Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

LexingtonSpurs

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Watch the play - the ball has gone under Sanchez' left leg. As a keeper, you can't anticipate that. Lloris' responsibility is near post, and he is set for what he expects is a near-post shot.

Rondon shoulders Sanchez off balance - but there is nothing Lloris can do about that at that point - he is committed to the near post (and if Lloris played for the far post, it would have been an easy shot near post.)

Rondon made a good play, and the ball looked easy to save, but there wasn't anything Lloris would/should do differently in an identical situation. Defender takes the far post, Keeper takes the near post.

 

Spurrific

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He has to take a couple steps to the right to get down to that and he had time to do that, he actually had time to run down the tunnel, complete the Times crossword and make his way back on the pitch and still get down to it. IMO, he could have easily got to that. It's so fucking slow. I've no idea how you lot can think that's unsaveable, it's one of the tamest goals I've seen us concede for a while. You've both obviously played as goalkeepers to a high level though, so I know nothing in comparison.

Look how close to it Dier gets compared to Lloris, who had a better angle and was closer to it. He just did that thing goalkeepers do and stood still because he was already beaten in his mind. If that's an unstoppable shot, I should be a professional footballer.

 

Charly***

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Spurrific said:

Lloris could have done much better with it. It was literally in slow motion. In my opinion, there are a load of keepers in the league that would have got to it.

I absolutely adore Lloris and wouldn't swap him for anybody, fwiw, he was just turd for that goal.

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He's a reaction keeper, they find it easier when the ball's coming at them at pace.

 

WiganSpur

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mattbrakeuk said:

No chance any keeper in the world is saving that, unless he was incorrectly positioned in the first place. Number one rule in that situation is to cover your near post, the fact that Sanchez didn't do his job and make it impossible for Rondon to play it across the goal isn't Lloris' fault. It looks soft because the ball was moving slowly but unless you've got a keeper who's 7'5" and as agile as a cat it's going in every time.

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It's not that he could have reached it with his hands. He just stood there and the ball took an age to go over the line. I actually think he could have sprinted towards it in time.

 

Mattspur

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Was that really deserving of a red card?

I thought he just tried to get his arm across the attacker and accidently caught him in the face. There was no aggressive movement from Sanchez. I hope we appeal it.

 

theShiznit

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Mattspur said:

Was that really deserving of a red card?

I thought he just tried to get his arm across the attacker and accidently caught him in the face. There was no aggressive movement from Sanchez. I hope we appeal it.

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That's how I saw it, Sanchez saw the guy had the run on him and tried to block him off, unfortunately his arm was a bit high and made it look worse than it was. Talk of clotheslining and the like are way off the mark.

 

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Dzejkob

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Yeah he tried to block him with his hand but unfortunetly he hit his face with an elbow. It wasnt intended but it was clear red.

 

nicdic

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Unfortunate, clearly not intentional, but completely understandable decision by the ref, unlike most of the others in the game.

 

stevenurse

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I don't think it would be unreasonable to appeal it. If it's successful or not only time will tell but it looked more of a block than an intentional elbow.

Some of the posters on here would make you think he'd shot him they way they were talking. It's certainly no Ben Thatcher on Pedro Mendes.

 

cozzo

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We should appeal it as its clear that it wasn't an intentional elbow. He just tried to put his arm across him.

 

Japhet

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An 'elbow' in my book is a bent arm and a backward motion making contact via the elbow. This incident was a straight arm across the player with no elbowing motion. If this incident is treated as a proper elbow, any incident where a player comes onto contact with a knuckle should be regarded as a punch, even if it's a brush with the back of the hand.

 

longtimespur

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Was annoyed with the Watford managers. He really remonstrated with the 4th official a bit too much.
IMHO it was a silly foul that was high and caught Richarlson on the shoulder initially then the throat as they ran side by side.
Was it a red? Maybe, but I couldn't say it was intentional or malicious.

 

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punkisback

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If it was someone like Terry/Cahill doing it the commentary would have been "JT using his experience there" and the ref letting them off.

 

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Hopefully lesson learnt. The curve can be a little steep though.

 

Cavehillspur

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Only seen the incident last night for the first time and after hearing the Sky panel on Saturday I was expecting it to be a lot worse - very harsh red for me, I would be appealing that.

 

Cavehillspur

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punkisback said:

If it was someone like Terry/Cahill doing it the commentary would have been "JT using his experience there" and the ref letting them off.

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So true

 

mattie g

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It's the old "He gave the referee the chance to make a decision" thing. It wasn't a horrible foul, but it was one that can be argued should be a red card. Maybe 70/30 no red to red, but it was an understandable decision by the referee, even if we didn't like it.

 

stevenurse

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That **** dermot Gallagher insisting its a definite red card...

As @punkisback mentioned, it would be called "experience" if it were a good old fashioned British centre back. But because it's a fancy Dan forriner, it's reckless, aggressive and deserves a red.

I really hope Poch himself learns that he needs to play this sly little devious game too. These sort of decisions can cost you valuable points come the end of the season.

That said, we really got away with the Dier handball

 

thekneaf

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Sanchez can use the time off to learn how to pull a shirt effectively, or my favourite, the cynical cuddle.

 

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coys200

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He needed a rest tbh. Been non stop for the guy since arriving including x3 trips back to Columbia. Wasn’t intentional but was a red for me,much like Pogba. You forget he’s 21 sometimes.