Chris12
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how do you rewatch it?
Ratings V Fulham
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Lloris- 9: Made some top class reflex stops and another day Berbatov would of scored 1-2
Walker- 7 Great energy down the right, starting to hit some form
Dawson- 5 Battled well and you could see his leadership qualities out there, poor on the ball though, looking forward to Kaboul getting back to his best and Daws hitting the bench.
Chiriches-8 Looked solid, amazing tekkers for his goal.
Vertonghen 6- Struggled both defensively and in an attacking sense.
Capoue- 5- Looked cumbersome and out fought from small guys a few times, he will come good in the new year.
Sandro- 7- Good tell he was really trying to up the tempo in the midfield but it's not his natural game. Did well though
Paulinho- 6- Was okay, expected more from him so far though.
Lennon- 6.5 Dangerous on the right, ineffective on the left. Deserves his place in the side when on the right.
Lamela- 5 Poor first half, poor touches and passes. Second half he gave it away less, was disappointing though. Do feel many guys on here, due to willing him to do well, are seeing his performances through rose tinted glasses.
Defoe- 5 As always struggles on his own up top, that said he looked more dangerous up there than Soldado has in most games.
Holtby- 8 Tried to get the tempo up when he came on, great goal.
Chadli- Did he do anything? AVB clearly rates and trusts him.
Townsend- Tried to get on the ball, wish he would move the ball quicker, he doesn't need to run with/try and skin ppl every time he has the ball.
AVB-4: Starting Sandro and Capeou? Didn't need to do that, especially how slow and ponderous our build up has been to date. Thought Lamela should of come off earlier and personally would of put 2 up top at some stage. The long range worldies ARE MASSIVELY PAPERING OVER THE CRACKS.
CHANGE IN FORMATION NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Walker- 7 Great energy down the right, starting to hit some form
Dawson- 5 Battled well and you could see his leadership qualities out there, poor on the ball though, looking forward to Kaboul getting back to his best and Daws hitting the bench.
Chiriches-8 Looked solid, amazing tekkers for his goal.
Vertonghen 6- Struggled both defensively and in an attacking sense.
Capoue- 5- Looked cumbersome and out fought from small guys a few times, he will come good in the new year.
Sandro- 7- Good tell he was really trying to up the tempo in the midfield but it's not his natural game. Did well though
Paulinho- 6- Was okay, expected more from him so far though.
Lennon- 6.5 Dangerous on the right, ineffective on the left. Deserves his place in the side when on the right.
Lamela- 5 Poor first half, poor touches and passes. Second half he gave it away less, was disappointing though. Do feel many guys on here, due to willing him to do well, are seeing his performances through rose tinted glasses.
Defoe- 5 As always struggles on his own up top, that said he looked more dangerous up there than Soldado has in most games.
Holtby- 8 Tried to get the tempo up when he came on, great goal.
Chadli- Did he do anything? AVB clearly rates and trusts him.
Townsend- Tried to get on the ball, wish he would move the ball quicker, he doesn't need to run with/try and skin ppl every time he has the ball.
AVB-4: Starting Sandro and Capeou? Didn't need to do that, especially how slow and ponderous our build up has been to date. Thought Lamela should of come off earlier and personally would of put 2 up top at some stage. The long range worldies ARE MASSIVELY PAPERING OVER THE CRACKS.
CHANGE IN FORMATION NEEDED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alfieconnman
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I always vote but rarely post on this thread. It is always interesting (amusing?) to see some of the variations in points awarded to individual players by posters which often clearly reflect their feelings about the player generally rather than an accurate assessment of their actual performance in the match. Daws has come in for particular negative attention recently. My feelings about him are ambivalent - he always gives heart and soul and never shirks a hard challenge but does suffer badly from his lack of pace. However, his situation is not helped by the frequent total absence of any support from Walker. I'm not anti-Walker and readily agree that he adds a strong attacking benefit but time and time again in the match last night Fulham were launching attacks down their left wing and Walker was nowhere to be seen. As a consequence Daws is left without much, if any, support on the RHS. This is not an excuse for his other frailties, merely an observation.
Blake Griffin
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i see double standards defoe is in full flow, soldado puts in that performance and it's 7s all round.
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Really ?
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markieboy
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As a side note I really think Paulinho was just as culpable as Dawson for the balls up that led to their goal.
There are a few times every game when he just isn't strong enough or determined enough to make sure he gets/keeps the ball instead of going down easily looking for the referee to save him.
For him to really be a very good player at this level he needs to work on being a second or two quicker when the ball comes to him and do a bit of work with weights to beef up a bit.
He gets himself into really good positions in and around the box and once the goals start flowing for him,I really think he will go on to get plenty for us.
There are a few times every game when he just isn't strong enough or determined enough to make sure he gets/keeps the ball instead of going down easily looking for the referee to save him.
For him to really be a very good player at this level he needs to work on being a second or two quicker when the ball comes to him and do a bit of work with weights to beef up a bit.
He gets himself into really good positions in and around the box and once the goals start flowing for him,I really think he will go on to get plenty for us.
davidmatzdorf
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Lloris 8.5 best goalkeeper in the league
Walker 7.5 excellent all-round game
Dawson 6 other than the crap pass that set up Fulham's goal, he played OK
Chiriches 8 we're going to have to put up with the occasional defensive aberration stemming from over-confidence, but he's a class act and looks increasingly comfortable in the Premiership
Vertonghen 6
Sandro 6 half of a double pivot that didn't do what it was supposed to do
Capoue 5.5 amazingly, got bustled off the ball by Fulham's midfielders
Paulinho 6 good performance let down by bad finishing
Lennon 6.5 almost back to his full-fitness form
Lamela 5.5 I'm not seeing what many others saw last night - most of the time, he still got knocked off the ball before he could do anything useful with it - Lamela sets off on all sorts of enterprising runs, but he almost never gets to deliver the ball
Defoe 6.5 played much better than people seem to think, including two genuinely creative passes in the first half - got into good positions, but the ball never really came in, at least not accurately
Holtby 7.5 great goal, good energy and running in an otherwise unstructured midfield lacking a DM
Chadli 6
Townsend 6
Walker 7.5 excellent all-round game
Dawson 6 other than the crap pass that set up Fulham's goal, he played OK
Chiriches 8 we're going to have to put up with the occasional defensive aberration stemming from over-confidence, but he's a class act and looks increasingly comfortable in the Premiership
Vertonghen 6
Sandro 6 half of a double pivot that didn't do what it was supposed to do
Capoue 5.5 amazingly, got bustled off the ball by Fulham's midfielders
Paulinho 6 good performance let down by bad finishing
Lennon 6.5 almost back to his full-fitness form
Lamela 5.5 I'm not seeing what many others saw last night - most of the time, he still got knocked off the ball before he could do anything useful with it - Lamela sets off on all sorts of enterprising runs, but he almost never gets to deliver the ball
Defoe 6.5 played much better than people seem to think, including two genuinely creative passes in the first half - got into good positions, but the ball never really came in, at least not accurately
Holtby 7.5 great goal, good energy and running in an otherwise unstructured midfield lacking a DM
Chadli 6
Townsend 6
Coyboy
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Hardly the same as childish insults is it?
For his faults, Defoe has scored over 100 goals for us and deserves more respect.
Very true, the comments about Defoe in this thread are very myopic.
He created 2 good chances, pulled a good save from Stekelenberg and got away 1 on 1 where he probably should have scored, the rest of his game was ok, not great not bad.
How many times this season could we summarise Soldado like that?
Personally I prefer Soldado but there's so little between what either of them are currently doing it's bizarre that one is slaughtered and one is in the main defended.
Gb160
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9 minutes 40 seconds ....
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jezz
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When you watch this, you see just how many chances we created.
markieboy
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Yeah and you can also see how many Fulham created too.
jonathanhotspur
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Thanks.
I've downloaded the entire second half but I can't get the fucking thing to play. Can anybody tell me what I need to download? I think it's some kind of VLC player.
Gb160
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Spurs 1961
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Paulinho is a key player for us since he is the only one who really links the team. But I think many people are correct, he needs a rest. Remember he not only plays every time for us but plays all the games for Brazil and travels thousands of miles with them as well.
jezz
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Yes its the EPL other teams are going to create chances thats how it works.
Im just glad were creating chances, all thats left is to start scoring them.
Bus-Conductor
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I agree about the movement, it's something that needs working on, although I thought generally Lamela was better than some and has shown in other games a willingness to make himself available. (I'm sure in the last euro game he saw the ball about 60 times). His off ball movement was excellent in that game.
Defoe is one of the worst players in the league for this. His movement is so unimaginative and selfish, even for a a player of his type. Lennon's movement off the ball improved a little under AVB but is still pretty poor.
I think this is something that can be helped with coaching for sure, but a bit of intelligence goes a long way. Cleverer players just process what's happening better and react accordingly, and quicker.
I think AVB needs to address it, but I'm not sure how much smarter you can make some of the players we have.
mpickard2087
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Yeah I wasn't singling out Lamela especially, it was just one example at the forefront of my mind and one that was easily explainable. He looks the most intelligent with his play and movement so far, others just need to get used to how he plays and to get on the same wavelength.
I'd agree its a mix of coaching and the individual themselves. Right now we lack a bit of both in my opinion in key areas.
markieboy
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I hope so but a rejuvenated Sunderland will also create plenty of chances if we play like this.
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