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  • Lloris

    Votes: 24 10.9%
  • Trippier

    Votes: 4 1.8%
  • Dier

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Verts

    Votes: 35 15.9%
  • Rose

    Votes: 17 7.7%
  • Dembele

    Votes: 3 1.4%
  • Winks

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 12 5.5%
  • Son

    Votes: 3 1.4%
  • Dele

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Kane

    Votes: 7 3.2%
  • Lamela

    Votes: 49 22.3%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 2 0.9%
  • Davies

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 1.8%
  • None Deserved

    Votes: 59 26.8%

  • Total voters
    220

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
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There’s a few for me in our team doing just this at the moment not just Danny he’s just the only one that’s honestly enough to say it FairPlay to him.

Dier

Dele....they are all doing something exactly the same

Where's be planning on getting a move to?? West Ham?
 

waresy

Well-Known Member
Mar 22, 2004
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Dembele is done. He’s on decline. ...
Dembele 3 - I’m sorry but his best days are gone it’s time to put this dog down.
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Dembele; 4. Clearly in decline now, off the pace and gives away too many fouls.

I know this looks like a Dembele bashing and I didn't see the game today other than the first 35-40 mins, however, in the first half against Stoke last week I turned to my Dad and said that Moussa looks like he is spent. The 2nd half he perked up but I'm really concerned that he is a spent force. Too many silly fouls where he can't get there quick enough and no where near the force he was.

A real shame if this is the case
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
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Do not care what anybody says there is obviously something massively wrong behind the scenes or with this team at the moment we are carrying 4-5 passengers but poch is hands are tied it looks like.
At the end of the day, if anyone doesn't wanna be here they can do one, as far as I'm concerned.

I'd take 100mil from RM for Alli for starters
 

agrdavidsfan

Ledley's Knee!
Aug 25, 2005
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At the end of the day, if anyone doesn't wanna be here they can do one, as far as I'm concerned.

I'd take 100mil from RM for Alli for starters

You are 100% right Dele for bale for me I would do it.

Bale at his worst is still better than what Dele is giving us
 

SugarRay

Well-Known Member
Jul 6, 2011
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Thought it was actually Rose best game for us since coming back. Doesn't say much, but he did make some great last inch tackles to make the score less embarrassing.

What I love about Rose is, he stands up to be counted. He had a few dodgy moments tonight but he was still there making it count and doing some great things. He can never ever be accused of going in to his shell ( he doesn’t even have one to go in to! ) or feeling sorry for himself. I’d say he’s one of the few “winners” in our squad.
 

agrdavidsfan

Ledley's Knee!
Aug 25, 2005
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13,352
He used to have much more energy and life to his game...what are the odds he'll recover that once he's there....


To be honest if levy was brave...I think it’s time to make a statement fuck them all off.

Then simply say we are no longer prepared to do it. Pay the new stadium off and make sure from there on it’s no more silly shit.
 

agrdavidsfan

Ledley's Knee!
Aug 25, 2005
10,918
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What I love about Rose is, he stands up to be counted. He had a few dodgy moments tonight but he was still there making it count and doing some great things. He can never ever be accused of going in to his shell ( he doesn’t even have one to go in to! ) or feeling sorry for himself. I’d say he’s one of the few “winners” in our squad.

Least he’s honest enough to tell us the truth
 

Trix

Well-Known Member
Jul 29, 2004
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What’s embarrassing is Tottenham supporters who think we are embarrassing

Man City are possibly the best team in Europe playing at home and at the top of there game

We are nowhere near our best with 2 central defenders missing.
Wanyama is also injured and Dembele is miles away from being up to it in big games
Rose is also trying to regain fitness

What was very disappointing was to give them a very soft goal from a corner

Really unfortunate that Dembele is struggling so much. Might just about be able to hold his own v Stoke & Joe Allen but not Kevin De Bruyne!! ( was a horror show today)


Let’s move on

Mate it's not the result that's the issue. It was our performance both individually and as a team that the fans are pissed off at.

Clearly not focused, causing too many basic mistakes.
Lack of effort from some of them.
Poor tactically and no attempt to address the issues that were so clear from the first ten minutes.

City are a great team no doubt about it, but we sure did help them today. They could have had 6-7 had Sterling had his shooting boots on.
 

parj

NDombelly ate all the pies
Jul 27, 2003
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What a shit performance but to say Winks is done is a fcuking joke. None of our players are done. Why are they done? Wanyama is our midfield general with Dembele being the ball carrier. Dier is Wanyama's replacement and Winks is Dembele's. We have the odd one out in midfield because Dier is covering for Toby so we have two ball carriers in midfield and you can see neither knows which is doing which.

Nobody is done. We have a massive hole in central midfield. In January need a midfield general.

Lamela, Son and Kane were the only players that tried to take on players regularly. But we have to move the fcuking ball quicker. That is team mentality. The players need to provide options. That is team mentality. We need to let Lloris clear the fcuking ball to danger areas so we don't invite pressure. That's team tactics.

None of our players are done. They just need to fcuking wake up. But I'll tell you what, only 3 players have desire right now. Poch needs to fix that ASAP!
 

lukespurs7

Well-Known Member
Feb 21, 2006
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Sorry but here are the home truths

Lloris 5 - some excellent camera saves but 2 soft bits of keeping for sterling and the de brunye goals

Trippier 0 - not good enough for this level we need to sell I’m sorry. He’s really dreadful against top opposition

Dier 4 - his head is not in a Tottenham shirt it’s as simple as that. Brilliant until the second half where he gave up on his team mates and himself.

Vertonghen 6 - the only player to try

Rose 5 - he tried more than some but least he’s honest enough to tell us he wants out as he can see it for what it is!

Dembele 3 - I’m sorry but his best days are gone it’s time to put this dog down.

Tom Carroll..oh sorry Harry Winks 3 - out of his depth from the moment the team sheet got announced simply not good enough and hugely overrated by all our fan base in reality within 3 years he will be playing for a hull etc, unless we slip back to mediocrity as that’s the only way he belongs in this team.

Eriksen 2 - from the get go he pranced about was like a fairy in every single 50/50 since that World Cup break something weird has gone on with him.

Son 2 - he tried but there’s nothing really he can do at fault for the gundogan goal as he left him run.

#Dele20 0 - fuck off mate you haven’t made it yet! Although you and your entourage seem to think you have he’s in real danger of his whole bubble bursting. Would have done us as a team a favour if he seen red as that’s the only way poch is leaving him out.

Kane 5 - don’t let your love for this club cloud your judgement wnd hold your career back you deserve trophies.

Poch 0 - more stubborn than AVB his inept ability to make changes or rest players is a joke....how on gods green earth did he not sub Trippier off?!

Lamela - first name on the team sheet for now for me

Agree with nearly all of this except criticism of winks, I think against Real Madrid and Liverpool he has shown the potential he has. Man City play 3 vs 2 in there so it was always going to be difficult, they press so so well and all or players looked poor today as a result as they had no options to pass.

I’m conceded about:
Trippier - agree not good enough for us and this isn’t knee jerk, like you say always shown up against top quality opposition
Dier - attitude looked poor like you say, worried his head is in man.utd
Rose - also head in man.utd
Jan - getting on a bit now
Dembele - looks like he’s on the decline, he’s not dominated one game this year like he used to
Eriksen - just not himself, but did ok
Dele - Head has gone this season, mabye he wants to move or being effected by outside people
Kane - worried that when we get beaten they badly by man.city and don’t even compete that his head may start to get turned as he wants to win things and as much as he wants to be loyal if he gets to 26/27 yrs old and hasn’t won anything and we don’t look very very close to doing so and closing the gap then sorry but I think he will leave.

Then there is poch, he got it wrong today.
 

lukespurs7

Well-Known Member
Feb 21, 2006
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What a shit performance but to say Winks is done is a fcuking joke. None of our players are done. Why are they done? Wanyama is our midfield general with Dembele being the ball carrier. Dier is Wanyama's replacement and Winks is Dembele's. We have the odd one out in midfield because Dier is covering for Toby so we have two ball carriers in midfield and you can see neither knows which is doing which.

Nobody is done. We have a massive hole in central midfield. In January need a midfield general.

Lamela, Son and Kane were the only players that tried to take on players regularly. But we have to move the fcuking ball quicker. That is team mentality. The players need to provide options. That is team mentality. We need to let Lloris clear the fcuking ball to danger areas so we don't invite pressure. That's team tactics.

None of our players are done. They just need to fcuking wake up. But I'll tell you what, only 3 players have desire right now. Poch needs to fix that ASAP!
So true. This is what is more worrying.
We don’t look as much of a team this year.
 

olliec

Well-Known Member
Jun 20, 2012
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I do wonder if Rose, Dier and Alli are unbalancing the dressing room though. It's clear they want to leave.
 

agrdavidsfan

Ledley's Knee!
Aug 25, 2005
10,918
13,352
Agree with nearly all of this except criticism of winks, I think against Real Madrid and Liverpool he has shown the potential he has. Man City play 3 vs 2 in there so it was always going to be difficult, they press so so well and all or players looked poor today as a result as they had no options to pass.

I’m conceded about:
Trippier - agree not good enough for us and this isn’t knee jerk, like you say always shown up against top quality opposition
Dier - attitude looked poor like you say, worried his head is in man.utd
Rose - also head in man.utd
Jan - getting on a bit now
Dembele - looks like he’s on the decline, he’s not dominated one game this year like he used to
Eriksen - just not himself, but did ok
Dele - Head has gone this season, mabye he wants to move or being effected by outside people
Kane - worried that when we get beaten they badly by man.city and don’t even compete that his head may start to get turned as he wants to win things and as much as he wants to be loyal if he gets to 26/27 yrs old and hasn’t won anything and we don’t look very very close to doing so and closing the gap then sorry but I think he will leave.

Then there is poch, he got it wrong today.

Not just today for me Winks it’s the last few games
 

lukespurs7

Well-Known Member
Feb 21, 2006
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Mate it's not the result that's the issue. It was our performance both individually and as a team that the fans are pissed off at.

Clearly not focused, causing too many basic mistakes.
Lack of effort from some of them.
Poor tactically and no attempt to address the issues that were so clear from the first ten minutes.

City are a great team no doubt about it, but we sure did help them today. They could have had 6-7 had Sterling had his shooting boots on.
This.

absolutley no issue losing to them, they’re a class outfit but the individual mistakes + tactical and selection errors from poch + a few players with pore attitudes in my opinion (dier,dele,rose) this is more worrying.

We should be competing a lot better than that.
 
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