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kernowspurscoach1977

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It was more referring to the fact that he seems to like going to ground, and they are not going to show his bad tackles on a highlight video. If he does that quite often, then he's likely to get himself booked or sent off a fair bit in the EPL. If he can do that and never foul, then awesome. But I can't see that being the case. If you feel a WTF is necessary, fair enough. But I'm just going off what I see.
But on the continent the referees are even less tolerant with hard tackles so if he doesn't get booked or sent off regularly in France, I am sure he'll be fine over here
 

ButchCassidy

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Firstly, can people drop the whole "if Poch is happy then that's good enough for me" bullshit when it comes to signing controversial players. Stop being such a blind fanboy. People said he was wrong to go after Osvaldo, Sissoko, Berahino and the fan boys leapt to his defence every time but not one of those players have shown any justification of the faith he showed in them. He is a superb manager but has got this kind of call wrong on many occasions in the past - his judgement isn't perfect. Learn to think for yourselves.

Oh please. No one is saying that because they think Poch has perfect judgment. They are saying it because he has a hell of a lot more information than anyone on this board about the player and his current state of mind, plus his results have been good enough to have earned some faith in his own targets. Everyone else saying "Aurier will be totally fine" or "he'll always be a wanker" are literally guessing based on next to nothing.
 

Ben1

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Oh please. No one is saying that because they think Poch has perfect judgment. They are saying it because he has a hell of a lot more information than anyone on this board about the player and his current state of mind, plus his results have been good enough to have earned some faith in his own targets. Everyone else saying "Aurier will be totally fine" or "he'll always be a wanker" are literally guessing based on next to nothing.
This. Not saying hes right all the time, but he would have talked to the player and people that know him (especially at PSG), so if he believes it'll be fine there will be a reason he believes that. He could be wrong, but he sure is in a better position to judge than us lot.
 

robertgoulet

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Firstly, can people drop the whole "if Poch is happy then that's good enough for me" bullshit when it comes to signing controversial players. Stop being such a blind fanboy. People said he was wrong to go after Osvaldo, Sissoko, Berahino and the fan boys leapt to his defence every time but not one of those players have shown any justification of the faith he showed in them. He is a superb manager but has got this kind of call wrong on many occasions in the past - his judgement isn't perfect. Learn to think for yourselves.

From experience, I find that as long as players are delivering on the pitch our fans don't really care what they've done off it. Hoddle said some disgusting things about disabled people. Van Der Vaart beat up his wife. King and Woodgate both got arrested for assaults and allegedly said racist things during them. Defoe was a serial love rat and IIRC ended someone else's marriage. These guys for the most part are loved by our fans. If Aurier came here, got his head down, performed well and stayed out of trouble then nobody would give a shit about what he's done in the past.

Having said that, I have my doubts about leopards changing their spots. Yes, you have examples of some players who have done, but for every Cantona/Van Persie there are a load more Taraabts, Balotellis and Ravel Morrisons who leave behind them a long trail of managers who think they can change them but ultimately fail. Poch has proved ruthless in getting any bad eggs out of the squad the second they step out of line, and this to me seems like an accident waiting to happen. Perhaps he could succeed here but I can't think of many players with "extra baggage" that we've gambled on who have been successes, think Bentley, Sissoko, Dalmat...Adebayor was good at times before he turned back into Adebayor. I guess Gallas was a decent enough signing on a free.

But anyway. Aurier isn't allowed into the country. This isn't speculation - he literally was denied entry when trying to come to London. Surely that makes this a complete non-starter and this entire discussion completely pointless anyway?
Regarding your last line: no, it doesn't make it pointless. As his appeal is settled (word is it was heard in court on Aug 7) his situation may change. It's obviously worth watching.
 

Eric_s

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Blanc and team mates was same video so not a repeat :)

Who knows about the true police assault because if you are from an ethnic minority you learn that policemen are not all fair in their approach to black people especially. prejudice by those in authority and power is much worse in France than it is in the uk and it is bad enough here!!

I am sure there are people in this forum who call refs much worse than "son of a bitch"

He seems like he needs some maturity and Poch and Levy will need to make a judgement on that after speaking to him..

I agree. There was a recent case where a few french policemen forced their way into the house of a Chinese man and shot him to death right in front of his young children. His offence was making noise after returning home drunk and did not response to the police knocking.
 

ButchCassidy

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Regarding your last line: no, it doesn't make it pointless. As his appeal is settled (word is it was heard in court on Aug 7) his situation may change. It's obviously worth watching.
Not only that, wasn't there a very informative post on here earlier talking about how its a completely different process for a travel visa (which he was rejected for before) and a footballer work visa (which is given at the request of the FA with apparently very little review)?
 

robertgoulet

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Regarding your last line: no, it doesn't make it pointless. As his appeal is settled (word is it was heard in court on Aug 7) his situation may change. It's obviously worth watching.
Not only that, wasn't there a very informative post on here earlier talking about how its a completely different process for a travel visa (which he was rejected for before) and a footballer work visa (which is given at the request of the FA with apparently very little review)?
Didn't see that but you may be right.
 

heelspurs

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It was more referring to the fact that he seems to like going to ground, and they are not going to show his bad tackles on a highlight video. If he does that quite often, then he's likely to get himself booked or sent off a fair bit in the EPL. If he can do that and never foul, then awesome. But I can't see that being the case. If you feel a WTF is necessary, fair enough. But I'm just going off what I see.

Aurier in 216 games (17,848 minutes) has received a total of 42 cards in his career with 2 sendings-off, 1 being straight red. I guess I don't need to tell you that this is a pretty nice record for a player with his level of 'aggressivity'. Hopefully that mollifies any further on-field disciplinary concerns you might have.
 

CrouchPotato

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Very smiley dude in all his insta posts, always seems to be joking about a lot which I like. Hopefully he has learnt from his mistakes. Oftentimes we forget that footballers are people too, I believe someone said most of the incidents occurred over a short period of time so it is possible he was just experiencing a really tough period in his life. As a footballer though he's an absolute beast, he also looks like his disciplinary problems are very much off field and separable. I haven't seen any reports of bust ups with team mates in training and Emery seems to have wanted to keep him at PSG after being there for a period of time, he wouldn't want to keep him around if he was too disruptive to the team.
 

CrouchPotato

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If Bielsa thought 14 year old Poch had a footballers legs- I wonder what he would think of Aurier's :LOL:
 

diamond lights

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Going off this video alone, he will be a poor choice. Just in the first two minutes you will see him slide tackle 90% and will see him sent off so easily in the EPL. He seems to go in hard and if the other player gets injured, even better. Not the type of player I was hoping for.
With that raw material to work with Poch would make him the best right back in the PL. He's magic with fullbacks you know!
 

BringBack_leGin

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If he's going to behave then he'd be a very good signing, I'm all for giving KWP the responsibility from now but we'd basically be upgrading Walker with his 24 year old self, just as fast with more crossing ability.
 

agrdavidsfan

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We sign this guy I would be amazed he's a prick yes, but he's hell of a footballer could make us title challengers
 

diamond lights

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We sign this guy I would be amazed he's a prick yes, but he's hell of a footballer could make us title challengers
Yeah, I don't mind if he's bit of a 'bad' boy - we're not buying a Sunday School teacher - just as long as he's a team player and can get on with the rest of the boys and buy into Poch's collective mentality.
 

SpartanSpur

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Another Pablo Osvaldo ?

He didn't sign him here. Poch says 'we' put a lot of effort into judging personalities and work ethic, and I'd imagine that is not an inaccurate translation.

Yes looks a risk but I'm happy to give our transfer team the benefit of the doubt here. Have we signed a player under Poch who has been a nightmare? I'd say even Sissoko has worked hard but has just lacked quality.
 
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