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Arsenal vs Tottenham: NLD Match Thread
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shelfboy68
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We have been a top six side since 2004/05 and yet our record hasn't improved in those game's, I hear what your saying but lesser teams than us have had results at those grounds in more recent times than us.
However it's pointless arguing over it as all of us both included can find arguments to fit the narrative.
paulcumpstone
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You set up with a midfield pair of dembele and sissoko and all the top 6 will murder you.still baffles me why we sent onomah on lone.he was ahead of sissoko last year and clearly has better technique required for these sort of games.
Some on here just run after whatever stick the tabloid press chucks.
Has anyone been watching Sunday Supplement? It's good to see Samuel sitting close to his glove puppet, Ashton, but the line-up is a disaster as far as Spurs is concerned. What did the pricks have to say? They haven't mentioned Sherwood for the Wales job, but thought Giggs should be manager for his country; but this is Giggs who always pulled out of Wales games.
I note that Samuel is eating a pain au chocolat, not the best thing for a man of his corpulence to be choosing. Just for a change, they are slagging off Silva, because he's a foreign manager. Still no mention of Sherwood for Everton.
Well, Shearer and Neville were on, both agreed that the first goal was from a foul that didn't happen and that it was offside. For the second, Shearer did not think it was offside; I think in real time, it was tight, but Hugo would have saved it. You then had the usual crap about us not winning away. Here're the caveats, as far as I'm concerned: the losses at ManU and Goonerville were prior to major, decisive games in the CL; we had major players missing, and they played to their maximum; the whole game was turned on that first goal.
Has anyone been watching Sunday Supplement? It's good to see Samuel sitting close to his glove puppet, Ashton, but the line-up is a disaster as far as Spurs is concerned. What did the pricks have to say? They haven't mentioned Sherwood for the Wales job, but thought Giggs should be manager for his country; but this is Giggs who always pulled out of Wales games.
I note that Samuel is eating a pain au chocolat, not the best thing for a man of his corpulence to be choosing. Just for a change, they are slagging off Silva, because he's a foreign manager. Still no mention of Sherwood for Everton.
Clearly, Poch disagrees with you. I'm going with Poch on this one.
You realise that over that twenty years we have been playing catch up. Try putting a bit of context into your arguments. We tend not to lose away, which is what is important given that we tend to win at home. The trajectory is what is important.
Not a lot, because they played very well defensively. Some of our players were off key.Dominated the ball and did what with it
slartibartfast
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You realise if we'd won yesterday it wouldn't have made any difference to our shit record there for the previous 20 years.
We were miles behind them back then and we can't change history.
The fact is Arsenal are a bloody good team despite what their fickle fans and the media would have you believe.
They were at home.
Its very difficult to get a win away at any of these top 5 teams and on their day they're all capable of beating the opposition whoever they are.
We are up there with them now but we lost this one.
We were never gonna bowl up and steamroller them in their own back yard. Well it was bloody unlikely anyway.
I think what really sticks in the throat was it was a poor performance.
Too many players not match fit and I feel the international break did Arsenal more of a favour than it did us. We were on a roll. Didn't really wanna stop for a fkin fortnight break. Arsenal were probably glad to take a break and take stock.
Thats Chelsea we've had first game at Wembley and now Arsenal away after a 2 week break. Lucky buggers arent we.
Long way to go yet and I still think we'll get top 4 which would be amazing as we're at Wembley but its gonna be tight. Very tight.
Shadydan
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Dominated the ball and did what with it
Nothing but I don't understand your point?
worcestersauce
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I take it all back, I have just seen the highlights for the first time and the referee did affect the result. Mike Dean's decision was disgraeful, it was completely totally and utterly wrong, Davinson's tackle was brilliant, an example of a great defending tackle.
For Dean to say he pulled Sanchez' shirt means he saw something that didn't happen, there was no debate or discussion to be had, it just didn't happen and yes it was compounded by the incompetence of the linesman because it was clearly offside.
I am also puzzled as to why some people blamed Lloris for the second goal, he was off balance and couldn't have saved that shot, if it had been six inches lower he would have but no keeper would have saved that goal.
From then on their tails were up and our injuries and weaknesses prevented us from getting back into it.
For Dean to say he pulled Sanchez' shirt means he saw something that didn't happen, there was no debate or discussion to be had, it just didn't happen and yes it was compounded by the incompetence of the linesman because it was clearly offside.
I am also puzzled as to why some people blamed Lloris for the second goal, he was off balance and couldn't have saved that shot, if it had been six inches lower he would have but no keeper would have saved that goal.
From then on their tails were up and our injuries and weaknesses prevented us from getting back into it.
riggi
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It's the sort of pointless stat that will and probably has gotten into the players heads (and club). They just need to do it. Since 2011 we have been more than capable of getting or nicking a result at Stamford bridge for example. I still get pissed of with the " battle of the bridge " shite. We could of won that game and phycologically it would of done wonders for the club.
I'm not losing my shit over the result yesterday. I always thought they would beat us and that we would beat them at Wembley. Stamford bridge, like I said before, is the biggest test this season unless we get into a final.
We were for ed to because that's arsenal's game. But that is why Sissoko started. To play on the counter
Wheeler Dealer
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Onomah has had mixed reviews from Villa... Probably too inconsistant to hold down a starting berth here at the moment. Winks on the other hand is a model of consistancy and has taken his chance.
Spurs fans really need to stop this. It's not Dean's fault we were crap. It's not his fault we couldnt hold on to the ball, attack, or play defense. It's not his fault we were getting skinned alive all game. We lost fair and square. Arsenal came to play and they showed heart. They wanted it. Spurs did not show up, did not want it and showed a disturbing lack of heart.
Poch disagrees witn the obvious regarding Onomah. Onomah is not an AM, contrary to Poch's belief. He is a CM
Trix
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I know most of the players were below par yesterday, but for me the defeat on enlarge was down to Poch Imo. I think he got it wrong both tactically and personnel wise(players not fully fit).
I am also concerned about the signing of Llorente. I thought it was a great bit of business when we brougt him in, giving us both a great back up option and also an effective plan B. If however we are at no point going to play at least in part to his strengths then what is the point in playing him? When we have the likes of Trippier, Davies(much improved delivery) and Eriksen on the pitch I have no idea why we are not getting it wide and whipping in crosses for FL. It just doesn't make sense to keep trying to go through the middle on the deck when he is such a dominant aerial threat.
I am also concerned about the signing of Llorente. I thought it was a great bit of business when we brougt him in, giving us both a great back up option and also an effective plan B. If however we are at no point going to play at least in part to his strengths then what is the point in playing him? When we have the likes of Trippier, Davies(much improved delivery) and Eriksen on the pitch I have no idea why we are not getting it wide and whipping in crosses for FL. It just doesn't make sense to keep trying to go through the middle on the deck when he is such a dominant aerial threat.
shelfboy68
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Exactly and that is why I referenced your point for the same reason mate.
BujuBanton
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Stop using the ref as an excuse for our defeat. The ref made two mistakes. We made 90mins worth.
It was an embarrassment, wrong team selection, unfit players, pathetic effort from all from the 1st minute to the last.
And against those ****s. Fucking fuming.
It was an embarrassment, wrong team selection, unfit players, pathetic effort from all from the 1st minute to the last.
And against those ****s. Fucking fuming.
Shadydan
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Nope, we were playing a high line with a half assed attempt at pressing them, Sissoko was there to provide some forward impetus but we were most definitely not playing on the counter.
Ionman34
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I think it’s worth remembering that this Arsenal team is the one that prevented Chelsea winning the double last year, a Chelsea team that put virtually everyone to the sword last season. When they’re up for it, they’re capable of putting in a high quality performance. Unfortunately we got them on one of their “can be bothered” days. Their problem is that they’re flakey and inconsistent. In this game, it appears that Wenger managed to impress on them the importance of a NLD. It’s been a complaint, from both fans and pundits, that this goon team didn’t understand the importance, well they got it yesterday. Credit needs to go where it is due too, tactically Wenger got it spot on and exposed our weaknesses, help from the officials notwithstanding.
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