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Exactly. Not even remotely comparable.
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Exactly. Not even remotely comparable.
Everlasting Seconds
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It's simply because it is unlikely that a high ratio of broadcasted matches in the US will influence the actual number that chooses to attend matches in person in PL. Here, fewer matches are televised because that leads to more people actually going to the match. I'm sure there are similar mechanisms within the US for domestic sports broadcasts.
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Yet Germany broadcast all games don't they?
The model here is wrong. Fewer people are watching football on Sky and BT, and are streaming. Not sure it necessarily affects attendances.
Ticket prices need to come down, and all games should be televised. Would lead to higher attendances.
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In Denmark, PL-games are under the same restrictions as in the UK, which makes no sense at all.
No we do not have anything like that at all. Every game in every sport is broadcast on the teams regional networks(either contracted out or owned by the team) and some games are picked up nationally. If your out of region for your team, the leagues have streaming/ppv packages you could buy for the games. The point is you always have a legal avenue available to you to watch a game. Not only do we have that for the sports here, we also now have that ability for the PL, Bundesliga, CL, EL, Euros, WC. And much of La Liga, Serie A and Ligue 1 are available to watch/stream as well.
I'd reckon all the current rules in England do is give way to a huge influx of traffic to illegal streaming sites
rabbikeane
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It's as backwards as the fight against mp3 music and pirate bay.
Just have no restrictions and give as good legal product as it's possible to make
Just have no restrictions and give as good legal product as it's possible to make
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Sky lost the rights in Germany to show EPL games, but DAZN a streaming service (legal, costs 9.99 a month) shows them all, sometimes with a delay until the match has finished, but I watched most of the Spurs games this way and live.
Now yes, I live abroad, so it's my only real option, but I seriously think the UK model is outdated. People will go to the matches regardless, especially if it drives down ticket priced (compensated by increase in tv/internet revenue).
Now yes, I live abroad, so it's my only real option, but I seriously think the UK model is outdated. People will go to the matches regardless, especially if it drives down ticket priced (compensated by increase in tv/internet revenue).
Gb160
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This is where it gets a bit complicated though, i can definitely see a case for televising all PL games, but the argument is it would hit lower league clubs hard in their attendances, and their match day revenue is essentially what keeps these clubs running, as they get buggar all from TV rights.
I don't buy this personally, but apparently a lot of people go and see lower league clubs as a their second team when their first team is playing away.
It makes even less sense with all the 'iffy' methods of streaming now available, if someone wants to watch every game their team plays, its really not that hard.
Something needs to change thats for sure...maybe just pump a bit more money from the TV deal to these lower league teams that will take the hit? i don't know, but its a very special situation we have in this country of having 96 professional clubs, and im pretty sure that this is a big factor in why only certain games are shown live.
Everlasting Seconds
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To put the record straight, I'm far from agreeing with the UK broadcasting model. There are several sustainable ways for utilising modern technology to make available far more matches for broadcasts.
Lilbaz
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Firstly we cannot watch 15:00 saturday games because they want to protect the smaller teams. They worry that people will not go and watch barnet if arsenal v spurs is on tv.
Secondly we can't watch all our games because the premier league is a shared tv deal. How long would that last if the majority of viewers were watching the big teams and not the smaller teams? Man utd, liverpool would demand a bigger slice of the cake. Look at spain. Also sponsors might hold back money if only a few thousand were watching boro v soton and everyone else were watching the other matches.
That is precisely what is happening anyway? No matter which way you do it, some clubs will get screwed either because of the inherent bias of the media or the larger fan base. But it will be way more fair for the fans to show all the games, and even though it might lead to the same discrepency in payments, every side could get more money.
The Premier League could just create a pay monthly or annually streaming service for the UK and show all the games on it, but black out those that get picked for tv. Fair for the fans as they could then get to see their club play, more money for the clubs. Win/win.
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Lilbaz
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It probably will happen. I know virgin are trying to go court over the 15:00 games.
Lighty64
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i can't even do that in the way i was hoping when I moved. thought with a better internet speed I'd finally be able to use my firestick, but using the broadband service I chose, looks like it's got a block on streaming.
tried to watch Hull game, but it went down big time.
if they showed every premier match via bt or sky, it would have an effect, but more so on lower league teams that go to their local team even though they support a PL team
canadacelt
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Incorrect:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackout_(broadcasting)
And it's the right thing to do, maintaining crowd volume at a game is more important than being to watch on TV, I'm a lucky benefactor as I'm so far away from where Spurs play on the other hand offset by the fact it's an expensive proposition to travel to The Lane. Would prefer being able to attend and miss a few games on TV
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Nope. Games are very rarely, if ever, blacked out anymore
canadacelt
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http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/broadcasts/national_wkend.jsp
Fair enough it's rarer in the U.S. , more frequent here in the civilized world
Fair enough it's rarer in the U.S. , more frequent here in the civilized world
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Those are all national broadcasts. Blacked out on the regional networks because it is available exclusively on the national networks.
That was disproved when Sky first started televising matches
Teams were compensated by Sky in anticipation of the decrease in live match day attendance due to the increased coverage of matches, but in actual fact attendances went up
Us not being able to watch all games live on tv has nothing to do with the potential for match attendance to go down
It's purely down to tv rights - the EPL sells packages to competing broadcasters like BT and SKy and no one has the right to show all matches so packages aren't sold for any one broadcaster to be able to show all games live on demand like in the US (or how sky do with the highlights and the red button match select)
I suppose at least it levels the playing field somewhat - if all games were shown live eventually the bigger/more watched teams would start demanding more money or the rights to broadcast (or at least have a share in the direct revenue from the broadcast) of their matches as a unique entity from the over all EPL package
RichieS
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Across the entire football pyramid? I think the argument outlined above is that if Spurs are on the telly when away then fewer people rock up to Barnet or Enfield Town which is a serious issue for those clubs.
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