Next spurs manager?

thekneaf · Mar 21, 2011

The boon to coming to Tottenham for a top manager, like Jose, would be that with a little push he could tip us into the realms of the truly great teams and reap most of the credit. Utd are at the top, how to you better what Fergie has done?

That said, any new manager is a risk. That's why we can only we hope hang onto the one that's working at the moment.

Matt C · Mar 21, 2011

Plus if he chose us over City he would get far more credit and admiration too.

He took City to glory then it would be no big deal given they spend more than the rest of the premiership put together and more, any silverware he achieves would be severely tarnished.

He takes us to glory it would equal or even out rank Porto and would be the ultimate ego inflater for Jose, he would lay claim to being the greatest manager ever.

TwoSaintsComeMarching · Mar 21, 2011

StartingPrice said:
:rofl: You've just got used to colourful press-conferences:wink:

Maybe

But I really rate him as a manger too.

StartingPrice · Mar 21, 2011

TwoSaintsComeMarching said:
Maybe

But I really rate him as a manger too.

'Arry: "I'm not a facking wheeler-dealer, I'm a facking football manager, fack orf" (Eek).
Holly: "They speak abowt me out tharr loike Oi'm a village idiot, Oi'm nat, Oi'm a football managerrr"

hump

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They agree with you.

Liquidator · Mar 21, 2011

I agree that Mourinho is a possibility, and he is on record as saying anytime he gets a chance "Come and get me you rich premiership chairmen" oops, I'm sorry, I paraphrase - he actually says "My next job will be in England".

I also think that with such wonderful performances in the CL, Spurs have made a few footballing folk in Europe sit up and take notice this season, so it makes sense that the club are on the radar of managers that previously would not have considered us.

Quite right too. And we might have a bigger ground one day...

We live in hope.

brett.spurs · Mar 21, 2011

Azrael said:
^ I think its amusing that dispite 2 seasons of dire crap from Liverpool they are still considered a more preferrable option in the eyes of fandom.

What about the previous 50 years?

And despite their dire crap they're 1 place behind us.

Azrael · Mar 21, 2011

brett.spurs said:
What about the previous 50 years?

And despite their dire crap they're 1 place behind us.

Yes......behind us. Spot that?

The past is irrelevant. It's like saying a manager should come to us because we were the first club to win the double.

What matters is the future. I reckon we have just as much, if not more, furture potential as that deplorable scouse filth.

StartingPrice · Mar 21, 2011

brett.spurs said:
What about the previous 50 years?

And despite their dire crap they're 1 place behind us.

But for the 50 years before that Everton were the big club in Liverpool, and we were more successful than them. So, they have had a period of dominance. It ended. They have yet to come to terms with that. Neither have many other fans of other clubs, including Spurs fans, and, seemingly, you. ]
The fact remains, however, that we are above them in the league, and were so last season,and havea better squad than them. We also have a more realistic chance of redeveloping our ground sometime soon.

brett.spurs · Mar 21, 2011

Liverpool will always be a bigger draw to players/managers than us, 18 months changes nothing. Unless we go through 20 years of dominance then it will remain that way.

SP - why don't you ask your mate Joe Cole why he chose Liverpool over us, and don't say it was purely down to money.

Azrael · Mar 21, 2011

brett.spurs said:
Liverpool will always be a bigger draw to players/managers than us, 18 months changes nothing. Unless we go through 20 years of dominance then it will remain that way.

SP - why don't you ask your mate Joe Cole why he chose Liverpool over us, and don't say it was purely down to money.

Maybe you should support them if we are such a lost cause.

Such Small Portions · Mar 21, 2011

If Mourinho's coming back to the Premier League - and his pet journos insist that he is - then his most likely destinations are City and Chelsea.

I think both clubs will change their managers this summer, for a start.

City will offer to make him the highest paid manager in history and give him a virtually limitless transfer budget.

At Chelsea, Abramovich might have to swallow his pride and ask Jose to come back and finish the job - i.e. win the Champions League.

But, I also think there's a chance that the Spurs job might just appeal to his ego. If he could deliver the title to White Hart Lane after more than 50 years then he would, probably correctly, take the vast majority of the credit.

I'm not a huge fan of the way his teams play or the way he conducts himself, but he has a huge impact on the clubs he joins. It takes something very special to change the actual 'personality' or DNA of a club. To be fair, Wenger did it at Arsenal.

And at Chelsea, yes, they wouldn't have done it without the money, but they spend a shit load before he came and they couldn't get over the line. He was the difference.

He could do the same for us. Maybe.

And if he wants a statue built as a reward, fine. I'll organise a whip round for the marble.

Oh, or Coyle. He's good too.

StartingPrice · Mar 21, 2011

brett.spurs said:
1) Liverpool will always be a bigger draw to players/managers than us, 18 months changes nothing. Unless we go through 20 years of dominance then it will remain that way.

2) SP - why don't you ask your mate Joe Cole why he chose Liverpool over us, and don't say it was purely down to money.

1) I would concede, because I will always aim at realism (unlike some) they they remain a disproportionately large pull due to their period of dominance. But that will recede fast in time, as evidenced by the fact that Suarez (allegedly) issued a 'come-and-get-me' plea to us, and not to Liverpool. I would say that, our pull is pretty even at the moment, and if we qualify for CL again and they don't, it will swing in our favour. But I am older than you, Brett, and never developed that overweaning inferiority complex with regard to Liverpool and United that Spurs fans born after 1980 did;

2) That is just trite, Brett. I think a large partof it WAS the money, and another large part of it was a desire, which he stated, to get away from London.
To throw the same logic at you, do you really believe that x-number of years out of the CL, for them, and in it for us, will still see players opting to go to them over us?

brett.spurs · Mar 21, 2011

Ofcourse we're not a lost clause but you're all being incredibly naive. Take two comparitive clubs from Spain then - Real Madrid and Valencia, if the latter finished above Real for two seasons would it mean all future players and managers would rather go there? ... no way jose. And using Valencia as a comparitive to us is kind seeing as though they've won the league fairly recently and are often in the CL.

Azrael · Mar 21, 2011

Such Small Portions said:
If Mourinho's coming back to the Premier League - and his pet journos insist that he is - then his most likely destinations are City and Chelsea.

I think both clubs will change their managers this summer, for a start.

City will offer to make him the highest paid manager in history and give him a virtually limitless transfer budget.

At Chelsea, Abramovich might have to swallow his pride and ask Jose to come back and finish the job - i.e. win the Champions League.

But, I also think there's a chance that the Spurs job might just appeal to his ego. If he could deliver the title to White Hart Lane after more than 50 years then he would, probably correctly, take the vast majority of the credit.

I'm not a huge fan of the way his teams play or the way he conducts himself, but he has a huge impact on the clubs he joins. It takes something very special to change the actual 'personality' or DNA of a club. To be fair, Wenger did it at Arsenal.

And at Chelsea, yes, they wouldn't have done it without the money, but they spend a shit load before he came and they couldn't get over the line. He was the difference.

He could do the same for us. Maybe.

And if he wants a statue built as a reward, fine. I'll organise a whip round for the marble.

Oh, or Coyle. He's good too.

See the reason I don't agree with view like this is the assumption that he wants the ride possible.

He's not going back to Chelsea. That much is certain. That leaves City according to you. He's at the biggest club in the world right now, plus he has won the PL with mega funds already. What sets him apart from others is that he likes the challenge. That's why I think the assumption that he'll go to City just because they are super rich is completely misguided.

Azrael · Mar 21, 2011

brett.spurs said:
Ofcourse we're not a lost clause but you're all being incredibly naive. Take two comparitive clubs from Spain then - Real Madrid and Valencia, if the latter finished above Real for two seasons would it mean all future players and managers would rather go there? ... no way jose. And using Valencia as a comparitive to us is kind seeing as though they've won the league fairly recently and are often in the CL.

Liverpool are not Real Madrid. :rofl:

StartingPrice · Mar 21, 2011

brett.spurs said:
Ofcourse we're not a lost clause but you're all being incredibly naive. Take two comparitive clubs from Spain then - Real Madrid and Valencia, if the latter finished above Real for two seasons would it mean all future players and managers would rather go there? ... no way jose. And using Valencia as a comparitive to us is kind seeing as though they've won the league fairly recently and are often in the CL.

But it was only in the mid 1990s, I would say, after Liverpool's period of dominance, and when it became apparent that United 'could'have a similar period of dominance, that Spurs ceased to be seen in the public consciousness as one of the premier clubs of England (and then, primarily, in the consciousness of younger people). Can you say the same for Valencia. We were the firt team to win the double in this country, the first team to win a European trophy, the great entertainers, the innovators.
Like I said, get over your inferiority complex...I don't share it.

kdspur · Mar 21, 2011

id say one of united or city will get to mourinho first. it will be tricky situation cos harry is nailed on for england. BUT will he actually take it. i know he says it will be hard to turn it down but im not so sure? if he does go i think mourinho will be snapped up by someone before then which leads me to someone like martin o neill or david moyes. they wud be my 2. maybe even gaurdiola as an outside or long shot! he wont stick around for 2 long at barca. seems to go for season to season.

maglajz · Mar 21, 2011

Right now my first choice would be Owen Coyle, but in a year? Who knows...

Such Small Portions · Mar 21, 2011

Azrael said:
See the reason I don't agree with view like this is the assumption that he wants the ride possible.

He's not going back to Chelsea. That much is certain. That leaves City according to you. He's at the biggest club in the world right now, plus he has won the PL with mega funds already. What sets him apart from others is that he likes the challenge. That's why I think the assumption that he'll go to City just because they are super rich is completely misguided.

I don't understand the bit about 'he wants the ride possible', sorry.

And I wasn't assuming he's going to City, but if you're going to discuss Mourinho coming back to England and which club he might end up at, I think City have to be part of that discussion.

What I was actually trying to say, and apologies if it wasn't clear, is that we are in with a shout because it's the sort of challenge that appeals to him (and his ego, in my opinion).

You're probably right to rule out Chelsea, mind. The Russian and some of the more influential players probably wouldn't want him back, even if all the fans do. They are so gay for Jose.

brett.spurs · Mar 21, 2011

Azrael said:
See the reason I don't agree with view like this is the assumption that he wants the ride possible.

He's not going back to Chelsea. That much is certain. That leaves City according to you. He's at the biggest club in the world right now, plus he has won the PL with mega funds already. What sets him apart from others is that he likes the challenge. That's why I think the assumption that he'll go to City just because they are super rich is completely misguided.

He made his name at Porto. Went to Chelsea and spent a ton, same with Inter and the same with Madrid. If he goes to City and wins the League, Champions League, FA Cup etc, it's not going to down in the history books with a note at the side saying "although he spent 500 gazillion on players so his achievements are diminished" He'll be known as the manager that finally brought trophies to Man City.

Azrael said:
Liverpool are not Real Madrid. :rofl:

No, but they're close. You're certainly underrating just how big Liverpool are, to say a 5th place finish to their 6th changes things is .. well .. :duh:

StartingPrice said:
Like I said, get over your inferiority complex...I don't share it.

We don't all live in your world where everyone answers to Tottenham Hotspur, SP.

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