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joey55

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I love it when Bent scores becasue he gets so unfairly slated on here. He's a percentage stiker! He's never going to be pleasing on the eye. But he'll play the percentages all day long and therefore at the end of the season will have scored an amount of goals that illustrate this. It's about making the runs to be in the right place at the right time, rather than relying on great technical ability. He's never going to score Berbatov style goals, but he will make runs into the right area all day long and therefore can be sure of getting in scoring positions and thus a certain percentage of the time put the ball in the back of the net.
 

Blotto

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I agree with all the positive sentiments expressed here about Bent, I thought he was quite impressive against Wilsa--gave a great effort, going after the ball and should have had the brace were it not for a terrible off-sides call. Go on Benty!
 

Blotto

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I love it when Bent scores becasue he gets so unfairly slated on here. He's a percentage stiker! He's never going to be pleasing on the eye. But he'll play the percentages all day long and therefore at the end of the season will have scored an amount of goals that illustrate this. It's about making the runs to be in the right place at the right time, rather than relying on great technical ability. He's never going to score Berbatov style goals, but he will make runs into the right area all day long and therefore can be sure of getting in scoring positions and thus a certain percentage of the time put the ball in the back of the net.

Sounds good to me! :up:
 

gibbs131

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I love it when Bent scores becasue he gets so unfairly slated on here. He's a percentage stiker! He's never going to be pleasing on the eye. But he'll play the percentages all day long and therefore at the end of the season will have scored an amount of goals that illustrate this. It's about making the runs to be in the right place at the right time, rather than relying on great technical ability. He's never going to score Berbatov style goals, but he will make runs into the right area all day long and therefore can be sure of getting in scoring positions and thus a certain percentage of the time put the ball in the back of the net.

Unfairly slated?

Price has a little to do with it.
 

PT

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Unfairly slated?

Price has a little to do with it.
His price tag is not his ball and chain though. If players got het up with what they cost their new clubs there would be a psychiatric ward full of ex-players. He just gets on with the job he is put in the team to do, as do they all. :shrug:
 

Rackybear

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People say, when we create Bent will score bucket loads and he has done well to even score three goals so far with the limited oppurtunites he has had, but thats not the problem.

The reason we are not creating chances is mostly because we have Bent up front. Everyone is saying the service from the midfielders has been poor, and whilst ill say it has not been great, in past seasons its not the service from the middle that has led to us scoring so many goals, it was the understanding keano and berbatov had up top and led to them creating oppurtunites for each other.

Most of our goals came because of Berbatov's ability to hold the ball up, win flick on's for keane to run onto, or vice versa for keane dropping deep and helping create.

I know bent does not do this, but we will create very little chances for him in the first place because of it. He simply wants through balls and 1on1 oppurtunites as well as poachers goals, this means we need the midfield to push on and help create that sort of opening, its not going to happen much.

Hopefully pav or campbell can add another dimension to our attack, because it is seriously needed.
 

southgatespur40

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i think bent is a good player definitely but do you think he was better being a big fish in a small pond?
 

themanwhofellasleep

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People say, when we create Bent will score bucket loads and he has done well to even score three goals so far with the limited oppurtunites he has had, but thats not the problem.

The reason we are not creating chances is mostly because we have Bent up front. Everyone is saying the service from the midfielders has been poor, and whilst ill say it has not been great, in past seasons its not the service from the middle that has led to us scoring so many goals, it was the understanding keano and berbatov had up top and led to them creating oppurtunites for each other.

Most of our goals came because of Berbatov's ability to hold the ball up, win flick on's for keane to run onto, or vice versa for keane dropping deep and helping create.

I know bent does not do this, but we will create very little chances for him in the first place because of it. He simply wants through balls and 1on1 oppurtunites as well as poachers goals, this means we need the midfield to push on and help create that sort of opening, its not going to happen much.

Hopefully pav or campbell can add another dimension to our attack, because it is seriously needed.

You're absolutely right. Bent is guilty of not being Keane or Berbatov. But we didn't buy him to be Keane or Berbatov. We bought him to be a bigger version of Defoe, full of pace and power, with the added bonus of being taller than a dwarf. Keane and Berbatov got the midfield out of jail over the last few seasons by doing a lot of their work for them - now it's time for our midfielders to actually create chances for Bent.
 

beals

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I'm glad to see the lad being given a chance. If we can shore up our defence and stop letting in 2 goals a game, I think he'll score more than enough.
 

Marty

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People say, when we create Bent will score bucket loads and he has done well to even score three goals so far with the limited oppurtunites he has had, but thats not the problem.

The reason we are not creating chances is mostly because we have Bent up front. Everyone is saying the service from the midfielders has been poor, and whilst ill say it has not been great, in past seasons its not the service from the middle that has led to us scoring so many goals, it was the understanding keano and berbatov had up top and led to them creating oppurtunites for each other.

Most of our goals came because of Berbatov's ability to hold the ball up, win flick on's for keane to run onto, or vice versa for keane dropping deep and helping create.

I know bent does not do this, but we will create very little chances for him in the first place because of it. He simply wants through balls and 1on1 oppurtunites as well as poachers goals, this means we need the midfield to push on and help create that sort of opening, its not going to happen much.

Hopefully pav or campbell can add another dimension to our attack, because it is seriously needed.
You're saying that as if it's a negative thing, but really, it's totally out of order for a team to be so reliant on the strikers to score goals as we were last season. Our midfield did pretty much bugger all the whole year and Ramos bought a lot of new midfielders, most notably Modric and Bentley, specifically so they can provide a creative outlet so our strikers don't have to do everything on their own.

Yes, it would be nice to see Bent do more for the team than just be there to stick the ball in the net, but look at ManUre, and how Rooney and Tevez, Shrek in particular, are totally goal shy and seem to play for the sole purpose of creating chances for the other one. With Ronaldo last year ManUre had the goalscorer anyway, he just played on the wing instead of up front, and we all see how ManUre have struggled (by their standards) so far this season.

I'd honestly much rather have a midfield that created the chances and a forward who bashed a lot of them in that be so reliant on the strikers to do the job that if one of them had an off day we'd be screwed, which happened a lot last season.
 

Rackybear

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You're absolutely right. Bent is guilty of not being Keane or Berbatov. But we didn't buy him to be Keane or Berbatov. We bought him to be a bigger version of Defoe, full of pace and power, with the added bonus of being taller than a dwarf. Keane and Berbatov got the midfield out of jail over the last few seasons by doing a lot of their work for them - now it's time for our midfielders to actually create chances for Bent.

I know bent is not keane or berbatov, I acknowledge that. But it seems to me, that we need the charecteristics of those two players to continue to have as threatening a strikeforce as the previous two seasons - something which 'spurs' have almost become labbelled with - "bags of goals / White Hot Lane / Entertainment for a mutual". We are slowly rubbing this tag off, and its not a good thing, because I liked it when pundits would tip us for wins because we had such an exemplary forward line to threaten the best of defences.

The whole keane / berba charecteristics is something I also think we have tried to recreate with pavlyuchenko and arshavin, who both imo are almost like for like. Perhaps not so much pav with berba, but from what ive seen you could almost say Arshavin is even better then keane at what he does - so this is something to look forward to.

But until then, yes you are right, our midfield needs to work harder. Hopefully when we do get the frontmen we want, along with our hardworking midfield our team will be the strongest we have had for many many years.

You're saying that as if it's a negative thing, but really, it's totally out of order for a team to be so reliant on the strikers to score goals as we were last season. Our midfield did pretty much bugger all the whole year and Ramos bought a lot of new midfielders, most notably Modric and Bentley, specifically so they can provide a creative outlet so our strikers don't have to do everything on their own.

Yes, it would be nice to see Bent do more for the team than just be there to stick the ball in the net, but look at ManUre, and how Rooney and Tevez, Shrek in particular, are totally goal shy and seem to play for the sole purpose of creating chances for the other one. With Ronaldo last year ManUre had the goalscorer anyway, he just played on the wing instead of up front, and we all see how ManUre have struggled (by their standards) so far this season.

Im not slating Bent for him wanting 1on1 chances and so on, but those are the kind of oppurtunites he strives on, and are not exactly the type of oppurtunites we have been known to or play to create. Like many have said, holding up the ball etc.. is not his game, so asking him to do more would be asking him to change the way he plays the game - which is wrong. We should accept the player he is, but what im trying to say is - is he the right type of player for spurs, or continue or surpass the level that was left behind by Berbatov and Keane? Can you see him forging a typically world class partnership with campbell or pavlyuchenko?

As per the Dan Ashcroft thread, I dont think Bent has a long term future at spurs. But whilst he is here and has a spurs shirt, i will give him 100% support.
 

southlondonyiddo

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I dont wont to piss on the Bent is great thread but from what i've seen already this season i'd be starting with

PAV - FC

Bent was the fourth best striker at the club and unfortunately after seeing quite alot of him I now think he's the third best striker at the club.

Pav looked good and I like his attitude and workrate. Strong, holds it up quite well and has a touch of class

Cambell looks like a pitbull, has real class and runs his socks off and also has a fantastic attitude.

Bent is quick and scores goals sometimes
 

SpurSince57

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Check his scoring record for us in detail, and it's rather better than 'sometimes'.
 

The Apprentice

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Check his scoring record for us in detail, and it's rather better than 'sometimes'.

It must be your age SS but you're getting your views all muddled. The reason you used to slate Defoe was purely for not contributing to the "team" and only scoring goals for himself. But with Bent it's a different story I guess.

In Bent we have a totally average footballer who offers zero by way of link up play and assists. Granted, he scores his fair share of tap ins but his effect on our style of play is minimal. Maybe if he could control the ball and hold it up for more than 2 seconds, some of our creative midfielders would be able to catch up with him.

It is widely believed that we now have the most creative midfield options in donkeys years, yet we're not creating much. Is this because all 5-6 of them are playing poorly? Or could it possibly be that they are having to feed off of a striker that wouldn't understand a one-two if it hit him on the nose.
 

diegooners

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when we had Defoe we also had Keane and Berbatov. Now we have Fraizer Campbell. Context has changed a bit.
 

claw_diddy

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Bent was fantastic in pre-season and has kept scoring since.

Our major problem yet again has been leaking goals at the other end. We averaged 2 goals against in all of our home league ties - not good enough.

The midfield are neither creative or defensive enough - put that right and it should all fall into place.
 
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