Wembley Season Ticket Prices

gregga · May 4, 2017

It'll be interesting to see if 18,000 people actually take up the offer of a season ticket at Wembley.

It they don't, might the club start to get a little panicky?

Don_Felipe · May 4, 2017

gregga said:
It'll be interesting to see if 18,000 people actually take up the offer of a season ticket at Wembley.

It they don't, might the club start to get a little panicky?

Expect to see the "Only way to guarantee your spot in the SpursKop...." adverts

Saoirse · May 4, 2017

nicdic said:
It never was us pushing for 90,000. We were happy with the 50,000 and a few games at 90,000. It was Wembley and Brent Council who wanted all games uncapped.

Are you certain? At the time the council offered a compromise measure of 61.5k (to match the capacity of NWHL), but it was said the club opposed this due to the effect on atmosphere of having circa 10k our of 40k upper tier seats occupied which suggests they were involved - not to mention that we sent Donna Cullen along to the planning meeting. My interpretation was that the club wanted 90k, but Wembley had to apply for it on our behalf as the legal event organisers.

Lighty64 · May 4, 2017

dagraham said:
Not happy. A bit of a piss take if you ask me and not a great way to treat loyal ST holders.

I can't really commit to Wembley for a season, not just because it's crap ( it is), but because a) I go with my Dad who's 70 with a dodgy knee for whom getting squashed on a tube and/or standing outside a station for an hour isn't something he really wants to do and b) I have a young family and going to Wembley turns a 5 hour trip into being out most of the day.

I find myself though in the position that I'm basically forced to get a ST if I want to retain one for the new stadium ( and I think that considering I've been paying through the nose for 20 years even when we were total shit it's the least I could expect).

So I have to effectively pay a retainer for a year to be able to get a ST at the new stadium. Wouldn't be so bad if the prices were reduced, but my prices are going UP. For less games! For something that's not really feasible.

Not only that, but they have no chance to fill the stadium unless they sell on general sale for cheap. Which if they do is ripping me and other ST holders even more ( and if they don't there will be huge areas of empty seats which is going to be detrimental to both the atmosphere and for the team).

Lastly, unless they are planning on ditching StubHub and going back to the old system ( of which there is no evidence whatsoever), then mentioning the fact that if you can't attend you can resell is misleading. StubHub can only be used if it's a sell out, which it most certainly won't be for the majority of games. And even if it is, it will be because they are offering tickets at dirt cheap prices meaning you'll be lucky to get even half face value back. So virtually pointless.

Have to agree with the OP. It is greedy and if I'm honest has left a rather bitter taste for me in what has otherwise been one of the best seasons on the pitch since I've been supporting the club.

Ok not having ago at you or anyone else, and would be in the same situation if I'd carried on purchasing a ST, as my mobility stops me going regular and due to not even being able to afford any membership this season the only game I got to was the Middlesbrough 1 due to someone giving us their ticket.

One of the reasons we are playing at Wembley is because that's what the fans wanted in any polls they carried out. They originally was only going to have 50k but can now have the max (even if it's unlikely we will), but they also have an extra expense compared to what we would have at the lane. To rent Wembley it is costing them 15m+ to rent the stadium, if they gave every season ticket holder at present a £100 off that it would cost another 2.5m, due to brexit the cost of the stadium has nearly doubled, and not trying to be horrible, but they can't cater for how it effects every single individual. The move to Wembley might work out to suit 80+%,

To put an amnesty in most probably worked out to be too costly, and caused problems when we do move into the new stadium. all I do know is I wished I was mobile enough and had the finances, because I'd love to take it off your hands even if for just 1 season. As a club they are trying to take the next step up, and unfortunately even the supporters are having to make a sacrifices.

Hope you make the right choice, and hopefully get to use it enough and also get something for the games you can't attend

Bobbins · May 4, 2017

I'm surprised anyone is, er, surprised.

The club are not in the business of doing the fans favours, they're in the business of maximising revenue. The ticket prices will be based on the maximum price they think they can charge without significantly driving fans away.

They will also be hoping no doubt to attract lots more tourists, fair-weather fans and kids with cheap concession and general sale tickets, which will no doubt piss season ticket holders off even more.

But season ticket holders aren't the club's target - it's those fans mentioned above. They're the ones who spend money on merchandise, who buy food and drink, who turn up early and leave late. They're the ones who Twitter and Instagram everything they do, who tag the clubs and their friends in pictures and who increase the international profile of the club.

The last person the club is interested in pleasing is the season ticket holder who's been going for 20 years, turns up at two minutes before kick off, leaves right on the whistle, never buys a thing in the club shop and probably buys a new shirt once every two or three seasons.

That's just how it is. It's how Arsenal got their gigantic army of (mostly foreign) fans who are covered head to toe in club merchandise and who know absolutely fuck all about the game beyond the fact that they follow Arsenal.

It's inevitable that we'all increasingly see our fan base go the same way with the new stadium and our recent success. The die hard ST holders and fans of 20 years+ will increasingly go to the bottom of the priority list.

dagraham · May 4, 2017

Saoirse said:
Are you certain? At the time the council offered a compromise measure of 61.5k (to match the capacity of NWHL), but it was said the club opposed this due to the effect on atmosphere of having circa 10k our of 40k upper tier seats occupied which suggests they were involved - not to mention that we sent Donna Cullen along to the planning meeting. My interpretation was that the club wanted 90k, but Wembley had to apply for it on our behalf as the legal event organisers.

Indeed. Why would Brent Council actually want 40k more football supporters traipsing round Wembley Stadium and the tube stations? It's not as if it's even an area which encourages supporters to engage and spend money in the local area before and after the game.

TottenhamMattSpur · May 4, 2017

gregga said:
It'll be interesting to see if 18,000 people actually take up the offer of a season ticket at Wembley.

It they don't, might the club start to get a little panicky?

I'm number 65,327
They'll find 18k out of the 65,326 below me.

dagraham · May 4, 2017

Bobbins said:
I'm surprised anyone is, er, surprised.

The club are not in the business of doing the fans favours, they're in the business of maximising revenue. The ticket prices will be based on the maximum price they think they can charge without significantly driving fans away.

They will also be hoping no doubt to attract lots more tourists, fair-weather fans and kids with cheap concession and general sale tickets, which will no doubt piss season ticket holders off even more.

But season ticket holders aren't the club's target - it's those fans mentioned above. They're the ones who spend money on merchandise, who buy food and drink, who turn up early and leave late.

The last person the club is interested in pleasing is the season ticket holder who's been going for 20 years, turns up at two minutes before kick off, leaves right on the whistle, never buys a thing in the club shop and probably buys a new shirt once every two or three seasons.

That's just how it is. It's how Arsenal got their gigantic army of (mostly foreign) fans who are covered head to toe in club merchandise and who know absolutely fuck all about the game beyond the fact that they follow Arsenal.

It's inevitable that we'all increasingly see our fan base go the same way with the new stadium and our recent success. The die hard ST holders and fans of 20 years+ will increasingly go to the bottom of the priority list.

I can't argue with anything you say and in fairness I'm usually as cynical as they come. I just thought that with the need to fill such a large capacity they would have reduced prices. Let's hope for their sake (and the team) they haven't misjudged it.

A shame that ST holders who've paid some of the most expensive ticket prices in the game for so long ( a lot of which when we were shit) are treated with such apparent disdain, but as you say, that's progress for you.

Gb160 · May 4, 2017

dagraham said:
I can't argue with anything you say and in fairness I'm usually as cynical as they come. I just thought that with the need to fill such a large capacity they would have reduced prices. Let's hope for their sake (and the team) they haven't misjudged it.

A shame that ST holders who've paid some of the most expensive ticket prices in the game for so long ( a lot of which when we were shit) are treated with such apparent disdain, but as you say, that's progress for you.

I commented during the Real/Athletico match how when Real scored, half the 'fans' didn't even stand up to celebrate...most were just tourists trying to film Ronaldo on their phones, and the contrast between that and the scenes when we scored against Arsenal on Sunday....my point being i agree with @Bobbins, that's the sort of fan clubs are after now, dropping £100 in the club shop before the match, buying every souvenir that the children of China can churn out.
Also it's a sad reality that there will probably never be another NLD with that kind of atmosphere again

Coyboy · May 4, 2017

Dougal said:
18 years a season ticket holder. I've gone from moving away from the North Stand when it was changed to the family stand to moving to east Stand block 25 which was 'next to centre'. This was relabelled 'centre' and price increased so I moved again to block 23 in the corner. This was then deemed to be the WAG corner where players could have seats for their other half and family so I moved to block 24. Which was then demolished. They moved me to the Park Lane, apart from Cup games when I got moved. Now the whole thing is getting demolished and they want me to go to Wembley. And want to know if I want to buy my seat for £50. To be honest I haven't really had time to get attached to it. One season there and I'll be in the new ground. Don't ask me where I'll be sitting. I'm tired. I just wanna watch Spurs.

I was wondering whether our block got demolished yet. Shame, I would have happily moved to the Park Lane. I gave up my ST days before Poch took over, great timing, and have regretted it ever since. I have managed to get tickets one or way or the other for virtually any game I wanted but I do miss it.

I despise everything about Wembley but I will jump at the chance to get a ST next year, just hope I am not too far down the list. I suspect I am even with all the people that won’t take one up.

PT · May 4, 2017

Gb160 said:
I commented during the Real/Athletico match how when Real scored, half the 'fans' didn't even stand up to celebrate...most were just tourists trying to film Ronaldo on their phones, and the contrast between that and the scenes when we scored against Arsenal on Sunday....my point being i agree with @Bobbins, that's the sort of fan clubs are after now, dropping £100 in the club shop before the match, buying every souvenir that the children of China can churn out.
Also it's a sad reality that there will probably never be another NLD with that kind of atmosphere again

I'm banking on the new stadium delivering that, so long as Shelf and South Stand get relocated en bloc.

camaj · May 4, 2017

DIEHARD said:
I don't think we will be able to use stub hub to sell tickets and if we do the prices won't be extortionate... Simply because of supply demand coupled with the low prices the general sale tickets would go for.

If you were replying to me I'm not worried that stubhub prices will be extortionate. Quite the opposite, I'm worried that given the losses I've made since the club started using SH that things will be even worse. I can't see us selling 90,000 tickets to Burnley at full price, so either way it doesn't look good for people selling their tickets.

dagraham · May 5, 2017

camaj said:
If you were replying to me I'm not worried that stubhub prices will be extortionate. Quite the opposite, I'm worried that given the losses I've made since the club started using SH that things will be even worse. I can't see us selling 90,000 tickets to Burnley at full price, so either way it doesn't look good for people selling their tickets.

Yep, that's the biggest issue. If they went back to the old system I don't think anyone would have any complaints. I simply won't be able to go to all the games at Wembley (probably only half to 2/3), so I face the choice of no ST for the new stadium (after having a ST at WHL for 20 years) or pay an increased price for something I can only use half the time.

nightgoat · May 5, 2017

stonecolddeanaustin said:
A large number of these season ticket holders have been going to 20 games a season for 10 or even 20+ years. I've only had mine for about 4 seasons (after being on the waiting list for nearly 10 years) but to give you an idea of the demand from our bronze members back then when I had to sell my ticket on Stubhub a few times I was lucky to get £20 for it. I can see that bronze members are getting screwed here as well as season ticket holders but to suggest they deserve more from the club than season ticket holders is just ridiculous.

It will be interesting to see how many bronze members take up the option (or how low down the list they have to go to get the 18,000). I've always thought bronze members being automatically put on the season ticket waiting list artificially inflated it a little. I was offered mine the season after being about 2,000th on the list. There's no way 2,000 season tickets came up for grabs in one year.

Where did I suggest members should get more from the club than season ticket holders?

The benefits of having a season ticket are different from the benefits of being a member, so it's not unreasonable to suggest that members shouldn't be forced into buying a season ticket for Wembley.

There was one season a few years ago where they created a couple of thousand more season tickets out of the members allocation...

nicdic · May 5, 2017

It's also been a thing for a long while, for members who are offered a season ticket to be able to turn it down and wait to the following year. Completely different to wanting amnesty on your seat.

WalkerboyUK · May 5, 2017

dagraham said:
I can't argue with anything you say and in fairness I'm usually as cynical as they come. I just thought that with the need to fill such a large capacity they would have reduced prices. Let's hope for their sake (and the team) they haven't misjudged it.

A shame that ST holders who've paid some of the most expensive ticket prices in the game for so long ( a lot of which when we were shit) are treated with such apparent disdain, but as you say, that's progress for you.

As has been said on here a few times already - reduce for next season and then everyone will be pissed off when the price for the following season goes up 20%.
The club will sell plenty of additional tickets for Wembley through Membership and General Sale, so they aren't going to be too worried about season tickets.

WalkerboyUK · May 5, 2017

dagraham said:
Yep, that's the biggest issue. If they went back to the old system I don't think anyone would have any complaints. I simply won't be able to go to all the games at Wembley (probably only half to 2/3), so I face the choice of no ST for the new stadium (after having a ST at WHL for 20 years) or pay an increased price for something I can only use half the time.

I'm sure you'll be able to sell via StubHub for the games you can't attend.

dagraham · May 5, 2017

WalkerboyUK said:
As has been said on here a few times already - reduce for next season and then everyone will be pissed off when the price for the following season goes up 20%.
The club will sell plenty of additional tickets for Wembley through Membership and General Sale, so they aren't going to be too worried about season tickets.

I just don't buy this argument. Most people aren't stupid. It's obvious that the prices in the NWHL
are going to be more expensive than currently, and equally obvious that next season is a special, one off situation.

Imo, I don't think that's been factored into the clubs thinking at all. As has been said, they are just charging the maximum they can get away with, knowing they have current ST holders well and truly by the balls.

It is what it is, but it doesn't stop me being pissed off about it.

dagraham · May 5, 2017

WalkerboyUK said:
I'm sure you'll be able to sell via StubHub for the games you can't attend.

The rules of StubHub are that games have to be sold out. With the prices being charged I can't see many games achieving that.

With 90,000 I believe anyone who wants a ticket will have one, and the only way it's going to sell out is if they offer dirt cheap tickets like Gent.

nicdic · May 5, 2017

No confirmation that we'll be with Stub Hub next season.

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