JB_Spurs
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Well yeah, if he's forced to do it then it's redundant anyway. My hope is that he has genuinely learned from his errors and wants to prove it publicly. Happy to support him if he does so
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Well yeah, if he's forced to do it then it's redundant anyway. My hope is that he has genuinely learned from his errors and wants to prove it publicly. Happy to support him if he does so
pennywise
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Well, if someone needs to be 'forced' in order to to initiate a dialogue with a supporters faction fighting discrimination in the stands, then that person has no place in the Spurs I know.
Yes. That is absolutely overreacting. Is the entire fanbase suddenly less tolerant of LGBT people because of this signing?
The thought of him being forced to attend does, yes.
He doesn't have a "past of homophobic offences", he said some stupid (and thoroughly unpleasant) things in a single social media appearance. It annoys me that people think he's been expressing homophobic views for years and that he's been out there crusading against gay people. He grew up in a very rough part of Paris and his family comes from a country which is significantly behind many European countries in its recognition of gay rights and also its recognition and punishment of discrimination. He said stupid, insensitive things, he apologised (whether you believe the sincerity of his apology is neither here nor there), I hope this moment of stupidity doesn't hang over him for his entire career.
If he wants to do something with the LGBT group then I'm all for it but let's not hold it over him and hate him forever if he doesn't.
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BoringOldFan
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Sure. Just like we did with Adebayor. No problem. No problem at all.
spacessships
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Unless you are LGBT I respectfully disagree that it's your call to make that decision when fans are publicly stating LGBT is not welcome at Tottenham Hotspur.
Comparing Serge to Ade is silly. Not going to comment further, but I know who I'd prefer. Faith in Poch, much more so than Redknapp.
luRRka
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Mate, it's a couple of idiots on twitter who's belief would be the same regardless of a transfer for aurier.
jimmy-jojo
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Can I ask if you have watched the Periscope video?
spacessships
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You are missing the point entirely. Signing Aurier is giving their stupid opinions a voice and reinforcing the idea that this is all no big deal.
On the other hand I am more than willing to give the club time and space to handle the PR on this as he is not officially signed.
My original point is that I'm glad people want Spurs to be ethically different than a club like Chelski and it's situations like this that are opportunities for that. And I don't think the writers of these articles secretly want or are stupid enough to think if we didn't sign Aurier we'd be horrible this season. Some of them are confirmed long term Spurs fans and care as deeply about the club as anyone on SC.
thinktank
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And I'm sure they fully appreciate your gracious benevolence, Lord Spacessships.
spacessships
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Yup.
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Tottenham Hotspur is not unwelcoming to LGBT people - I'm a supporter and I welcome all other fans. Their sexuality is of no interest to me. The comments you refer to are made by a few attention seekers.
Twitter is full of these type of idiots. All sexist, homophobic, racist, childish and extreme views find a home there. If we over-react to stupid comments and treat them like serious crimes we are only giving oxygen to these tossers.
There is real discrimination, violence, slavery and injustice worth fighting against and by people being over offended by words (albeit very poorly judged) the real issues don't get dealt with.
thinktank
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Here: a young guy acting tough and cool on a periscope; saying shit that he thinks makes him look tougher and cooler to other young guys; because he wants other young guys to think he's tough and cool...because he's a fucking young guy!!
Watch it and shut up about it please. This is fucking tedious. The world doesn't have to gravitate to your every whim.
Watch it and shut up about it please. This is fucking tedious. The world doesn't have to gravitate to your every whim.
jimmy-jojo
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So you think it shows that he hates homosexuals?
Cornpattbuck
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If you spend any time delving into homophobia in football on twitter there are insults getting thrown around for anything from players' haircuts to misplaced passes by the same cretins.
It's a sad state of affairs that existed long before this potential transfer and twitter/social media companies should be held responsible for allowing it to breed so freely.
I have every faith in our club to handle the conversation sensitively and responsibly, wherever it is possible for them to do so.
stevenurse
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Forget the players, the thing that sets us aside from teams like Chelsea is they win stuff.
I'm not looking for angels at my football club and last time I checked, you get nothing for being the pillars of morality.
A large portion of footballers are overpaid, arrogant, self important dickheads, but the only difference is that Aurier was stupid and did it publicly. He's stupid but saying something offensive (being offended is in itself another debate) doesn't make him a homophobe.
As many have said, some seem to have selective memories about certain players.
As long as the scoreboard says the right thing at the end of the game I honestly couldn't give a shit. If that makes me ignorant or a bad person, so be it. Would much rather celebrate a league title than a PL badge for LGBT awareness
I'm not looking for angels at my football club and last time I checked, you get nothing for being the pillars of morality.
A large portion of footballers are overpaid, arrogant, self important dickheads, but the only difference is that Aurier was stupid and did it publicly. He's stupid but saying something offensive (being offended is in itself another debate) doesn't make him a homophobe.
As many have said, some seem to have selective memories about certain players.
As long as the scoreboard says the right thing at the end of the game I honestly couldn't give a shit. If that makes me ignorant or a bad person, so be it. Would much rather celebrate a league title than a PL badge for LGBT awareness
VertongHen
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I'm not sure about you guys, but I was always going around saying shit like that.
If something was boring I'd say "Pfft, that was gay", if someone was annoying I'd say "He's so f***ing gay", etc.
I'm not a homophobic person. At all. But back when I was younger I wanted to sound cool sometimes, plus it was something my mates all said, so I kind of got caught up in it.
All this is, is a young chap, relaxing with a mate, who lets a couple of homophobic comments slip out. Unfortunately for him, he did it on a livestream, and he's famous.
People are blowing this way out of proportion.
If something was boring I'd say "Pfft, that was gay", if someone was annoying I'd say "He's so f***ing gay", etc.
I'm not a homophobic person. At all. But back when I was younger I wanted to sound cool sometimes, plus it was something my mates all said, so I kind of got caught up in it.
All this is, is a young chap, relaxing with a mate, who lets a couple of homophobic comments slip out. Unfortunately for him, he did it on a livestream, and he's famous.
People are blowing this way out of proportion.
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