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Univarn

Univarn

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C0YS said:
I tipped them at the start of the season as a team to finish outside the top 10. I mean I think they problably will finish 7th, mostly because the teams that should be pushing them don't seem to have enough in them. But I did think they went backwards during the window.

People always hype up teams which sign a lot of player. But not one of their signings would be a guaranteed starter in a top 6 side. Signing Martina, literally the worst player in a Southampton shirt last year was bizzare. So was the failure to truly by dynamic players and front man which can really ead the line. Unfortunately I do not think Ramirez has enough to lead the line in Everton's current set up.
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I agree. I think they got caught up in what they could buy rather than what they needed. The purchases of Keane and Pickford, while young, are smart buys that I am sure will pay off and are positions they had to upgrade. However, Sandro, Rooney, Gylfi, and Davy are all roughly different shades of the same venn diagram of player and to use them to replace Barkley and Lukaku you almost have to play all 4 to get the combination of skills needed for those 2 and they're all dead slow. So you have to throw in a still developing Calvert-Lewin, hope Tom Davies continues doesn't regress, and pray Bolasie can return and have discovered the art of crossing just so you have some pace and creativity. Once you do that, how do you play all these shiny new signings and keep them happy?
 
michaelden

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philip said:
Everton are really putting down a market this summer.

So far

Pickford
Michael Keane
Klassen
Sandro Ramirez

All young, talented and sensible but exiting signings.

Hope they overtake Liverpool.
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well I liked this comment as I felt they were going to push on but after this last game they looked a bit disjointed
 
spursfan77

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Krule said:
I wonder how many top Everton people are already starting to perhaps have reservations about the Rooney signing. When last at the club he was a young,highly talented and extremely down to earth youngster, attracting attention from all the 'glamorous' clubs. This time they have signed a still talented but now egotistical, multi millionaire who seems to have little respect for his family or football club as far as media involvement is concerned.

The exact details of this latest scandal are unnecessary...the facts speak for themselves. A professional footballer found guilty of drink driving is totally inexcusable but when it's also in the company of a 'less than reputable' female who is in a similar condition, whilst his pregnant wife is away on yet another holiday...??...the mind just boggles.
Now Mrs Rooney has requested Everton give him 'sympathetic' leave to try and recover his marriage....believing her husband was 'preyed' upon by a 'chancer'. :whistle:....yeah right.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4870978/Coleen-Rooney-wants-Wayne-ask-Everton-time-off.html

She may be stupid (or greedy) enough to find excuses for his behaviour and forgive him but Koeman needs to re-assess the situation. He will not tolerate bad publicity for Everton but to then be asked to allow Rooney to be given time off in order to rescue his marriage will surely push his patience to the limit.

It's a bad start by anyone's standards and maybe Wayne's dream return to his boyhood club is already turning into a nightmare for Everton's management team.

As Captain Mainwaring from Dad's Army would undoubtedly say......... "Stupid Boy !".
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Koeman will end up deploying him in midfield like England did, because he will be under pressure to get him in the team and Rooney won't be quick enough to play up front. I wouldn't be surprised for it to cost him his job.
 
heelspurs

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spursfan77 said:
Koeman will end up deploying him in midfield like England did, because he will be under pressure to get him in the team and Rooney won't be quick enough to play up front. I wouldn't be surprised for it to cost him his job.
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In the US these players are called "coach killers". Their egos don't allow them to be coached. Their reputations and status draws the fans support and keeps the media hordes on their side. And they can't be released/traded/purchased by another team because their is no market for them due to either big contract, skills/contract disparity, character issues, etc. Rooney to Everton was one of the dumbest decisions made this TW. As Poch jettisoned older, big ego players to focus on the youth Everton threw a spanner in their works and slowed their progress with this move. Rooney was done at this level and it was for all to see last year.
 
spursfan77

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heelspurs said:
In the US these players are called "coach killers". Their egos don't allow them to be coached. Their reputations and status draws the fans support and keeps the media hordes on their side. And they can't be released/traded/purchased by another team because their is no market for them due to either big contract, skills/contract disparity, character issues, etc. Rooney to Everton was one of the dumbest decisions made this TW. As Poch jettisoned older, big ego players to focus on the youth Everton threw a spanner in their works and slowed their progress with this move. Rooney was done at this level and it was for all to see last year.
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It's strange because at the other side of the club, Everton are buying up young players under 20 like nobody's business. Maybe they see Rooney as a role model for these kids. Not that his behaviour should do.
 
Nine while nine

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Not only does RAWK give great insight into the wild-eyed delusion of your average Liverpool fan, it also has a nice little side-line in taking the piss out of Everton. To that end, a couple of interesting stats on Everton, so favoured by many on here for top four.

Firstly, there's the yellow card to shots on target ratio...

v Spurs - 3 yellow cards, 0 shots on target
v Chelsea - 2 yellow cards, 0 shots on target
v Man City - 4 yellow cards, 2 shots on target
v Stoke - 1 yellow card, 4 shots on target

Total: 10 yellow cards, 6 shots on target. No shot on target since 21st August :D


Secondly, there's the Wayne Rooney stat

Everton have scored two goals so far this season. Wayne Rooney has got both. Wayne Rooney has therefore earned all of Everton's points so far this season...

3 against Stoke.

1 against Man City.

6 (at least) for driving whilst under the influence. :p
 
Marty

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Watching Atalanta cruise to a 3-0 lead at HT, Everton have been truly shit.
 
mpickard2087

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Just caught the last 10 mins of the half whilst I have my dinner, Atalanta could have scored four or five in that time. As bad as they were at the weekend against us, so open. It's like Martinez is still in charge.
 
Cornpattbuck

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How quickly the mood changes!

My Everton supporting mate:

"This is the worst fucking team I've seen in years. Sack the ****s and promote the U23s."
 
Marty

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Atalanta aren't even at home, they're playing at Sassuolo's ground 120 miles away because their ground's being renovated.

With Lyon in their group as well this is a disaster for Everton. It's as if we'd gone 3-0 down to Dortmund, only worse.
 
heelspurs

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If they were smart instead of persisting with this Billy big bollocks new money attitude they would bag this competition and focus on remolding their team and their place in the league. Our ability to manage EL came after years of being in it and accumulating the squad to handle it. And even with that experience and squad we still suffered to a degree playing Thursday-Sunday. They will be flirting with relegation if they take this competition seriously. They better hoped to get pumped today so the decision is taken out of their over-confident minds. They were shit in the league the last time they were in EL.
 
Turlough McHugh

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I was criticized on here for suggesting we would be mad to resign Siggy. He is a mid table player at best. How could anyone be stupid enough to pay 45 big ones for him. As for Rooney...don't even get me started.All the the people who give out about Daniel Levy...would you swap him for that Charlatan Kenwright?:)
 
mpickard2087

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Schneiderlin has badly lost his way since the Man Utd move didn't work out. Along with Lallana he made that Soton team tick back in the day.
 
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