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NEVILLEB

NEVILLEB

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Levy has repeated his Juande Ramos experiment with the same results.

Sack a manager who has been doing well.
Bring in a foreign coach
Bring in a Director of Football
Sell your star player around deadline day
Don't really do any transfer activity for 3 years and then sign all your players in one transfer window.

He's a genius
 
rez9000

rez9000

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Mediocrates said:
This is bullshit. He did have the chance to do that, he decided instead to buy Crouch, Parker and William Gallas. We could have had Suarez but he said he was too like Rafa, we could have had Negredo (yes, that guy who just destroyed us) or Huntelaar that summer but he decided on Crouch. Don't sit there and say he didn't get given anu funds, he spunked away a decent chunk on players at Spurs for very little return. Which of 'Arry's signings gained in value at Spurs? Or were progressive signings in any way? Defoe and Keane I don't even need to mention, but Palacios, Bassong, Kranjcar, Parker, Crouch, Pienaar. None of them improved us in anything more than a short term sort of way, and none of them retained value. The only one that bucks the trend is Van der Vaart, and that was a Levy signing if ever I saw one.

He also showed an unbelievable lack of respect for the club by creating an open dialogue with the media in the midst of our potential tilt at the title, on how lovely it would be to be England manager. We lost our focus and imploded, which I struggle to believe wasn't linked to his actions during that final quarter of the season, his pillow kissing session with Jim White. Oh, and he then said on live fucking television that he hadn't been offered a new deal by Levy and was waiting to hear from him. Unprofessional doesn't come close to summing it up The man has his strengths certainly, players play for him and he encourages expression on the football pitch. These are all good things. But he is woefully ill-equipped to manage a top side, and it is rubbish to suggest he wasn't given the opportunity to change that suspicion at Spurs. He blew it.
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Bang on. What the 'Arry Love Brigade don't like being asked is: if he's that good, why is he managing QPR?
 
markieboy

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Stand by AVB Levy for fucks sake. For once in your dwarfling bald headed fucking life, stand by the man you picked and see it through. See it through as see where it takes us. Because the net result so far hasn't been all that fucking great.

I think today i'm about as close as i've ever been to throwing SC's rules away and ****ing a few people right off. I still haven't ruled it out. But passions run high after a humiliation like this so lets see what a cup of coffee and twenty minutes kicking Mrs A&C up the chuff brings. Probably the police and a stern look from the mother in law.[/quote]

Yes but you must also remember that Levy also picked the likes of Santini,Jol,Ramos,Redknapp and now AVB.
You have to kiss a lot of frogs to find your prince.
AVB IS A FROG and unfortunately for us,he will always be one.
 
M

Mullers

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markieboy said:
Yes but you must also remember that Levy also picked the likes of Santini,Jol,Ramos,Redknapp and now AVB.
You have to kiss a lot of frogs to find your prince.
AVB IS A FROG and unfortunately for us,he will always be one.
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Which one is the prince then? he's sacked them all.
 
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shelfboy68

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NEVILLEB said:
Levy has repeated his Juande Ramos experiment with the same results.

Sack a manager who has been doing well.
Bring in a foreign coach
Bring in a Director of Football
Sell your star player around deadline day
Don't really do any transfer activity for 3 years and then sign all your players in one transfer window.

He's a genius
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Problem as well with this experiment is levy thought he was being clever getting a young manager who he and his committee could bully into excepting players they want to fit into the side and sell.

But what they haven't realised is that we are not a league one or two club which can gamble on such inexperience in a manager due to our profile and current league position in recent years it's too cut thoat at the top one bad season and someone else profits.

We are a shambles of a side who are clearing lacking in confidence and direction and avb is not the man to dig us out of the shit we are in.

so mr levy over to you.
 
markieboy

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Mullers said:
Which one is the prince then? he's sacked them all.
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He hasn't found his prince yet....they were all frogs.

Is Santini still in football,Ramos is in the Ukraine,Redknapp is in the Championship and Jol is about 2 games away from the sack at Fulham.
These guys are not good managers.
 
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Spurs_Bear

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felmani26 said:
You can't have the level of player turnover like we have in every department of the pitch bar goalkeeper and not expect an indeterminate period of transition - be it bedding the new players into a system or tinkering with the previous years formation to suit.

The summer arrivals have all clearly failed to adjust quickly to the setup and more worrying is a coach who now it would appear not even know what system is best, let alone what his best 11 is.

It's not your typical 'Jacques Santini/Frank Arnesen' transitional period with a new man at the helm but it is one nevertheless.
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You can if you instigate it. We are where we are out of choice. I didn't accept last year as a transition and this year certainly isn't mate. It's too many excuses.
 
Archibald&Crooks

Archibald&Crooks

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Mullers said:
But you're still going to give him time right? He's had 13 years already I think, so wait another 13 years?
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He's teflon. Any criticism is met with 'yes but' a phrase which is seemingly not considered valid when standing up for any one of our managers. There's always some reason why Levy shouldn't take his share of any stick but never one when the latest manager comes under fire.

Levy could hire and fire a manager every six months and some people wouldn't give a shit. They could come home and find him sunk to the nuts up their mrs, whilst ramming a fucking great aubergine up her bum with two eunuchs polishing his head with a jaycloth and it'd be her fault for being such a two bob slut.
 
Dr Know

Dr Know

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I don't get all this support for Harry. He shot himself in the foot and Levy took him out. I agree, we played some of the best football I've seen Spurs play under Harry. I will always be grateful for that but Harry gambled and lost, not only his job but the respect of some of the fans including myself.

I will always be grateful for what he done but that's about as far as it goes.
 
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Archibald&Crooks said:
He's teflon. Any criticism is met with 'yes but' a phrase which is seemingly not considered valid when standing up for any one of our managers. There's always some reason why Levy shouldn't take his share of any stick but never one when the latest manager comes under fire.

Levy could hire and fire a manager every six months and some people wouldn't give a shit. They could come home and find him sunk to the nuts up their mrs, whilst ramming a fucking great aubergine up her bum with two eunuchs polishing his head with a jaycloth and it'd be her fault for being such a two bob slut.
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Six weeks, six days, six hours, six minutes or six seconds I still think there are always going to be people who won't criticize him.

I've never seen anything like it, except in religious cults.
 
Mr Pink

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Archibald&Crooks said:
He's teflon. Any criticism is met with 'yes but' a phrase which is seemingly not considered valid when standing up for any one of our managers. There's always some reason why Levy shouldn't take his share of any stick but never one when the latest manager comes under fire.

Levy could hire and fire a manager every six months and some people wouldn't give a shit. They could come home and find him sunk to the nuts up their mrs, whilst ramming a fucking great aubergine up her bum with two eunuchs polishing his head with a jaycloth and it'd be her fault for being such a two bob slut.
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But Levy is our leader :)
 
Jody

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This place is like a car crash. You know you shouldn't come in here and look sometimes but it's impossible to resist
:woot:
 
Spurger King

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Mullers said:
Six weeks, six days, six hours, six minutes or six seconds I still think there are always going to be people who won't criticize him.

I've never seen anything like it, except in religious cults.
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To be fair, Levy does have a bit of a cult-leader look about him.
 
wiggo24

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Mediocrates said:
This is bullshit. He did have the chance to do that, he decided instead to buy Crouch, Parker and William Gallas. We could have had Suarez but he said he was too like Rafa, we could have had Negredo (yes, that guy who just destroyed us) or Huntelaar that summer but he decided on Crouch. Don't sit there and say he didn't get given anu funds, he spunked away a decent chunk on players at Spurs for very little return. Which of 'Arry's signings gained in value at Spurs? Or were progressive signings in any way? Defoe and Keane I don't even need to mention, but Palacios, Bassong, Kranjcar, Parker, Crouch, Pienaar. None of them improved us in anything more than a short term sort of way, and none of them retained value. The only one that bucks the trend is Van der Vaart, and that was a Levy signing if ever I saw one.

He also showed an unbelievable lack of respect for the club by creating an open dialogue with the media in the midst of our potential tilt at the title, on how lovely it would be to be England manager. We lost our focus and imploded, which I struggle to believe wasn't linked to his actions during that final quarter of the season, his pillow kissing session with Jim White. Oh, and he then said on live fucking television that he hadn't been offered a new deal by Levy and was waiting to hear from him. Unprofessional doesn't come close to summing it up The man has his strengths certainly, players play for him and he encourages expression on the football pitch. These are all good things. But he is woefully ill-equipped to manage a top side, and it is rubbish to suggest he wasn't given the opportunity to change that suspicion at Spurs. He blew it.
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Absolutely spot on. Couldn't have said it better myself. Harry did what was expected of him with a brilliant team with some world class players. They got us in the top 4, not Harry. He just to them to "go and run around a bit", and becuase the likes of Bale, Modric and VDV were so talented, they succeeded.

With this squad, which is probably worse than the one he had, certainly offensively, he'd be shite. Why do you think he's managing QPR in the Cahmpionship? Brilliant lower league manager, not a big team manager though.
 
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