he intends to play until he is 40 for smaller, relegation fodder teams after he is finished in Germany.

Nobody will remember him winning the Bundesliga a few times.
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As much as he obviously wants to win team trophies he also spoken before about wanting win the Ballon d'or as well.

If he cleans up domestically with Bayern next season, they reach the latter stages of the champions league, and England do well in the Euros he'll definitely be in the conversation for a Ballon D'or.
 
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mil1lion said:
So was it embarrassing for Barca to try and get Messi back? Was it embarrassing for Utd to get Ronaldo back? No I don't buy it. I reckon Kane is world class in 5 years time and if we're able to sign him back then it will only benefit us. He's a club legend and if he's better than we have in a few years it would make sense. It has to be our choice though. Reality is we finished 8th last season and have no European football. Its difficult to keep a player like Kane in those circumstances. If he wanted to come back it will be because we've got back in contention again.
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Yes it was embarrassing and both were terrible ideas and have proven to be now given what happened. Lets just look forward for once and stop yearning for the past.
 
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Bluto Blutarsky said:
Maybe their chairman does not travel with the team in pre-season...
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Don't know but I bet he doesn't travel with the team on the Munchin Fart man
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mil1lion

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Stamford said:
Yes it was embarrassing and both were terrible ideas and have proven to be now given what happened. Lets just look forward for once and stop yearning for the past.
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There will always be a place for top quality experienced players though. It's irrelevant whether they played for us before already. It's more important to determine who we need at any given time and if a player fits then go get them. If we sell Kane and later down the line we find ourselves in need of an experienced striker then I don't see why it's embarrassing if we got him back.
 
mil1lion

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jonnyp said:
I just don't get why he'd want to go to Bayern. Sure they'll win the Bundesliga but doubt they'll win the CL and he will also probably lose out on Shearer's record unless he intends to play until he is 40 for smaller, relegation fodder teams after he is finished in Germany.

Nobody will remember him winning the Bundesliga a few times.
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I think people underestimate how big Bayern are. They're one of the biggest clubs in the world. A Bundesliga title is better than no titles and they have won the CL a couple of times in more recent years. He might also feel happy enough with personal records now being England and Spurs all time top scorer. It doesn't appear that the Shearer record is as important as we think. Maybe because it's still not the all time record scorer anyway just the premier league era. He clearly wants to experience winning titles and it's not exactly a bad league, just Bayern are dominant over there. Then again so are City these days.
 
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mil1lion said:
I think people underestimate how big Bayern are. They're one of the biggest clubs in the world. A Bundesliga title is better than no titles and they have won the CL a couple of times in more recent years. He might also feel happy enough with personal records now being England and Spurs all time top scorer. It doesn't appear that the Shearer record is as important as we think. Maybe because it's still not the all time record scorer anyway just the premier league era. He clearly wants to experience winning titles and it's not exactly a bad league, just Bayern are dominant over there. Then again so are City these days.
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It's also a lovely city.
 
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