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MOTM

  • Lloris

    Votes: 258 53.3%
  • Toby

    Votes: 9 1.9%
  • Sanchez

    Votes: 53 11.0%
  • Verts

    Votes: 29 6.0%
  • Aurier

    Votes: 7 1.4%
  • Dier

    Votes: 2 0.4%
  • Winks

    Votes: 61 12.6%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 55 11.4%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Kane

    Votes: 1 0.2%
  • Llorente

    Votes: 4 0.8%
  • Rose

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Son

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 5 1.0%

  • Total voters
    484

tot

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Aug 31, 2012
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winks could play at the highest level until he was 45 and never play against a better midfield 2 again in modric and kroos. i knew this guy had the football, but his off-ball work and his positioning tonight was outstanding against the very best. even in the 90th minute he was in full sprint running across the pitch to cover. this guy just broke back into the starting 11, let alone the england set up, the hard work he must have done to regain that level of fitness is crazy. eric dier was in cb tonight, harry winks was the man in the middle stopping real madrid attacks. besides his positioning and intercepting, he still got on a lot of ball and had a +90% success rate.

whats so impressive to me, and i think winks is just a microcosm of the team in this sense, he just belonged out there. its so fitting he had what i thought was his best game in a spurs shirt up against luka modric. lloris will get the plaudits, deservedly, but to me having a 21yo do that at the bernabeu is something we should truly celebrate.

also aurier might be rash, but he's really made a footballer out of his pal sissoko. his turnaround has been outrageous.
 

ljinko888

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Lloris - 9/10 - in previous big games he hasn't been at his best but tonight on the biggest stage he was monumental. Outrageous save from Benzema, pulled off other impressive stops, strong handling and much better passing. MOTM.

Aurier - 7/10 - one rash tackle but generally very good. Love his enthusiasm and bravery to play out of danger.

Sanchez - 8/10 - bossed it. A player who looks like he relishes the battle and had Ronaldo in his pocket. His reading of the game at 21 is so good and potential is sky-high.

Dier - 8/10 - best game at the back for a long time. 100% focused. No dozy lapses and looked like he enjoyed being in the defence more than usual.

Alderwereld - 7/10 - Few nervous moments in the first half but grew into it well.

Vertonghan - 8/10 - they seemed to target him being out of position but he stood firm. Won lots of tackles and played a more gritty game than normal. Also timed his runs forward well - never over-committing but gave them enough to think about.

Winks - 7/10 - I'm very proud - a Spurs boy holding his own at the Bernabeu at the heart of the midfield. He didn't dominate exactly but his ball retention was so mature and while he may have been a little naive in one or two challenges, he's going to grow from this so night so much. We saw a kid who was not fazed, who was not shirking. Kroos and Modric know his name.

Sissoko - 8/10 - best display in the shirt for me. Put in a great shift on and off the ball - the amount of ground he covered to press, tackle and then provide us a counter attacking threat was tremendous. Again he didn't shirk. With Aurier he played some lovely combination passing to open up the right wing. He's coming good.

Eriksen - 6/10 - He also did a lot of good tracking back but tonight his touch seemed off and he was hesitant in breakaways. Not bad but not the Eriksen who is usually so decisive.

Llorente - 7/10 - Worked his socks off to give us an outlet in the first half. In the second he was involved in good attacks and demonstrated deft touch and vision. Justified his selection and won't be long until he bags goals.

Kane - 6.5/10 - Worked hard, great movement for the goal and held the ball up well. 9/10 times he buries that chance. He'll make up for it with a hattrick in the return game.
 

Cravenspurs

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What a game. That plane ride home, knowing how Poch coaches and carries himself, is full of high heads, family love and the desire for more. Today the team proved they can hang with the big boys and although our team hasn't changed much, the mentality of the team has. They continue to grow and with every match, despite the ugly nature of some, we get stronger as a unit; which is the mark of a champion even without the silverware.

Poch - Interesting set up and I understood that it was a reaction to knowing Real would dominate possession and Fernando was there to help release some of that pressure. Didn't really play out that way IMO, but we maintained shape and Poch again shows his ability to adapt.

Lloris - MOTM (b) - Pulled one his best performances out his hat and his distribution wasn't half bad. What a save with his foot.

Serge - B+ - Serge shows why he should be starting ahead of Trippier IMO. He has so much more ability on the ball, defensively and moving forward. Outside his contact with Kross, which we wouldn't have been whining about if he blocked a shot, he was fantastic. Has great shape on his crosses and can get them in early, which is something Walker struggled with.

Sanchez - A - Controlled everything they through at him and is pretty calm on the ball. Best game in the lilywhite.

Dier - A- - Best game this year and for me shows where his true position is. He is strong airily and isn't required to move the ball as much.

Toby - A - He is back in form and for the most part won the majority of his battles with Ronaldo.

Verts - A- - LB isn't his best position and he made it look relatively simple. Dealt with a pacey RB and is 10 years his elder.

Winks - MOTM (A) - So happy for this kid. He is pure class and for me he is a starter even ahead of the beloved Dembele. He makes the ball move and there were multiple times where he made Modric like passes from one side of the pitch to the other. The only player in our CM that can pick a 50 yard pass out via the floor.

Sissoko - A - Great shift and played a very solid game. That heel tho. He still makes me laugh with his heavy touch, but his best game by far.

Eriksen - B - Defensively he covered his ground and held his position but offensively he was anything like the player of the past couple months. That 5 on 2 break where he just sat on the ball was something we haven't seen in awhile. Big stretch of games coming so little rest available, but I he looked tired to me.

Kane - B+ - The way he shook Ramos in the first half made me so happy. He could have given us the 3 pts, but that was a worldy save from Navas. That was going right into the bottom corner...maybe just need a bit more pace. If Eriksen picked his head up on his second half shot, Kane would have had a simple tap in.

Fernando - B - His defense comes in the form of hold up play and honestly, I didn't see much of that all game. He is a presence though and we finally saw it come through in the second half of the second half. He will come in handy, but felt Son could have come on earlier.

Rose - NET - Happy to see that loud mouth back out there honestly. Saw the way he uses his body a couple times and I miss that.

Son - NET - I hope he finds his place soon cause I feel like he is being sacrificed for Sissoko. I personally think Son puts in just as much of a shift defensively and well we know he is that much more effective going forward. Had that late turn on goal that looked to be a classic Son left curler, but blocked in the end.

Overall - A++++ what a performance.
 

DJS

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Dec 9, 2006
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What a game. That plane ride home, knowing how Poch coaches and carries himself, is full of high heads, family love and the desire for more. Today the team proved they can hang with the big boys and although our team hasn't changed much, the mentality of the team has. They continue to grow and with every match, despite the ugly nature of some, we get stronger as a unit; which is the mark of a champion even without the silverware.

Poch - Interesting set up and I understood that it was a reaction to knowing Real would dominate possession and Fernando was there to help release some of that pressure. Didn't really play out that way IMO, but we maintained shape and Poch again shows his ability to adapt.

Lloris - MOTM (b) - Pulled one his best performances out his hat and his distribution wasn't half bad. What a save with his foot.

Serge - B+ - Serge shows why he should be starting ahead of Trippier IMO. He has so much more ability on the ball, defensively and moving forward. Outside his contact with Kross, which we wouldn't have been whining about if he blocked a shot, he was fantastic. Has great shape on his crosses and can get them in early, which is something Walker struggled with.

Sanchez - A - Controlled everything they through at him and is pretty calm on the ball. Best game in the lilywhite.

Dier - A- - Best game this year and for me shows where his true position is. He is strong airily and isn't required to move the ball as much.

Toby - A - He is back in form and for the most part won the majority of his battles with Ronaldo.

Verts - A- - LB isn't his best position and he made it look relatively simple. Dealt with a pacey RB and is 10 years his elder.

Winks - MOTM (A) - So happy for this kid. He is pure class and for me he is a starter even ahead of the beloved Dembele. He makes the ball move and there were multiple times where he made Modric like passes from one side of the pitch to the other. The only player in our CM that can pick a 50 yard pass out via the floor.

Sissoko - A - Great shift and played a very solid game. That heel tho. He still makes me laugh with his heavy touch, but his best game by far.

Eriksen - B - Defensively he covered his ground and held his position but offensively he was anything like the player of the past couple months. That 5 on 2 break where he just sat on the ball was something we haven't seen in awhile. Big stretch of games coming so little rest available, but I he looked tired to me.

Kane - B+ - The way he shook Ramos in the first half made me so happy. He could have given us the 3 pts, but that was a worldy save from Navas. That was going right into the bottom corner...maybe just need a bit more pace. If Eriksen picked his head up on his second half shot, Kane would have had a simple tap in.

Fernando - B - His defense comes in the form of hold up play and honestly, I didn't see much of that all game. He is a presence though and we finally saw it come through in the second half of the second half. He will come in handy, but felt Son could have come on earlier.

Rose - NET - Happy to see that loud mouth back out there honestly. Saw the way he uses his body a couple times and I miss that.

Son - NET - I hope he finds his place soon cause I feel like he is being sacrificed for Sissoko. I personally think Son puts in just as much of a shift defensively and well we know he is that much more effective going forward. Had that late turn on goal that looked to be a classic Son left curler, but blocked in the end.

Overall - A++++ what a performance.

You’ve been looking at the sky sports website too much giving grading markings lol
 

Bus-Conductor

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Oct 19, 2004
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I don't know.
I am genuinely not sure what I have just watched. It was a bizarre team selection, an even stranger tactical set up and the game itself continued that sequence. I would probably need to watch that game another 2 or 3 times to figure out what happened. Were we tactically shrewd, were they tactically poor ? Both ? Neither ? I honestly don't know.

This wasn't a pragmatic masterclass, of that I am sure about, it was more like parking a bus at one end, simultaneously trying to drive a bus through the gates at the other end, and leaving the guy in the middle riding a unicycle up the M1 at rush hour. Whether that was tactical genius or tactical Redknappery, I still honestly don't know.

That game could have ended 3-0 to Spurs, 3-0 to RealM or 3-3, and in those circumstances it's hard to say it was genius.

Right up until Kane's chance, the decision to play Llorente and that structure was looking pretty poor, there was very little joined up play between him and Kane, and playing Son to exploit counter attacks, and link up and compliment Kane would have seemed far more logical to me. Then in quick succession Llorente sets up our two best chances. But I still can't help but feel for most of that game, Son would have been a better choice.

The CM3 was a little bit "Sherwood" for me. Even Real play Casimiro FFS. It didn't really protect our defence at all, completely surrendered control to RM. Not outplaying that Madrid CM 3 is no crime at all, but allowing them so much free, unhindered, possession, could and possibly should have been more fatal, but for the real heroes of that game, the back 5, it could have cost us dearly. Aurier blotted his copy book a little, but in hindsight, thinking about it and watching it again, with Kroos a few yards out and bearing down on goal, I'll give him a mulligan. He wasn't to know Kroos would take a heavy touch and Alderweireld would clear. It was a desperate situation that called for a desperate action, an action he didn't really get right, but hey ho. Him fucking about and trying to dribble out which lost the ball in the first place was less forgivable. That aside, the back 5 were pretty damn good, and saved our arses many times. Young Sanchez deserves a shout as well, good effort from the kid.

Those of us who spent a chunk of last season saying Winks should be getting more starts will chose to say recent events, including tonight, support that theory. But I'm sure those calling us heretics for doubting Poch knows best will no doubt claim Poch new Winks wouldn't be ready until exactly the 8th week of the following season and held him back as part of the masterplan. Pay your money, take your pick. Either way, the boy was pretty good again tonight. I still think he needs to be defensively a little more tenacious and positionally astute, but he's only a few games in, and with the ball he's a breath of fresh air after some of what we've seen in our CM.

Genius, or gung ho ? I really don't know, maybe a bit of both. I think playing a back five was tactically clever, it stopped them getting Marcelo on the ball in those dangerous areas beyond our full backs, and combated the inevitable overloads a team like rm get in attacking areas, I’m just not sure every aspect of the rest of the plan was as clever. But this was a good result, a good night.

Individual

Lloris - Good performance, some good saves.

Aurier - Some not so clever stuff but some decent stuff too.

Sanchez/Dier/TA - Very good games all of them, read danger pretty well, snuffed it out pretty well, and stayed switched on all night in a fiery atmosphere against some great players.

Vertonghen - Another very good performance, defensively mucked in, was calm on the ball when it was needed, and got forward a couple of times well too.

Sissoko - Decent game, good ball for Aurier in the build up to the goal, worked hard.

Winks - Another decent knock. Initiated the goal with a piece of typical desire to move forward and make something happen, worked hard and won't have had a bigger test than this.

Eriksen - Probably the worst I've seen him play in terms of his touch and execution at several important moments. Set pieces were poor too. This was not the set up for him, RM's world class CM3 are way too strong to be sticking him in a CM with Winks and Sissoko. That was never going to get the best out of him and it didn't. He still saw nearly as much ball as Winks, had a hand in Kane's chance, nearly scored himself, and on balance he probably contributed as much as Sissoko and Winks with the ball, but by his high standards it was still a poor performance.

Llorente - I don't know. Just before the Kane and Eriksen chances many, including me were screaming for him to be taken off, we were getting outplayed and having a spare wheel up there doing a Micky Quinn impression wasn't seemingly helping the team cause much, and he wasn't working defensively at all. Then he sets up two great chances.

Kane - Not a great night all in all. I though both he and Llorente could have worked harder without the ball. He pretty much telegraphed where he was putting his shot when clean through too. (Still the save of the game though).
 
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fortworthspur

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Has to be Lloris for MOTM IMO.

Sissoko and Winks stood out for me, with Winks running the offense in the second half.

Eriksen disappointing tonight.

Everyone else did ok. Llorente worked his socks off doing unglamorous but necessary work.
 

thinktank

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Sep 28, 2004
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Hugo - back to his best.

Eriksen - absolutely shocking. He let himself down. He made it look like it was too big an occasion for him, where it should have been one for him to rise to and show the world what he can do on one of its biggest stages, especially having Modric on the pitch opposite him.

Sissoko - :smug:

We drew at the Bernabeu only playing at 70% - gave them a pen and still could have won it. @RM :finger:
 

yusrisafri

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Jun 27, 2004
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The boys must be really proud of their performance.




I would too because its not easy to get a draw against the mighty Spurs.
 

stevenqoz

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As I said elsewhere, Eriksen was directly matched with Modric tonight no shame in being second there. Lloris was world class and shades Toby, Sanchez, Winks and an invigorated Sissoko
 

Wellspurs

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The penalty decisions apart that could have gone either way, the ref had a good game with only one booking. Verts was close to being booked several times.
He let the game flow and to their credit RM didn't do the usual play acting etc
 

EastLondonYid

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Jan 26, 2010
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The fact MOM could have been anyone of 5 shows how well we played.

Hugo my mom but it could have been Winks,Sissoko,Toby,Sanchez or even Aurier pen apart.

Proud so proud....this giant has truly fucking woken.
 

lukespurs7

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Feb 21, 2006
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Hugo - back to his best.

Eriksen - absolutely shocking. He let himself down. He made it look like it was too big an occasion for him, where it should have been one for him to rise to and show the world what he can do on one of its biggest stages, especially having Modric on the pitch opposite him.

Sissoko - :smug:

We drew at the Bernabeu only playing at 70% - gave them a pen and still could have won it. @RM :finger:
Think you and others being very harsh on erisken! Real completely dominated possession and Kane and Llorente aren’t the quickest so it’s hard for him when his n.o1 Job y-day was to hold his shape while the team wait to patiently attack at the right times, when on the few occasions he did get the ball, he didn’t have many options. He did fine, sure not his best game ever but no need for all the criticism!
 

THFCSPURS19

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I don't know.
I am genuinely not sure what I have just watched. It was a bizarre team selection, an even stranger tactical set up and the game itself continued that sequence. I would probably need to watch that game another 2 or 3 times to figure out what happened. Were we tactically shrewd, were they tactically poor ? Both ? Neither ? I honestly don't know.

This wasn't a pragmatic masterclass, of that I am sure about, it was more like parking a bus at one end, simultaneously trying to drive a bus through the gates at the other end, and leaving the guy in the middle riding a unicycle up the M1 at rush hour. Whether that was tactical genius or tactical Redknappery, I still honestly don't know.

That game could have ended 3-0 to Spurs, 3-0 to RealM or 3-3, and in those circumstances it's hard to say it was genius.

Right up until Kane's chance, the decision to play Llorente and that structure was looking pretty poor, there was very little joined up play between him and Kane, and playing Son to exploit counter attacks, and link up and compliment Kane would have seemed far more logical to me. Then in quick succession Llorente sets up our two best chances. But I still can't help but feel for most of that game, Son would have been a better choice.

The CM3 was a little bit "Sherwood" for me. Even Real play Casimiro FFS. It didn't really protect our defence at all, completely surrendered control to RM. Not outplaying that Madrid CM 3 is no crime at all, but allowing them so much free, unhindered, possession, could and possibly should have been more fatal, but for the real heroes of that game, the back 5, it could have cost us dearly. Aurier blotted his copy book a little, but in hindsight, thinking about it and watching it again, with Kroos a few yards out and bearing down on goal, I'll give him a mulligan. He wasn't to know Kroos would take a heavy touch and Alderweireld would clear. It was a desperate situation that called for a desperate action, an action he didn't really get right, but hey ho. Him fucking about and trying to dribble out which lost the ball in the first place was less forgivable. That aside, the back 5 were pretty damn good, and saved our arses many times. Young Sanchez deserves a shout as well, good effort from the kid.

Those of us who spent a chunk of last season saying Winks should be getting more starts will chose to say recent events, including tonight, support that theory. But I'm sure those calling us heretics for doubting Poch knows best will no doubt claim Poch new Winks wouldn't be ready until exactly the 8th week of the following season and held him back as part of the masterplan. Pay your money, take your pick. Either way, the boy was pretty good again tonight. I still think he needs to be defensively a little more tenacious and positionally astute, but he's only a few games in, and with the ball he's a breath of fresh air after some of what we've seen in our CM.

Genius, or gung ho ? I really don't know, maybe a bit of both. I think playing a back five was tactically clever, it stopped them getting Marcelo on the ball in those dangerous areas beyond our full backs, and combated the inevitable overloads a team like rm get in attacking areas, I’m just not sure every aspect of the rest of the plan was as clever. But this was a good result, a good night.

Individual

Lloris - Good performance, some good saves.

Aurier - Some not so clever stuff but some decent stuff too.

Sanchez/Dier/TA - Very good games all of them, read danger pretty well, snuffed it out pretty well, and stayed switched on all night in a fiery atmosphere against some great players.

Vertonghen - Another very good performance, defensively mucked in, was calm on the ball when it was needed, and got forward a couple of times well too.

Sissoko - Decent game, good ball for Aurier in the build up to the goal, worked hard.

Winks - Another decent knock. Initiated the goal with a piece of typical desire to move forward and make something happen, worked hard and won't have had a bigger test than this.

Eriksen - Probably the worst I've seen him play in terms of his touch and execution at several important moments. Set pieces were poor too. This was not the set up for him, RM's world class CM3 are way too strong to be sticking him in a CM with Winks and Sissoko. That was never going to get the best out of him and it didn't. He still saw nearly as much ball as Winks, had a hand in Kane's chance, nearly scored himself, and on balance he probably contributed as much as Sissoko and Winks with the ball, but by his high standards it was still a poor performance.

Llorente - I don't now. Just before the Kane and Eriksen chances many, including me were screaming for him to be taken off, we were getting outplayed and having a spare wheel up there doing a Micky Quinn impression wasn't seemingly helping the team cause much, and he wasn't working defensively at all. Then he sets up two great chances.

Kane - Not a great night all in all. I though both he and Llorente could have worked harder without the ball. He pretty much telegraphed where he was putting his shot when clean through too. (Still the save of the game though).
I was looking forward to your post, turns out you praised us more when we scraped past Bournemouth at home.
 

Japhet

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Great performances all over the pitch. Lloris with 2 fantastic saves, Dier full of pssion, Verts cool as they come. Winks looked totally at home and unphased, Sanchez like a rock. Llorente with some great hold up play and lay offs to create chances. Eriksen not at his best but ran himself ragged. Sissoko like a bull. My MOM is Toby Alderweireld though. Kept it all together and controlled our backline under intense pressure.
 

Gb160

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The penalty decisions apart that could have gone either way, the ref had a good game with only one booking. Verts was close to being booked several times.
He let the game flow and to their credit RM didn't do the usual play acting etc
Even Marca are saying we should've had a penalty in the first half.
 
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