Newcastle Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

spursfan77 · May 15, 2016

THFCSPURS19 said:
Spurs manager Mauricio Pochettino: "First of all I would like to apologise to our fans, I think they don’t deserve all that happened today on the pitch and I apologise. It was a shame and diffcult to understand

"In the last couple of weeks when you do not play with 100 per cent it is impossible to win games and after Chelsea something happened. We cannot manage games in the right way.

"I am very disappointed because our fans don’t deserve it, it is difficult to go tonight and see my boys and my wife. I think it is unbelievable and we are very disappointed.

"We had the possibility to stay second and how we lost and how we gave to the opponent that is relegated, in the first and second half, they score three goals with 10 players it is the worst day as a manager and I feel very disappointed. We need to be sure that never happens again and need to improve our mentality. We were on holiday and that is the reality."

Basically the same as timmy's "some will have forgotten about it by the time they are on the motorway" speech. Another manager having to say the same thing to our fans about the mentality of our players.

Hazardousman · May 15, 2016

WiganSpur said:
This seems like an unpopular opinion, but I partially agree. There is the potential for this to have a devastating long-term impact on the club. I can't help but feel as though we are back to square one a little bit with this performance today.

The club's bottler mentality has reared its ugly head again and it doesn't seem as though we will ever shake it off.

That's the issue, in a season which fans and pundits consider our best in the leagues history not only have we still not beaten our best points total and still not finished above Arsenal but we have somehow managed to also revert back to the team of bottlejobs which we thought had been solved throughout this season.

It shows a sign of regression, that's the problem, we are literally back to square one and if we aren't capable of beating our best points total after being in a two horse race for the title and still managing to finish third that just makes me believe we will never achieve it, we have a losers mentality deeply imbedded and I am not sure we are ever going to be able to shift it, I hope I am wrong and next season we come out like a team possessed but you know, it's spurs and for lack of a better word, we truly are spursy.

whitelanefever · May 15, 2016

Stavrogin said:
I disagree somewhat. The Villas Boas era really did seem to dent enthusiasm and altered a lot of people's relationship with the game. It seemed we were getting over that and regaining some kind of character.
Most peope will start feeling the positivity again when we make a new signing etc. But some, who were wavering, will likely be done. We've been on an upswing for a long time now but at the same time our hopes have been repeatedly crushed in cruel ways.

Feck the waverers you either love your club or not.. If you do.. it's about accepting the reality of what we are & the emotions that go with it.. I'm furious at the moment & rightly so I think.. At the end of it all it's only football & there are more important things in life.. If disappointment was a reason to walk away I'd of done it years ago.. A&C is right the anger will waiver & in time we will laugh at ourselves.. if we didn't we'd go insane.. what else can we do.. only fair-weather fans walk away.

CowInAComa · May 15, 2016

rossdapep said:
The end of this season has been absolutely awful and t

There's an easy response to this. Ask them what were their club's required goal for the season? - unless they are Leicester every single one of them has failed. Now ask, what was Spurs' main goal for the season - to finish in a champions league place and show progress, right? Have we achieved that? Yes!

Whilst it's painful and difficult to ignore the fact we blew it today, we have still achieved much more than everyone else, other than Leicester. I'm still going to respond in a positive manner, no matter what is thrown at me because no other fan will be happy with their season.

Thats a nice and logical response. But football fans dont give a fuck about such things, they will be laughing long and hard even if they finished 10th. Because football.

rossdapep · May 15, 2016

Levy really needs to deliver this summer. The weaknesses have been all there for us to see in these past few games, sign some mentally tough players, let's have a bit of variation and more competition for places. To capitulate from missing just two players is a little bit scary.

spurs-r-us · May 15, 2016

THFCSPURS19 said:
"In the last couple of weeks when you do not play with 100 per cent it is impossible to win games and after Chelsea something happened. We cannot manage games in the right way.

Good fucking grief. "Something happened"? I'm a big fan of his, but considering the supposed strength of his man management - especially in light of the fact that his game plan is pushing players until they run out of rudder - he should know exactly what happened.

I'm thinking I'll hold fire until next season. It really might all turn sour.

Bobbins · May 15, 2016

alfie103 said:
I wouldn't say the quality of this league has got lower. I just think the top teams have been poorer but the sides at the bottom have got a lot better and therefore it is much more competitive. Arsenal finished second and lost 7 games, the sides at the bottom can afford much better players than they could before.

Except that the sides at the bottom have been shit. Aston Villa have been one of the worst sides ever. Newcastle and Sunderland have been a joke until the last couple of months. Norwich can't even win a game when they go ahead 3 times. Palace took 13 games before they got a win in 2016.

The bottom has been shit, as shown by the fact that they didn't get any more points in the relegation zone than clubs who go down usually do. The difference is Chelsea were shit, and all the top teams lost s few more and drew a lot more than they usually do.

The quality has got lower because the teams that represent real quality, the teams at the top, have been shit.

TheLionKing · May 15, 2016

Sandros Shiny Head said:
Well at least Aguero and Vardy didnt score

I would rather they did to be honest. Kane needs to learn to stop playing for himself but for the team.
His greediness at times has cost us points (just 1 assist all season).
Don't mind him shooting when theres nothing else on but not when there are teammates in far better positions.
For some reason he's failing to understand that the occasional pass would make him less predictable and harder to defend against. Poch needs to get that overly selfish streak he's developed out of him for next season.

alfie103 · May 15, 2016

Hazardousman said:
Oh please do fuck off, I just watched us get slapped 5-1 by a relegated 10 man Newcastle if I am overreacting I think I am entitled to it, stop trying to be the happy clapper police, you may not be pissed off but I am.

I am annoyed by the result but the way you are going on, you would have thought we had been struggling relegation, the players will forget about this result and so will the fans. You need to grow up especially after the rubbish you posted about the leicester players being drugged without a shred of evidence.

Joeyboey · May 15, 2016

I was pretty inconsolable but Poch's post match comments were honest, fairly brutal and very human.

I'm not happy, none of us are, but I'm pleased to have him as our manager.

We've got the youngest squad in the league and as a result have ended up with the steepest learning curve.

If there's a silver lining to any of this - its a reminder that despite finishing 3rd, we desperately need to improve our squad this summer. Would rather receive a hammering now than on Sept 1st...

JaySpur · May 15, 2016

Forget what I said back on page 3, which seems like a lifetime ago already, we have a ton of work to do over the summer to arrest the failings at the end of this season so that they don't happen again.

Lessons need to be learnt. Boys need to grow up into men..now, right now.

We've achieved a great deal but not as much as we realistically could have. It would be easy to be angry or annoyed right now, but I'm just gutted for those that travelled this, and every week.

Hazardousman · May 15, 2016

alfie103 said:
I am annoyed by the result but the way you are going on, you would have thought we had been struggling relegation, the players will forget about this result and so will the fans. You need to grow up especially after the rubbish you posted about the leicester players being drugged without a shred of evidence.

That's your problem with me, agenda driven nonsense, get the stick out of your arse, it's my opinion that doping exists in this league, either deal with it or look the other way.

Mr Pink · May 15, 2016

Hazardousman said:
I don't think it is mate, you may be right but normally results like this have a long term impact and we haven't been playing well for weeks, our mentality is not as strong as we thought and I imagine Poch is probably thinking the same right now.

We bashed Stoke and then we struggled to break down a dogged West Brom, we were still bang in the title race at that point. Played well against Chelsea first half and then it was over - and we havn't been able to recover our form since then, probably because of physical and mental fatigue. We've tired a bit and when you couple that with a bit of deflation after Chelsea its not massively surprising what's happened. Obviously today was, but we just have to get over it. Also need to remember we're a young group and have come a long way.

Today fucking hurt, but the way I'll handle any mocking will be simply to agree that we did fuck it up but also point out that we played some fantastic stuff this season and a have great future under Pochettino to be excited about, the new stadium and CL football next season.

nedley · May 15, 2016

Joeyboey said:
I was pretty inconsolable but Poch's post match comments were honest, fairly brutal and very human.

I'm not happy, none of us are, but I'm pleased to have him as our manager.

We've got the youngest squad in the league and as a result have ended up with the steepest learning curve.

If there's a silver lining to any of this - its a reminder that despite finishing 3rd, we desperately need to improve our squad this summer. Would rather receive a hammering now than on Sept 1st...

Great post.

JaySpur · May 15, 2016

Joeyboey said:
I was pretty inconsolable but Poch's post match comments were honest, fairly brutal and very human.

I'm not happy, none of us are, but I'm pleased to have him as our manager.

We've got the youngest squad in the league and as a result have ended up with the steepest learning curve.

If there's a silver lining to any of this - its a reminder that despite finishing 3rd, we desperately need to improve our squad this summer. Would rather receive a hammering now than on Sept 1st...

What did he say? Haven't heard his post match

spurs-r-us · May 15, 2016

whitelanefever said:
Feck the waverers you either love your club or not.. If you do.. it's about accepting the reality of what we are & the emotions that go with it.. I'm furious at the moment & rightly so I think.. At the end of it all it's only football & there are more important things in life.. If disappointment was a reason to walk away I'd of done it years ago.. A&C is right the anger will waiver & in time we will laugh at ourselves.. if we didn't we'd go insane.. what else can we do.. only fair-weather fans walk away.

I'm oddly comfortable with the position we're in. The only time I ever truly believed that we might win the title was the week before West Ham and Arsenal. We bottled both matches. Being a Spurs fan is all about disappointment, I feel like I've kind of accepted that.

rossdapep · May 15, 2016

CowInAComa said:
Thats a nice and logical response. But football fans dont give a fuck about such things, they will be laughing long and hard even if they finished 10th. Because football.

I know what you mean. When you are mostly dealing with idiots who only talk about their club when they win something it's better to say this and leave the discussion at that. I'm not the gloating type, however you still manage to attract arseholes who like to wind you up, so I find a logical response is best, if it doesn't work then you know they are looking for a bite so it's best to just change subject.

shoggy33 · May 15, 2016

It's been a good season, but it is now painfully clear that we need to invest this summer. An experienced midfielder, a creative attacker to compete with Eriksen (for me he doesn't do enough), and a striker are absolutely vital if we are gunna compete in the league and CL.

2bearis2do · May 15, 2016

Your quote @If it isn't I will eat my words gladly but results like today normally have huge consequences, something doesn't seem right, our players just don't look motivated anymore, what has changed? Is it simply because we lost Dembele and Alli? Or is it something more than that...

You're right - but what?
a) The team was knackered? MoPo's high pressing strategy ran out of steam?
b) Losing Dembele and Alli - just shows how good they are and how bad our replacements are?
c) Verts is over-rated and Wimmer is better?

Our best starting eleven are pretty damn good and fluid and exciting - but lose two key parts (Demb,Alli) and we look really average.

I can only hope MoPo sees this and I think he will, it's all very well promoting the youth, but now we have bigger stakes to play for and need to replace much of that youth/homegrown talent with players of the Dembele statue and quality. If we want to compete with the Bayern's, Real's and Leicester's of this world we need a better squad.

We-ve over-achieved this season, no doubt. No one here thought we'd finish 3rd this season. Now we need to capitalise on that, spend the money, do a second round of clearing out the dead-wood and move up to the next level.

sebo_sek · May 15, 2016

The Chelsea draw ripped our hearts out, but it was of our own making.
I think we will only get better, we've got Poch on a 5 year deal, we've got a group of players that can deliver when they've got their heads in the game BUT:
our best attacking MF is 19
Our top scorer is 23
The whole team has an average age of 24?
Take an honest step back and have a look at the big picture.
They are PEOPLE, just people. Despite having a really rubbish run-in we still finished 20 points above last year's champions and 5 points above a CL semi-finalist.
We all wanted it so much, that we've allowed ourselves to forget that this was the first season where we could observe what this team CAN do. Next year we will see them do it from the get go.
We have the enticement of CL and a new stadium being built - players will come.
The future is bright.

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