Summer Transfer Wish List - 2017

bubble07 · Mar 25, 2017

GetSpurredOn said:
I thought the deal was £6m per year for the duration of his stay. I took it that if we sold early, we didn't pay the full amount.

Why would a seller ever agree to that???

mill · Mar 25, 2017

mpickard2087 said:
I'd be surprised if that was the case, but you never know. The Sissoko/Townsend mention was only meant to be a quick example though anyway of an added complexity to transfers and the fees/payments involved.

Yeah I can't say for sure, just something I heard or read

Shadydan · Mar 25, 2017

bubble07 said:
Why would a seller ever agree to that???

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keithtighe93 · Mar 25, 2017

I really like Lanzini. Quality player, impossible to see it happening though.

dondo · Mar 25, 2017

I would be happy if we brought EPL based players in the summer.
Too many times we go for the cheaper imports that take an age to adapt or do not to the English game.
Zaha, Barkley, burnley gray, Leicester gray,Keane/ maguire would be a good list of players to go for imo.

dontcallme · Mar 25, 2017

dondo said:
I would be happy if we brought EPL based players in the summer.
Too many times we go for the cheaper imports that take an age to adapt or do not to the English game.
Zaha, Barkley, burnley gray, Leicester gray,Keane/ maguire would be a good list of players to go for imo.

But then have we not had problems on the flip side of overpaying for Prem players like Bentley, Sissoko and Siggurdsson?

DIEHARD · Mar 25, 2017

I was reading that Chelscum may let Willian go.

I'd definitely go for him fucking **** rejected us but hey he won the league etc so can't begrudge him that

dondo · Mar 25, 2017

dontcallme said:
But then have we not had problems on the flip side of overpaying for Prem players like Bentley, Sissoko and Siggurdsson?

Transfers are always a risk overseas or not. buying players proven in the EPL is less of a risk.
We payed 8m iirc for sig hardly overpaying and he did ok for us imo and I would take him back in a heartbeat

dontcallme · Mar 25, 2017

DIEHARD said:
I was reading that Chelscum may let Willian go.

I'd definitely go for him fucking **** rejected us but hey he won the league etc so can't begrudge him that

Quality player but kept out by the excellent form of Hazard and Pedro. No way Chelsea sell to us and his wage is huge.

dontcallme · Mar 25, 2017

dondo said:
Transfers are always a risk overseas or not. buying players proven in the EPL is less of a risk.
We payed 8m iirc for sig hardly overpaying and he did ok for us imo and I would take him back in a heartbeat

Point with Siggurdsson is when he stepped up a level he wasn't good enough. My feeling is Demerai Gray will be the same.

We have an exceptionally good side that is hard to improve within our budget as well as other factors. We need to look everywhere for the quality we require.

Prem proven really isn't a factor for me.

cliff jones · Mar 25, 2017

dontcallme said:
Point with Siggurdsson is when he stepped up a level he wasn't good enough. My feeling is Demerai Gray will be the same.

We have an exceptionally good side that is hard to improve within our budget as well as other factors. We need to look everywhere for the quality we require.

Prem proven really isn't a factor for me.

We aren't trying to improve the side, first XI, we are trying to sign another CB, and subject to what happens with Lamela, maybe two AMs who can compete with Alli and Eriksen. This is so we can compete twice a week. We have to do better in Europe.

Hopefully whoever comes in will have presence, so he can play point man if H is out.

dontcallme · Mar 25, 2017

cliff jones said:
We aren't trying to improve the side, first XI, we are trying to sign another CB, and subject to what happens with Lamela, maybe two AMs who can compete with Alli and Eriksen. This is so we can compete twice a week. We have to do better in Europe.

Hopefully whoever comes in will have presence, so he can play point man if H is out.

We should always be trying to improve the first side.

dondo · Mar 25, 2017

dontcallme said:
Point with Siggurdsson is when he stepped up a level he wasn't good enough. My feeling is Demerai Gray will be the same.

We have an exceptionally good side that is hard to improve within our budget as well as other factors. We need to look everywhere for the quality we require.

Prem proven really isn't a factor for me.

It's about improving the squad with young and up coming players who have the potential to be 1st teamers as we can't afford the players who would be instant 1st team players.

dondo · Mar 25, 2017

dontcallme said:
We should always be trying to improve the first side.

Yes in a ideal world but how much is that going to cost?

dontcallme · Mar 25, 2017

dondo said:
Yes in a ideal world but how much is that going to cost?

If you look at how much we spent for our current first teamers then answer is the cost isn't the factor. Finding the right players to fit us is.

Kante and Mahrez cost Leicester less than £7m combined. The likes of Lloris, Alderweireld, Vertonghen and Dembele were not young players but didn't break the bank either.

We've seen our attempts at buying £20m+ players hasn't been successful so lets not get stuck thinking it is impossible to improve our first team without making record breaking purchases.

Trying to find squad players better than Davies, Trippier, Dier and Son is not going to be easy or improve us.

LexingtonSpurs · Mar 25, 2017

dontcallme said:
We should always be trying to improve the first side.

Some of that will come with natural improvement of the youngest team in the league. Some will come with competition, and some will come with continuity.

And, we could also buy a player who is better than an exiting player. But this option will be the most expensive and carry the highest risk of short-term and long-term success. Will the player fit in, will he adapt to our style, will he disrupt the personality of the squad, etc.

I think, if we can find that player, at the right price - we should pursue the opportunity. But, you have to balance the man-management that comes from developing younger players - you can't simply cut off their opportunity. If you think a player has maximized his potential, and stands in the way of progress, you move them out. I think we have seen Poch do this with a number of players.

dontcallme · Mar 25, 2017

LexingtonSpurs said:
Some of that will come with natural improvement of the youngest team in the league. Some will come with competition, and some will come with continuity.

And, we could also buy a player who is better than an exiting player. But this option will be the most expensive and carry the highest risk of short-term and long-term success. Will the player fit in, will he adapt to our style, will he disrupt the personality of the squad, etc.

I think, if we can find that player, at the right price - we should pursue the opportunity. But, you have to balance the man-management that comes from developing younger players - you can't simply cut off their opportunity. If you think a player has maximized his potential, and stands in the way of progress, you move them out. I think we have seen Poch do this with a number of players.

Absolutely, I've regularly argued that much of our improvement can come through keeping many of the same players together. This will hopefully improve our team as a unit and the players progressing and improving can also improve the team.

All I am saying is that it is possible to improve the first team and we shouldn't dismiss this like it is mission impossible.

dondo · Mar 25, 2017

dontcallme said:
If you look at how much we spent for our current first teamers then answer is the cost isn't the factor. Finding the right players to fit us is.

Kante and Mahrez cost Leicester less than £7m combined. The likes of Lloris, Alderweireld, Vertonghen and Dembele were not young players but didn't break the bank either.

We've seen our attempts at buying £20m+ players hasn't been successful so lets not get stuck thinking it is impossible to improve our first team without making record breaking purchases.

Trying to find squad players better than Davies, Trippier, Dier and Son is not going to be easy or improve us.

Kante and mahrez walked into an average team at the time, name me a few players under 7m who made such an impact in a established top 4 team in recent times

dontcallme · Mar 25, 2017

dondo said:
Kante and mahrez walked into an average team at the time, name me a few players under 7m who made such an impact in a established top 4 team in recent times

Not under £7m but the players I've mentioned in the post you quoted all cost £15m or less and made relatively instant impacts with us.

am_yisrael_chai · Mar 25, 2017

dondo said:
Kante and mahrez walked into an average team at the time, name me a few players under 7m who made such an impact in a established top 4 team in recent times

Liverpool paid 8m for Coutinho so there are some bargains to be had. Also City paid 6m for Kompany but that was just before they hit the oil jackpot.

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