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If I use my imaginary calculator/Football Manager formula then... Lemar & Seri for a combined £70 - 80 million (crazy I know but that's the current going rate) could be covered for by and large by the departures of Walker (perhaps as high as £50m) and Sissoko. If we then replaced Walker with that Portuguese RB then we'd only be £20 million or so down - and you could argue the Bentaleb deal covers that too.

Still optimistic all the above can happen.
 

spuradik

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heelspurs

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Well TBH, I'm not sure if we ever had a good chance of getting him. I don't know how accurate that story from Squawka is but here is an in-depth account of his transfer to Dortmund.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ennes-borussia-dortmund-agents-release-clause

I would think that was also the reason why Liverpool lost out as well.
Our dealings were a year before his ultimate transfer to Dortmund. At this time Dembele hadn't even played a 1st team game for Rennes. Hence the low fee and academy contract. I just posted the most recent (and easiest to find) bookmarked article I have. There were others that reported the PEA (during AVB) and Dembele deals could and perhaps should have been done deals for us.
 

EJWTartanSpur

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Lemar performed way better in the French league than GKN.
5 goals 2 assists for GKN in 2015-16.
9 goals 10 assists for Lemar in 2016-17.

And Lemar was a key piece of the team that broke PSG's reign in Ligue 1, went into UCL semis, and he's now in the french NT (GKN is and was nowhere near the NT).

I think his point was that GKN and Lemars 15/16 seasons were almost the same, not GKN 15/16 and Lemar 16/17. The point being the importance of a full season of regular football in terms of development at that age and how much it can improve you. Its a valid point, it would have been interesting if for instance GKN had been left on loan for a full season in the French league this season just gone and had got to play 35-40 games. Would probably have done wonders for him and he may well have broken out with improved stats
 

arunspurs

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would be a real statement of intent if we could pull off the Lemar deal. He's probably the only gettable player for us from Monaco as for whatever reason no other oligarch clubs seem to have eyed him up yet. as others have said - my concern is at what point do Monaco decide they are no longer selling their players... Silva already gone. Sidibe, Bakayoko, Mendy all rumoured to be off too. Even Fabinho.
Knowing us, we wont go the extra mile to get him. Given Monaco are selling a few they dont need to sell Lemar. While we are interested, cant see this deal happenning.
 

double0

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I am still hoping GKN turns out to be that player we thought.

Lemar is an interesting type, cultured left foot he seems like an intelligent technical sort of player.

I can't see us getting Lemar so it is odd I'm most excited by our link to him.
 

EQP

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If I use my imaginary calculator/Football Manager formula then... Lemar & Seri for a combined £70 - 80 million (crazy I know but that's the current going rate) could be covered for by and large by the departures of Walker (perhaps as high as £50m) and Sissoko. If we then replaced Walker with that Portuguese RB then we'd only be £20 million or so down - and you could argue the Bentaleb deal covers that too.

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There is no way we make any type financial profit on Sissoko
 

spurslenny

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I just do see this happening at all. It goes totally against our transfer strategy of the last few years - buy young, coachable, affordable youngsters and mould them into the players we need.

Lamar is a 40million plus Chelsea style signing. And that's probably exactly where he'll end up.
 

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Hmm.. was just randomly browsing bluemoon, as someone posted Walker info from there earlier tonight. In their Alexis Sanchez-thread they were discussing Lemar, for some reason, and someone posted "Was at Spurs training ground today" as a response to him being linked to Tottenham.
I also saw afcamden, supposedly some Arsenal ITK (please don't kill me. Or worse: ban me) tweet "Arsenal & Spurs in the race to sign Thomas Lemar from Monaco. Talks in London over the coming days" earlier tonight. He also said it's 50/50 between the two clubs.
Might just be bollocks, but might also be some truth in it?
 

SpartanSpur

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Hmm.. was just randomly browsing bluemoon, as someone posted Walker info from there earlier tonight. In their Alexis Sanchez-thread they were discussing Lemar, for some reason, and someone posted "Was at Spurs training ground today" as a response to him being linked to Tottenham.
I also saw afcamden, supposedly some Arsenal ITK (please don't kill me. Or worse: ban me) tweet "Arsenal & Spurs in the race to sign Thomas Lemar from Monaco. Talks in London over the coming days" earlier tonight. He also said it's 50/50 between the two clubs.
Might just be bollocks, but might also be some truth in it?

Very interesting, hopefully we can get him ahead of the goons, as even with the french connection we still have the CL advantage and the forward momentum (and state of the art training ground). Problem is that Arsenal seem shocked into action this summer and will probably blow us out financially...
 

Snarfalicious

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Very interesting, hopefully we can get him ahead of the goons, as even with the french connection we still have the CL advantage and the forward momentum (and state of the art training ground). Problem is that Arsenal seem shocked into action this summer and will probably blow us out financially...

Yep, him going to Arsenal over us will basically boil down to money.
 

felmani26

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Yep, him going to Arsenal over us will basically boil down to money.
History suggests a preference for French footballers to ply their trade at Arsenal under Wenger - don't necessarily believe it will solely be down to money on this one.
 

EJWTartanSpur

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I just do see this happening at all. It goes totally against our transfer strategy of the last few years - buy young, coachable, affordable youngsters and mould them into the players we need.

Lamar is a 40million plus Chelsea style signing. And that's probably exactly where he'll end up.

I actually agree with you. I just don't see us getting Lamar for some reason. However, we do definitely need to re-adjust the parameters of how we go about business. I don't think 40m plus in today's market is completely beyond our means.

I take Son as an example of someone who had clearly been on our list for a few years and we'd made moves before he went to Bayer Leverkusen. Then he suddenly becomes available and we dropped 20m on him in what seemed to be a deal that was tied up fairly quickly when it comes to how we often go about things. 20m odd was up there as one of our biggest fees at the time.

Sissoko was an error but showed that 12 months ago we could and would agree to a 30m purchase.

I have to believe that there are certain players that have been on and are on our target lists for a good while now, and we will spend the money if they were to become available. Isco and Kovacic would be two that I'd hazard a guess we have kept an eye on for longer periods of time, but are currently back out of the shop window for the time being.

Perhaps Lemar is one of those players, perhaps not. But I do think that if the correct player was to become a viable target, we are capable of spending 40m plus on them should we deem it to be a shrewd piece of business.
 

SpartanSpur

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I actually agree with you. I just don't see us getting Lamar for some reason. However, we do definitely need to re-adjust the parameters of how we go about business. I don't think 40m plus in today's market is completely beyond our means.

I take Son as an example of someone who had clearly been on our list for a few years and we'd made moves before he went to Bayer Leverkusen. Then he suddenly becomes available and we dropped 20m on him in what seemed to be a deal that was tied up fairly quickly when it comes to how we often go about things. 20m odd was up there as one of our biggest fees at the time.

Sissoko was an error but showed that 12 months ago we could and would agree to a 30m purchase.

I have to believe that there are certain players that have been on and are on our target lists for a good while now, and we will spend the money if they were to become available. Isco and Kovacic would be two that I'd hazard a guess we have kept an eye on for longer periods of time, but are currently back out of the shop window for the time being.

Perhaps Lemar is one of those players, perhaps not. But I do think that if the correct player was to become a viable target, we are capable of spending 40m plus on them should we deem it to be a shrewd piece of business.

Agree with both Son and Sissoko.

In fact Sissoko almost seemed like a power play by Poch to me, and Levy backed him with an uncharacteristic deal IMHO. At the time I was more interested about that than the actual player!
 
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