AVB vs. the home support

parklane1 · Oct 29, 2013

CowInAComa said:
Tongue in cheek in so far as I know its not going to happen. It would be the best way to improve the match day atmosphere though.

How do you solve the problem of an aging set of season ticket holders? I assume you arent going to give yours up until you cant physically get there anymore?

Not at all, i would be lost without it and i still sing at my age. The problem is not down to older guys going to games, a lot of it is down to those who " i want it and i want it now" sign of the times and the age we live in.

CowInAComa · Oct 29, 2013

parklane1 said:
Not at all, i would be lost without it and i still sing at my age. The problem is not down to older guys going to games, a lot of it is down to those who " i want it and i want it now" sign of the times and the age we live in.

But people complain that about the atmosphere and point to clubs like Dortmund who have a stand bouncing in unison and waving banners/flags blah blah. Can you see a stadium filled predominantly of 50/60 year old fellas ever doing that? Seriously?

Realistically lifelong season tickets are going to create that sort of issue.

Obviously football is a game for every age and stadiums have always had the life long guys turning up, but its going to be a bigger problem in the future as people hold onto a season ticket for 20-30+ years.

parklane1 · Oct 29, 2013

CowInAComa said:
But people complain that about the atmosphere and point to clubs like Dortmund who have a stand bouncing in unison and waving banners/flags blah blah. Can you see a stadium filled predominantly of 50/60 year old fellas ever doing that? Seriously?

Realistically lifelong season tickets are going to create that sort of issue.

Obviously football is a game for every age and stadiums have always had the life long guys turning up, but its going to be a bigger problem in the future as people hold onto a season ticket for 20-30+ years.

I can not see the sense in compering the English atmosphere to that in Germany or anywhere else, i have travelled with Spurs in Europe during the 70's, 80's and its always been the same.

English fans very rarely get up for games like the Germans, Dutch etc. Its the way it is.

rez9000 · Oct 29, 2013

CowInAComa said:
That's the biggest load of shit I'll read all day.

What, don't you review before you post?

CowInAComa · Oct 29, 2013

rez9000 said:
What, don't you review before you post?

booooooommmmmmmm.

floored me.

shelfboy68 · Oct 29, 2013

[I'mote="CowInAComa, post: 3672042, member: 23627"]But people complain that about the atmosphere and point to clubs like Dortmund who have a stand bouncing in unison and waving banners/flags blah blah. Can you see a stadium filled predominantly of 50/60 year old fellas ever doing that? Seriously?

Realistically lifelong season tickets are going to create that sort of issue.

Obviously football is a game for every age and stadiums have always had the life long guys turning up, but its going to be a bigger problem in the future as people hold onto a season ticket for 20-30+ years.[/quote]

I'm still waiting for my season ticket and hope I get a chance when we finally build the new stadium and I'm almost 46 so I hope to keep it until I pass on to the other side.

M.I.B. · Oct 29, 2013

shelfboy68 said:
[I'mote="CowInAComa, post: 3672042, member: 23627"]But people complain that about the atmosphere and point to clubs like Dortmund who have a stand bouncing in unison and waving banners/flags blah blah. Can you see a stadium filled predominantly of 50/60 year old fellas ever doing that? Seriously?

Realistically lifelong season tickets are going to create that sort of issue.

Obviously football is a game for every age and stadiums have always had the life long guys turning up, but its going to be a bigger problem in the future as people hold onto a season ticket for 20-30+ years.

I'm still waiting for my season ticket and hope I get a chance when we finally build the new stadium and I'm almost 46 so I hope to keep it until I pass on to the other side.[/quote]

You're going to Arsenal?

shelfboy68 · Oct 29, 2013

chance.I.B. said:
I'm still waiting for my season ticket and hope I get a chance when we finally build the new stadium and I'm almost 46 so I hope to keep it until I pass on to the other side.

You're going to Arsenal?[/quote]
Lol no chance I wouldn't even drive past it.

The Apprentice · Oct 29, 2013

KingKay said:
Do we want to be the team that plays entertaining football for the neutral and lose games 4-3, or do we want to be the team that is more successful and edges games 1-0?

United have played average football for the last 10-15 years yet look at the amount they've won. Give me 1-0's and success any day.

If you genuinely believe United have played average football for the last 15 years, then I am flabbergasted.

Ossie'sAardvark · Oct 29, 2013

parklane1 said:
Not at all, i would be lost without it and i still sing at my age. The problem is not down to older guys going to games, a lot of it is down to those who " i want it and i want it now" sign of the times and the age we live in.

My comment wasn't a swipe at older supporters, I know they have a singsong .I'm glad we appeal to all ages, Young people make more noise than the old...Fact. It wasn't my info, but it made me think a bit.

Ossie'sAardvark · Oct 29, 2013

The Apprentice said:
If you genuinely believe United have played average football for the last 15 years, then I am flabbergasted.

I took it to mean "were still winning games" which is a positive.

chrissivad · Oct 29, 2013

Ossie'sAardvark said:
My comment wasn't a swipe at older supporters, I know they have a singsong .I'm glad we appeal to all ages, Young people make more noise than the old...Fact. It wasn't my info, but it made me think a bit.

is there anything to back up this 'fact'?

Ossie'sAardvark · Oct 29, 2013

chrissivad said:
is there anything to back up this 'fact'?

Go into an OAP home have a listen. Go stand near a school playground have a listen. Assuming you're not deaf or arrested it will become clear.

chrissivad · Oct 29, 2013

Ossie'sAardvark said:
Go into a OAP home have a listen. Go stand near a school playground have a listen. Assuming you're not deaf or arrested it will become clear.

that's your fact!?

What relevance does that have to the people in the ground?

riggi · Oct 29, 2013

Ossie'sAardvark said:
Go into a OAP home have a listen. Go stand near a school playground have a listen. Assuming you're not deaf or arrested it will become clear.

Seems legit.

0-Tibsy-0 · Oct 29, 2013

CowInAComa said:
But people complain that about the atmosphere and point to clubs like Dortmund who have a stand bouncing in unison and waving banners/flags blah blah. Can you see a stadium filled predominantly of 50/60 year old fellas ever doing that? Seriously?

Realistically lifelong season tickets are going to create that sort of issue.

Obviously football is a game for every age and stadiums have always had the life long guys turning up, but its going to be a bigger problem in the future as people hold onto a season ticket for 20-30+ years.

Older fans may contribute to the lack of atmosphere, but more importantly these are not the fans that are creating a negative, poisonous, detrimental atmosphere. And it those that are the real problem. The main issue for me are the streams of abuse, moaning and criticism.

Ossie'sAardvark · Oct 29, 2013

chrissivad said:
that's your fact!?

What relevance does that have to the people in the ground?

What relevance do you think it has?

chrissivad · Oct 29, 2013

Ossie'sAardvark said:
What relevance do you think it has?

so you cant answer the question, or provide any facts.

Thanks

playboypaul · Oct 29, 2013

dimiSpur said:
Well I was there when we played them last season and they didn't sing ANY songs. Literally none. I think they sang once towards the end when they pulled one back and got the sarcastic cheers.

I think you are getting all the "Oh When The..." confused my friend. The Saints fans sang their 'saints' version a hell of a lot

riggi said:
I pay my money... Fuck off.

I think some here missed the fact that you are saying that ironically.

riggi · Oct 29, 2013

playboypaul said:
I think you are getting all the "Oh When The..." confused my friend. The Saints fans sang their 'saints' version a hell of a lot

I think some here missed the fact that you are saying that ironically.

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