Ex-Player Watch Player Watch: Kyle Walker

titan · May 1, 2017

The Apprentice said:
It was more a question than a statement. Your thoughts?

Not really sure tbh. Last season we were rotating the fb's during the middle third of the season, then stopped around march-april and fatigue definitely showed. So maybe Poch is just trying to ensure that doesnt happen.

But I have heard else where that Walker still has family up North and would like to be closer to them.

Bus-Conductor · May 1, 2017

scat1620 said:
A win over Arsenal to seal our finishing above them in the league, AND Kyle Walker dropped from the side with "he might be leaving" rumours swirling amid the confusion? @Bus-Conductor 's glans is going to be rubbed so raw it will resemble Rudolph The Reindeer's nose.

EDIT - not to mention (how could I forget?!) that Mrs Beece was making croquette potatoes. #prayforBCsknob

Fondant you fucking philistine, fondant!*

*Which is what my balls are right now

Mark_147 · May 1, 2017

JayB said:
False equivalency mate, with Lamela there was absolutely no substance whatsoever to go off of.

With Walker, you have a player who is fit enough to play midweek being dropped for the two biggest matches of the season (the derby was almost certainly the most important match since the League Cup final against Chelsea), plus reports in the media sourced from within City that they have been encouraged in their pursuit of him. Not to mention the sit-down he reportedly had with Poch.

It's absolutely speculative, no question about that, but there's more to make you wonder than with the Lamela situation.

He was rotated not dropped

hutchiniho · May 1, 2017

Even if we have a more than capable back up, I still wouldn't want to lose the best right back in the league.
It could be for family reasons but Would send out a very inconsistent message. And give our media friends a field day under a selling club headline.
If Poch has a new young superstar fullback ready to replace him I would bow to his greater judgment but this summer I'd prefer to add potential starters rather than sell any.

JayB · May 1, 2017

Mark_147 said:
He was rotated not dropped

IMO that's a distinction without a difference when you consider the matches he was "rotated" around. You play your best available XI in semi finals and season-defining derbies.

We haven't exactly had United's level of fixture congestion over the past month, there was enough time between matches to tinker with the rotation and keep both players fresh while keeping Walker in line for the starts his first-choice status would demand.

SargeantMeatCurtains · May 1, 2017

Watch around the 8:00 mark.

Walker is either tearing up a betting slip in a mad tirade or he's exuberantly celebrating our goal.

Anyone agree on the latter? Seems weird for him to do that if he wanted out?

Mark_147 · May 1, 2017

JayB said:
IMO that's a distinction without a difference when you consider the matches he was "rotated" around. You play your best available XI in semi finals and season-defining derbies.

We haven't exactly had United's level of fixture congestion over the past month, there was enough time between matches to tinker with the rotation and keep both players fresh while keeping Walker in line for the starts his first-choice status would demand.

So Chelsea drop Hazard and Costa in this season defining derby/semi final, but when we drop walker all hell breaks loose.

ajspurs · May 1, 2017

Really hope he doesn't want out, I like Tripper but especially when we have Rose it's almost like the two work in conjunction even though they're on separate wings. They both set a good and fast tone when both bombing down the wing.

Him being left out in our recent big matches does seem strange to me though and I do now worry a bit.

mill · May 1, 2017

tiger666 said:
In the same way everyone was convinced something was off about Lamela until nothing was off and he was just injured? Not sure there's anything in this personally.

Was just about to ask if anyone's speculated that he's a gay crack whore

JayB · May 1, 2017

Mark_147 said:
So Chelsea drop Hazard and Costa in this season defining derby/semi final, but when we drop walker all hell breaks loose.

To be fair Hazard came on and basically won them that match. It's one thing for Walker to have been dropped in a cup match, but for him to then turn around and not play in an all-important game in the league a week later is too much of a coincidence for me.

So as not to bore everyone I think I'm going to quit arguing about this, I think I've made my point and admit that it is speculative. I genuinely hope I'm wrong and that there is nothing in it.

Bus-Conductor · May 1, 2017

I think this has little to do with any transfer talk, Walker would not have started against Palace, a massive game, if Poch was trying to ostracise him. It's not like Trippier has had too much football this season, he could easily cope with the run in physically on his own.

As @LexingtonSpurs pointed out, they have been rotating lately anyway, the big difference in the last few weeks has been the Trippier is now being selected for the bigger games, which is a reversal of the previous rotational shifts.

Lets be honest, people saying that Walker is vastly better defensively are talking bollocks, he probably is better, certainly stronger and more experienced in the PL, but as the two last games show, Trippier's been OK, and as Walker showed against Palace, he's still capable of poor games, so the difference isn't vast. It's fairly marginal.

Offensively we know Walker's flawed, and Trippier's ceiling is undoubtedly higher.

If City want to give us 50-60m good luck to him I say, like with Keane's move to Liverpool, thanks for the service, thanks for the pay off. Lets get Iheanacho and Roberts as makeweights too.

piedpiper · May 1, 2017

Poch did the exact same thing last season in the final ten games. He rotated the full backs. Its just Rose being injured prevents him doing it on the left. I don't think there is anything in this.

bubble07 · May 1, 2017

We should swap him for de bruyne

ChristianBaler · May 1, 2017

When asked on twitter regarding the rumours about Eriksen, Toby, and Walker wanting to leave JJ replied with

"Very much doubt it and a broken clock is right twice a day Ffs !!"

Not sure if I can post this in here so mods feel free to move it....

ohtottenham! · May 1, 2017

Bus-Conductor said:
I think this has little to do with any transfer talk, Walker would not have started against Palace, a massive game, if Poch was trying to ostracise him. It's not like Trippier has had too much football this season, he could easily cope with the run in physically on his own.

As @LexingtonSpurs pointed out, they have been rotating lately anyway, the big difference in the last few weeks has been the Trippier is now being selected for the bigger games, which is a reversal of the previous rotational shifts.

Lets be honest, people saying that Walker is vastly better defensively are talking bollocks, he probably is better, certainly stronger and more experienced in the PL, but as the two last games show, Trippier's been OK, and as Walker showed against Palace, he's still capable of poor games, so the difference isn't vast. It's fairly marginal.

Offensively we know Walker's flawed, and Trippier's ceiling is undoubtedly higher.

If City want to give us 50-60m good luck to him I say, like with Keane's move to Liverpool, thanks for the service, thanks for the pay off. Lets get Iheanacho and Roberts as makeweights too.

Walker's been Poch's first choice for key games all season apart from the last week; the most critical week of our season so far. Cup semi against Chelsea, a title-relevant, end-of-season NLD - Trips gets the nod over Walker? There's something going on. Poch's making a statement, but doesn't mean he's "trying to ostracise him".

I don't agree with the "vastly" better description. It's appropriate in a Rose vs Davies comparison, but not with our RBs. I like them both; different players with different strengths/weaknesses.

Walker is stronger defensively. In an attacking sense, his very presence means opposition AMs are pushed further back, because they're wary of his pace. This is especially important when we play those teams who have the weapons to attack. Walker's far more dangerous in transition, purely because of his pace, not because of his distribution.

He doesn't need a killer pass in those situations; he just needs to carry the ball up and find another Spurs shirt in transition. Also, when Rose is on the other flank, oppo midfields and defences are really stretched and vulnerable during those transitions. They have to cope with the movement of an advancing Eriksen, Alli and Kane threatening in different positions. Having two pacy wing backs is a real offensive weapon for us.

Trips is not as quick, so we won't have as many opportunities in transition. His footballing IQ is higher imo; his distribution and crossing is way better, but when we're facing good teams, he's penned back with defensive duties, and doesn't provide Walker's threat in transition. We play a mid and lower table side who are parking the bus, Trippier is a better option.

Don_Felipe · May 1, 2017

Walker came in for Palace - didn't look that good, so Trips got the nod yesterday.... sure there might be something going on, but equally Poch might just be picking the in form player...

glacierSpurs · May 1, 2017

if he leaves, please go to a foreign league..

But not wishing him to leave in any case.. possibly another pre-season to coach his decision-making at the final-third and he has the potential to be one of the best RB in the world IMO.. a learning curve this season, although he is pissing me off sometimes, he is still improving I have to say.. Hope to see him reach his peak here at Spurs..

ajspurs · May 1, 2017

Don_Felipe said:
Walker came in for Palace - didn't look that good, so Trips got the nod yesterday.... sure there might be something going on, but equally Poch might just be picking the in form player...

But that hasn't been the case in previous occasions I don't think. There have been other times where Trippier has performed well enough to warrant a start in the next game and hasn't, like after the recent game against Watford at WHL in which he was brilliant and Walker started the next game against Bournemouth. Or away to Watford earlier in the season where he was also outstanding and Walker then played the next game against Chelsea and so on. To me previously there was a feeling of Trippier can do anything but Walker would play the next game if he was fit but there's a different feeling about it now to me.

And yes Walker was poor against Palace but that's one of the only games of the season he's actually had where you could point out his display for being poor, he's been fantastic for me.

Clark28 · May 1, 2017

The way some people are talking it's as though he's already signed for another club.

He's one of our longest serving players, give him the benefit of the doubt instead of believing the rags or some secondhand itk (how often are either of those ever right?)

Trippier playing cup games is nothing new, neither is Poch deciding to rotate the fullbacks.

$hoguN · May 1, 2017

He is clearly not 100 % fit and sharp. We are also clearly rotating effectively. Nothing to see here

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