Summer Transfer Wish List - 2017

Dharmabum · Mar 28, 2017

spurs9 said:
All excellent points, personally I don't think Anderson will go for 40m, I think it will be about 30m. If it was 1 signing between Barkley and Zaha, I would prefer Barkley without a doubt.

If we lose 3 of the 4 you name, then I think signing 2 AMs is necessary but not if we only lose 2, as Poch doesn't rotate enough to justify it.

They play in very different positions so I doubt Pochettino will consider one over the other. Barkley play in a position where Spurs have plenty of quality cover while Spurs lack a player in the mold of Zaha (however, I won't mind Barkley joining Spurs).

lol · Mar 28, 2017

beats1 said:
Did I say he was coming here for the money?

Equally I dont think you will expect him to come here and say I will take a low wage just so that I can work with Pochettino

Also the wages that we will offer and Man City will offer are hugely different. We can offer Barkley 100k a week which is high for us, Man City would offer him around £150k a week which is ok for them

Everton have a good manager who has done well with young talent, in Koeman and he has worked well with him over the past 12 months. If he leaves he will come to us knowing he will have to fight to get in our first 11.

He isn't guaranteed a place in our first 11, I dont see how he would come to us and automatically become 1st choice for england

Unless we go 4231, Barkley isn't starting for us as we only have two spots which are taken by Alli and Eriksen with Son and Lamela waiting behind them

everytime i watch him play, i see a good but immature player. he has a superstar in him but needs the maturity to cut out certain bad habits in order to unlock his true potential. you cant teach a player how to attack but you can coach him to cut out mistakes. poch will be the perfect coach for him. if he comes over i think poch will covert him into AMR or AML primarily and cover as AMC MC.

spurs9 · Mar 28, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
OK, but we are into nuances and degrees of risk now aren't we, and my point was, if neither Fekir nor Barkley are guaranteed first team starters and we pay 30m for Barkley and 100k per week, or 20m for Fekir and 50k per week, what deal is better value ?

If they demand more for Barkley (than the 30m we paid for the PL experienced Sissoko) and Fekir costs a little bit less, then it gets even more interesting doesn't it ?? Risk/reward wise. Isn't that why/how we end up with the Lloris's, Vertonghen's, Alderwierelds, Eriksen's, Dier's. In fact very few of our first team have been bought as experienced PL players (Alderweireld - one season - Wanyama 2, Dembele - all of those originally from overseas) and none of our first team purchased were English with regular PL experience.

Bus-Conductor said:
When it comes to price, we are all making it up, or making educated guesses aren't we? Just as you are making up Anderson's 30m. I was using your estimate of 30m to get the 50% more figure. I really can't see even Aulas getting much more than 20m for Fekir right now, can you ?

If you don't care about value why say to me that's the massive doubt over Fekir ?

Aulas said this last month, so can we stop with the 20m BS.

"World-class players such as Lacazette or Fekir are worth more than 50 million euros (£42m)," he told Bein Sports.

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www....ir-Transfer-News-Lyon-Eden-Hazard-Chelsea/amp

spurs9 · Mar 28, 2017

Dharmabum said:
They play in very different positions so I doubt Pochettino will consider one over the other. Barkley play in a position where Spurs have plenty of quality cover while Spurs lack a player in the mold of Zaha (however, I won't mind Barkley joining Spurs).

They are different style of players but I wouldn't say they necessarily play different positions, although Zaha usually plays wider. The only attributes Zaha has over Barkley IMO, are pace (but Barkley is still quick), agility and dribbling in open spaces, but I think Barkley is slightly better at dribbling in tight spaces, although both can be a bit loose with their dribbling at times.

spurs9 · Mar 28, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
and as even @spurs9 agreed, they are very similar players, with very similar skill sets.

Not really, I said they were "in some ways they are comparable". That being said they are different players e.g. Fekir is more like Alli, in that he does most of his work in and around the area, where as Barkley is more like Eriksen, in that he is involved in the build up more and drops deeper to get involved.

THFCSPURS19 · Mar 28, 2017

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/arse...meet-with-the-agent-of-patrik-schick-tomorrow

Arsenal and Tottenham will meet with the agent of Patrik Schick tomorrow

Tomorrow in London, a series of meetings will take place revolving around Patrik Schick involving Tottenham and Arsenal. The 1996-born Czech striker, top of the wish list for teams in the Premier League, has a release clause with Sampdoria of €25m. Arsene Wenger will attend the meeting tomorrow morning with Schick's agent, Pavel Paska, who then will sit down with Steve Hitchen, a Tottenham scout. €20m is as high a fee as Spurs wish to spend for Schick. Competition for the striker, meanwhile, is fierce both in the Premier League as well as from Inter in Italy.

Bus-Conductor · Mar 28, 2017

Trix said:
Yes but even in there short time in the Prem both Toby and Vic had proved to have settled and adapted no problem.

But that still leaves the Lloris's, Vertonghen's, Eriksen's, Modric's, Berbatov's etc doesn't it. Surely the rule is, there is no rule? I'm not ruling Barkley out because he'd be one of the first English born, PL experienced players we'd signed for this team and I'm sure your not ruling out Fekir because he wouldn't?

Is it crucial that a 23yo adapts immediately?

Dharmabum · Mar 28, 2017

spurs9 said:
They are different style of players but I wouldn't say they necessarily play different positions, although Zaha usually plays wider. The only attributes Zaha has over Barkley IMO, are pace (but Barkley is still quick), agility and dribbling in open spaces, but I think Barkley is slightly better at dribbling in tight spaces, although both can be a bit loose with their dribbling at times.

I will claim they would not compete for the same spot if both would join. And Spurs do need a direct, pacey forward. But yes I would also prefer Barkely over Zaha if it was between those 2. My problem with Zaha though is that he would go missing for a month due to ANC.

Bus-Conductor · Mar 28, 2017

spurs9 said:
Aulas said this last month, so can we stop with the 20m BS.

"World-class players such as Lacazette or Fekir are worth more than 50 million euros (£42m)," he told Bein Sports.

https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www....ir-Transfer-News-Lyon-Eden-Hazard-Chelsea/amp

Aulas says a lot of things. There is no way he thinks Fekir is worth what Lacazette is. But I tell you what, I'll put £5 into sc for every 5m he gets over 25m if you put £20 in if he goes for 25 or less?

spurs9 · Mar 28, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
Aulas says a lot of things. There is no way he thinks Fekir is worth what Lacazette is. But I tell you what, I'll put £5 into sc for every 5m he gets over 25m if you put £20 in if he goes for 25 or less?

No.

spurs9 · Mar 28, 2017

Dharmabum said:
I will claim they would not compete for the same spot if both would join. And Spurs do need a direct, pacey forward. But yes I would also prefer Barkely over Zaha if it was between those 2. My problem with Zaha though is that he would go missing for a month due to ANC.

IMO, in 4-2-3-1, they wouldn't compete for the same spot but in 3-4-2-1, they would. I don't worry about the ANC, it usually means the player only misses 4 to 6 games every two years and in the grand scheme of things that is sod all. The thing that I dislike the most about Zaha, is he seems to dribble for the sake of dribbling, where as Barkley used to be a bit the same (but not as bad) has learnt that it's a means to an end and will play the pass if it is the better option.

spids · Mar 28, 2017

spurs9 said:
I don't worry about the ANC, it usually means the player only misses 4 to 6 games every two years.

FIFA needs to have a word with the African football body and tell them that their tournament should be every 4 years alternating with World Cup, so there is only one international tournament every two years.

Ossie85 · Mar 28, 2017

Looks like Isco is about to renew his contract with RM, so if anybody still had hopes

http://www.sport.es/es/noticias/real-madrid/fin-culebron-isco-5931999

Dharmabum · Mar 28, 2017

spids said:
FIFA needs to have a word with the African football body and tell them that their tournament should be every 4 years alternating with World Cup, so there is only one international tournament every two years.

If they had simply moved the tournament to (football) summer break it would have helped a lot (yes, they would still miss part of the pre-season).

ShaunL84 · Mar 28, 2017

Anyone think Kompany may be worth a shout?

I know he's got injury problems but he's won the PL and we could use him sparingly if he's prepared to be realistic with wages.

Lloris
Walker-Kompany-Toby-Jan-Rose
Wanyama

That would be ideal in Europe away from home.

LukaKranjcar · Mar 28, 2017

If it wasnt for his well documented injury issues and his staggering wages as you say, i'd be well up for Vincent Kompany. Top professional, but hes also City through and through imo.

Dharmabum · Mar 28, 2017

Shadydan said:
at people who want to get rid of Son

There is a clear general consensus among Spurs fans (not just on SC) that Spurs are in dire need of 1, preferably 2, top-quality, pacey, ball-skilled and goal scoring wide forwards (even Pochettino seem very eager to get his hands on 1 or 2 such players).
If Son do fit that bill – i.e. top-notch WF -why then do so many see WF still as priority?
And, again according to general consensus, Son certainly is not of CF material (which is why Pochettino bought Janssen last summer after “testing” Son on several occasions as CF the previous season), which makes him a WF.
Anyway, basically what you and your “supporters” are saying is that there is no need for top-notch WFs as Spurs can't improve upon Son - and that’s fine with me

I am just happy you are not in charge of Spurs' transfers. Right now Son is being kept out of the team by a bunch of CMF.
PS! Son is a likeable character and, of course, I do wish he will turn into a big hit for Spurs.

Shadydan · Mar 28, 2017

Dharmabum said:
There is a clear general consensus among Spurs fans (not just on SC) that Spurs are in dire need of 1, preferably 2, top-quality, pacey, ball-skilled and goal scoring wide forwards (even Pochettino seem very eager to get his hands on 1 or 2 such players).
If Son do fit that bill – i.e. top-notch WF -why then do so many see WF still as priority?
And, again according to general consensus, Son certainly is not of CF material (which is why Pochettino bought Janssen last summer after “testing” Son on several occasions as CF the previous season), which makes him a WF.
Anyway, basically what you and your “supporters” are saying is that there is no for top-notch WFs as Spurs can't improve upon Son - and that’s fine with me I am just happy you are not in charge of Spurs' transfers. Right now Son is being kept out of the team by a bunch of CMF.
PS! Son is a likeable character and, of course, I do wish he will turn into a big hit for Spurs.

Njie, Nkoudou, Sissoko are the reasons why many still think we need a wide goal scoring forward not Son. We don't need to sell a player who will guarantee you 15-20 goals a season who is improving as well. If we do sell him put it this way we're going to struggle to find someone to replace him who will 100% guarantee the same output who we could realistically afford.

Monkey boy · Mar 28, 2017

Shadydan said:
Njie, Nkoudou, Sissoko are the reasons why many still think we need a wide goal scoring forward not Son. We don't need to sell a player who will guarantee you 15-20 goals a season who is improving as well. If we do sell him put it this way we're going to struggle to find someone to replace him who will 100% guarantee the same output who we could realistically afford.

15-20 goals?

Shadydan · Mar 28, 2017

Monkey boy said:
15-20 goals?

Well, around that - he already has 14 this season in all comps.

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