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Spursmad321

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Some more amazing stats

http://www.football365.com/news/premier-league-201617-the-winners


Mauricio Pochettino and Tottenham
I know the response before I even type the words: But Tottenham haven’t won anything.

That is true, of course. Tottenham ultimately failed to win the Premier League, Champions League, FA Cup, Europa League and EFL Cup, in order of how serious Mauricio Pochettino took each competition. These are facts.

Yet to describe this season as anything other than an overwhelming success is foolish, one-eyed or both. Tottenham started this season as sixth favourites for the Premier League title, expected by bookmakers to miss out on a place in the Champions League. The summer transfer window was intensely disappointing, with the signing of Moussa Sissoko for £30m doing more harm than good.

That Sissoko signing was notable: It took Tottenham into positive net spend over the last five years. Of the 20 clubs in the Premier League this season, only Swansea City have a lower net spend over that period. For all the jokes about using that as a measure of success, it indicates the remarkable job Pochettino has done on a budget and with a small first-team squad. They also still have the lowest average age of any first-team squad in the division.

Pochettino did not just upset the odds to engineer a top-four bid, but ran Chelsea closer to the title than any other club. Tottenham recorded the second highest ever points total by a club that has not won the Premier League title in that season.

Most enjoyably for neutrals, Tottenham are the most exciting team in the division to watch when in form. Their goal difference for the last two seasons, compared with their peers, is mightily impressive:

Tottenham – 94
Manchester City – 71
Arsenal – 67
Chelsea – 58
Liverpool – 49
Manchester United – 39

Spurs have the best full-backs in the league (for now, and when fit), the best central defensive partnership, one of the best goalkeepers, the best young player in Dele Alli and the best striker in Harry Kane. Those players who fill the gaps (Mousa Dembele, Victor Wanyama, Christian Eriksen and Heung-Min Son) aren’t bad either.

Tottenham’s performances against Manchester City in October, Swansea in December, Chelsea in January and Leicester City in May also account for four of the ten best team displays of the season, indication that when this team clicks they are a joy to behold. By any measure, Tottenham have over-achieved.

That does not mean that this Tottenham project is complete or that potential has been realised, but it is worth praising during the journey as well as congratulating them if they reach the ambitious destination. A traditional Premier League also-ran has become a key player. Further squad investment is needed, but keeping their manager will again be the signing of the Spurs summer.



Harry Kane
– Kane has become the fourth player to win consecutive outright Premier League Golden Boots after Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry and Robin van Persie. He is 23.

– Kane became the fourth player to score 20 or more goals in three successive seasons after Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry and Ruud van Nistelrooy, although Sergio Aguero matched that on Sunday. He is 23.

– Only four players have now scored more Premier League hat-tricks than Harry Kane (Alan Shearer, Robbie Fowler, Michael Owen and Thierry Henry). He is 23.

I didn’t sign up to the Harry Kane ‘two-season wonder’ tag just as I didn’t sign up to the ‘one-season wonder’ tag, but that does not mean that Kane’s achievement this season is not surprising. Despite his rise over the last three years, 2016/17 somehow ended as Kane’s best season yet. His record of 29 goals in 30 league matches this season is nothing short of extraordinary.



Tottenham’s defence
Goals conceded since beginning of last season (teams must have played in both seasons):

Tottenham – 60
Manchester United – 64
Arsenal – 79
Manchester City – 80
Chelsea – 85
Southampton – 88
Liverpool – 92

Given that Manchester United, Tottenham’s only close challenger, sacrificed attacking intent for defensive stability, that is a wonderful effort. Toby, Jan, Danny, Kyle, Eric and Hugo; well played.
 

cliff jones

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Some more amazing stats

http://www.football365.com/news/premier-league-201617-the-winners


Mauricio Pochettino and Tottenham
I know the response before I even type the words: But Tottenham haven’t won anything.

That is true, of course. Tottenham ultimately failed to win the Premier League, Champions League, FA Cup, Europa League and EFL Cup, in order of how serious Mauricio Pochettino took each competition. These are facts.

Yet to describe this season as anything other than an overwhelming success is foolish, one-eyed or both. Tottenham started this season as sixth favourites for the Premier League title, expected by bookmakers to miss out on a place in the Champions League. The summer transfer window was intensely disappointing, with the signing of Moussa Sissoko for £30m doing more harm than good.

That Sissoko signing was notable: It took Tottenham into positive net spend over the last five years. Of the 20 clubs in the Premier League this season, only Swansea City have a lower net spend over that period. For all the jokes about using that as a measure of success, it indicates the remarkable job Pochettino has done on a budget and with a small first-team squad. They also still have the lowest average age of any first-team squad in the division.

Pochettino did not just upset the odds to engineer a top-four bid, but ran Chelsea closer to the title than any other club. Tottenham recorded the second highest ever points total by a club that has not won the Premier League title in that season.

Most enjoyably for neutrals, Tottenham are the most exciting team in the division to watch when in form. Their goal difference for the last two seasons, compared with their peers, is mightily impressive:

Tottenham – 94
Manchester City – 71
Arsenal – 67
Chelsea – 58
Liverpool – 49
Manchester United – 39

Spurs have the best full-backs in the league (for now, and when fit), the best central defensive partnership, one of the best goalkeepers, the best young player in Dele Alli and the best striker in Harry Kane. Those players who fill the gaps (Mousa Dembele, Victor Wanyama, Christian Eriksen and Heung-Min Son) aren’t bad either.

Tottenham’s performances against Manchester City in October, Swansea in December, Chelsea in January and Leicester City in May also account for four of the ten best team displays of the season, indication that when this team clicks they are a joy to behold. By any measure, Tottenham have over-achieved.

That does not mean that this Tottenham project is complete or that potential has been realised, but it is worth praising during the journey as well as congratulating them if they reach the ambitious destination. A traditional Premier League also-ran has become a key player. Further squad investment is needed, but keeping their manager will again be the signing of the Spurs summer.



Harry Kane
– Kane has become the fourth player to win consecutive outright Premier League Golden Boots after Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry and Robin van Persie. He is 23.

– Kane became the fourth player to score 20 or more goals in three successive seasons after Alan Shearer, Thierry Henry and Ruud van Nistelrooy, although Sergio Aguero matched that on Sunday. He is 23.

– Only four players have now scored more Premier League hat-tricks than Harry Kane (Alan Shearer, Robbie Fowler, Michael Owen and Thierry Henry). He is 23.

I didn’t sign up to the Harry Kane ‘two-season wonder’ tag just as I didn’t sign up to the ‘one-season wonder’ tag, but that does not mean that Kane’s achievement this season is not surprising. Despite his rise over the last three years, 2016/17 somehow ended as Kane’s best season yet. His record of 29 goals in 30 league matches this season is nothing short of extraordinary.



Tottenham’s defence
Goals conceded since beginning of last season (teams must have played in both seasons):

Tottenham – 60
Manchester United – 64
Arsenal – 79
Manchester City – 80
Chelsea – 85
Southampton – 88
Liverpool – 92

Given that Manchester United, Tottenham’s only close challenger, sacrificed attacking intent for defensive stability, that is a wonderful effort. Toby, Jan, Danny, Kyle, Eric and Hugo; well played.

Nice post mate, whether it's a head full of these stats or a heart full of pride at our league performances across the past two years it's a great time to be Spurs. Think Trips and Ben deserve a mention too.
 

luptic

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There is only two things thats going to stop us progressing, Pochettino leaves, or we dont win anything in the next two seasons.
Either one of them and players will be looking to leave, given the way football is now.
 

DIEHARD

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There is only two things thats going to stop us progressing, Pochettino leaves, or we dont win anything in the next two seasons.
Either one of them and players will be looking to leave, given the way football is now.

I totally agree. I think two years we don't win anything and players will be off in my view.
 

luptic

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I totally agree. I think two years we don't win anything and players will be off in my view.
What needs to happen this summer and next is to improve our squad to the level that some like City and Chelsea have in their squads, starting XI players that can be rotated when we are juggling various competition.
 

DIEHARD

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What needs to happen this summer and next is to improve our squad to the level that some like City and Chelsea have in their squads, starting XI players that can be rotated when we are juggling various competition.

Without turning it into a transfer thread we need to improve squad depth because our first eleven is exceptional.

Just need a stronger bench and basically replace the three we brought last summer although I like GKN and Wimmer who hasn't had much of a look in.
 

Saoirse

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Without turning it into a transfer thread we need to improve squad depth because our first eleven is exceptional.

Just need a stronger bench and basically replace the three we brought last summer although I like GKN and Wimmer who hasn't had much of a look in.
Agree on GKN, but Wimmer has been noticeably poor when bought in and worryingly seems to have regressed from last season.
 

Ironskullll

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Sooner or later we're gonna dish out one hell of a beating!
It was a joke, folks! But having said that, I'd say that next season we'll dish out a least one beating similar to the last two, except it'll be against a top six team, and I reckon there's a chance we'll actually go into double figures against someone. 100 league goals in a season? Strong possibility. I don't see how things can't get better for this team.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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What needs to happen this summer and next is to improve our squad to the level that some like City and Chelsea have in their squads, starting XI players that can be rotated when we are juggling various competition.

Easier said than done. Both those clubs are willing to pay players 100k to sit on the bench. We can't do that.
 

Saoirse

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It was a joke, folks! But having said that, I'd say that next season we'll dish out a least one beating similar to the last two, except it'll be against a top six team, and I reckon there's a chance we'll actually go into double figures against someone. 100 league goals in a season? Strong possibility. I don't see how things can't get better for this team.

There's a chance I guess, but no Premier League team in the 25 seasons it's been going now has ever hit double figures. The record victory is a 9-0 for Man United against Ipswich. It would be a really, really big ask.
 

Luka Van der Bale

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What needs to happen this summer and next is to improve our squad to the level that some like City and Chelsea have in their squads, starting XI players that can be rotated when we are juggling various competition.
Assume our first team is
Lloris
Dier Toby Vert
Walker Wanyama Dembele Rose
Eriksen Kane Alli

I'd say Vorm Trippier Wimmer Davies Winks Lamela Son Janssen is some pretty damn good backup. If we'd had the same lack of injury troubles Chelsea have had all season, Son and Lamela in particular would have been great impact options off the bench.
 

yankspurs

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We can definitely only get better IF we keep the current group together for a few more years. But that will be extremely tough if we dont open up our wage structure a bit. I mean, ffs. Bournemouth are reportedly giving a 34 year old Jermain Defoe £130k/wk. I might be wrong but I dont believe we have anyone making that much.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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We can definitely only get better IF we keep the current group together for a few more years. But that will be extremely tough if we dont open up our wage structure a bit. I mean, ffs. Bournemouth are reportedly giving a 34 year old Jermain Defoe £130k/wk. I might be wrong but I dont believe we have anyone making that much.

I think we do when you factor in bonuses.

Also you have to remember we want a squad full of good quality not just a 1 or 2 players who are paid more and better than the rest like Crystal Palace, Bournemouth, West Ham etc...
 

nicdic

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I think we do when you factor in bonuses.

Also you have to remember we want a squad full of good quality not just a 1 or 2 players who are paid more and better than the rest like Crystal Palace, Bournemouth, West Ham etc...
We got to be careful on here with the bonus thing though, we have no idea what the bonuses are, what they rely on, and what other teams do. It's all well and good supposedly paying high bonuses, but we really know nothing about it, or what other teams are doing.
 

Roynie

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There's a chance I guess, but no Premier League team in the 25 seasons it's been going now has ever hit double figures. The record victory is a 9-0 for Man United against Ipswich. It would be a really, really big ask.

But we were involved in two of the 3 highest scoring games, November 2007 v Reading when we won 6 - 4, and November 2009 when we beat Wigan 9 - 1. The top was September 2007 when Portsmouth beat Reading 7 - 4. Who's to say we could beat that next year with this team, after all IMHO it's a better one that we had in '07!

EDIT: COULDN'T ....... Doh!
 
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Khilari

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Massive challenges ahead of us:
Wembley
Keeping best players
Competing at the top level again with teams who will probably improve (City, Liverpool, Arsenal)

But if we can ride this out, I think we'll be set in our new stadium.
 

scat1620

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If only there was a mid-90s pop song featuring a physics professor on keyboards which could express how I'm feeling about Spurs right now.
 
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