Man City v Spurs: Do they know it's match thread time at all

dondo said:

Imo when the stadium is built we will be sold , it’s been the Enic plan for years

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Hope so. Then maybe we'll have owners that actually want to win trophies.

TURKISH69 said:

Under Levy and Lewis that will not happen they are all about not paying the wages and making massive profit . Look back when we get in Europe, when get in champions league , when we get in new stadium what I'm saying is it's always an excuse why they don't buy top players and pay the wages. Because they want to make profit and not ambition. That is just my opinion I just hope when the stadium is built. The Enic regime sell the club to someone who wants Tottenham Hotspur to compete with the top clubs and have ambition to win trophies. Proof of that is our aweful wage structure is but there excuse is the new stadium etc always an excuse. Thirty million wasted on Sissoko that could of pay top dollar to players who deserve it I.e Kane , Toby!! I fear for us going in to the new stadium.

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They key point you make is this:
30million on bang average Sissoko - should have been spent on wages for the top dogs. That simple. And it still baffles me that we don't operate like that.
If your top player (Kane) is on 100k a month - that's near on 5 million a year....relative to a 30million blow out on Sissoko - it doesn't make sense.

JUSTINSIGNAL said:

These reactions are funny. Poch has lost it. Eriksen is shit. Alli is shit. Dembele’s legs have gone. Dier needs to be sold Trippier not good enough. Winks not at the level.

I’m 100% certain there will be collective amnesia when we beat Burnley

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Inevitable considering how good we've been at defending set pieces this season...

We played against a team bang in form, without crucial players and having to fit in off-form players. That said, I don't think Trippier is the answer on the right. We seemed to have lacked discipline, including tactically.

JUSTINSIGNAL said:

These reactions are funny. Poch has lost it. Eriksen is shit. Alli is shit. Dembele’s legs have gone. Dier needs to be sold Trippier not good enough. Winks not at the level.

I’m 100% certain there will be collective amnesia when we beat Burnley

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If we beat Burnley, they are no push overs.

rossdapep said:

Not all of them, no. But the one's that are tapped up by City just might.

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If you are tapped up by City and want to go this result won't make any difference, we beat them last year and Walker still went.
I think some fans are allowing their paranoia get the better of them.

Sweetsman said:

That's because this is Idiotsville.

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Yep. You would find more rational opinions watching Arsenal TV

ebzrascal said:

Why didn`t do what we did against Madrid away... Llorente up top longer balls with Kane playing off him.. Strong midfield

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I just don't get what Poch was trying to do. It was insane. We were basically trapping ourselves in our own half and leaving Kane up top virtually on his own. Which is the exact opposite of what you need to do against City. We were trying to play through the midfield with 2 against three and Winks who although is decent, is not Wanyama

spursfan77 said:

I knew we'd line up like against Stoke. It was obvious. Poch needs to have a rethink in these big games away from home. There's no shame going there looking for a draw and not a win. Especially not today.

Can I caveat that with I hate I've written that because I want to win every game.

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Mate I agree 100% ,why can't we park the bus like the 'wee teams' and see what develops instead of going toe to toe and being mauled, we've suffered defeats like today's plenty of times over the year's and its always bourne from our insistence to go to top teams and try to out football them,will we ever learn.

Setzthree said:

please dont put any blame on the ref

we got outclassed

simple

edit: we should've had 2 reds

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I'm just glad that the ref booked them in both instances otherwise there may be further retrospective punishments.

Metalhead said:

Levy has had a plan though and unlike the Sugar era, it does feel like we have pushed on. Whenever I think back to those days, I feel better.

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Yeah completely agree they were dark times. Over the last 10 yrs there been some amazing times. But they do not want to push to the next level because that means top players and wages. Something that always sticks with me that backs up what I'm getting at. The season we qualified for the knock out stages of champions league, going into xmas we were flying 2nd in the league. We needed some additional back up to keep us going in the January transfer window that season. Instead of getting a top striker to keep us on track we get Saha and Nelson on frees rest my case that's the ambition of Levy and Lewis shocking.Things haven't really changed that much when we've been going strong over the last two seasons we never strengthened in January when going for the league. Because we never had the strenght in depth when we needed it most. We will never be that close to winning the prem for a decade I'm afraid flogged it.

ebzrascal said:

Why didn`t do what we did against Madrid away... Llorente up top longer balls with Kane playing off him.. Strong midfield

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Posted in the week that we would've started llorente, and set up like Madrid. Still think that was the best option.

It’s a weird one because if we had played like this against Real Madrid and been comprehensively beaten we would have accepted it as being schooled by Europe’s best.

That is what happened but it’s harder to take from a team on your doorstep.

We aren’t at their level - we probably never will be because they’re a very expensive set of players of which most are also enjoying the best form of their lives.

Let’s not spit the dummy out... 5 years ago this was a regular occurrence.

I am just going to forget this game. First time we have lost to City in a while and it just balances out the 4-1 win we had a couple of years ago. We will be better

thebenjamin said:

Posted in the week that we would've started llorente, and set up like Madrid. Still think that was the best option.

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Don`t think we started Lorente and Kane playing off him.. Plus against Madrid we played 5 in midfield and the main issue was lack of pace and intensity in the midfield we were second to every ball

luka loopy said:

It’s a weird one because if we had played like this against Real Madrid and been comprehensively beaten we would have accepted it as being schooled by Europe’s best.

That is what happened but it’s harder to take from a team on your doorstep.

We aren’t at their level - we probably never will be because they’re a very expensive set of players of which most are also enjoying the best form of their lives.

Let’s not spit the dummy out... 5 years ago this was a regular occurrence.

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A lot of their players weren’t 50m, 100m, 200m
Yes they have spent big but so have other clubs. Yanited dont play football like that

King of Otters said:

Wonder if @StartingPrice thinks we're still in the title race?

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No.

In fairness to myself, I did say after the equally dispiriting display at the Emirates that what tiny little chance we had was totally and utterly gone.

In even more fairness to myself, what I had been saying from very early on in the season was that City were clear, clear favourites, and our chance was a very slight chance.

I find it interesting that whenever we have a poor, dispiriting display the first thought of certain posters is to think of digging someone out who made a more positive prognosis than they did.

It is equally interesting that they never think of digging out the things that those same posters got right. Like, for instance, I was the only one (so far as I know) who predicted way back at the start of the 2009/10 season that we would finish above Liverpool and in the top four. I got a lot of abuse for it - but funnily enough, when it happened no-one ever apologised or tagged me to say I was right. Every season after that I said we would finish above Liverpool and explained why it was happening - I got abuse and whinged at for writing long posts (necessary for complex explanations, I'm afraid). No-one wanted to apologise or tag me for the seven seasons out of eight I was right. Funnily enough, when I explained that United was a poisoned chalice and they would struggle for three or four seasons I got abuse for suggesting such a preposterous thing - but no-one tagged me to apologise or point out that I was right. Indeed, way back in 2005 or 2006 I suggested that the days of the Sky Four were numbered, there would likely be a top five or six and we would be part of it. You guessed it...no tagging to say I was right. Again, I said after our CC final appearance under Poch that we had the basis of the best squad since Burkinshaw's days, if not before. A lot of folk were saying it by the end of last season - did anyone tag me or link to my posts saying it? No.

The issue I have with the ultra negatives is that it is so easy. We could all just say, we will be lucky to finish eighth because, guess what, if it is wrong, as it has been every season for the last eight, you can just smile and say you are so pleased you were wrong. When you actually predict anything positive, based on actually thinking about things, you get abuse at the time, the negatives are too busy being happy to be wrong to actually go back and apologise, or (heaven forbid) actually offer some praise, that you were right. But, hell, a bad performance, a bad result, a bad patch, a disappointing conclusion to the season and they are falling over themselves to call you out.

Well done, just like the charming falla when we lost at the Emirates, I was actually quite despondent about that performance too. Not the result, the performance. There is so much is much missing that was the hallmark of Poch's squad since he first arrived, that is now just unimaginative passing about at the back and dithering. So, yeah, I really needed you to point out that I didn't anticipate Dembélé is basically a liability now for being a split second slower at everything that made him great even last season, that Eriksen has called a halt to his season after Ireland, Dele has taken a sabbatical, that Rose has come back a bag of shite, that Lamela would take longer than anticipated to get back, that Victor and Toby would both miss a huge stretch of the season...

Cheers M8, have a good 'un

Which players do you guys feel are not good enough to play for Spurs?
For me it’s Trippier, Sissoko and Nkoudou

And which players would you be okay with to sell?
Trippier, Sissoko, Rose, Nkoudou and Llorente for me. Dembele is finished, he can barely walk anymore but I want him to be some sort of helping player manager for us (will never happen just a idea)

Any news on dressing room punch-ups yet ... Or did we sneak out and hide on the bus ?

Dele seems to be on an extended period of poor form. Time for Poch to man up and drop or rotate him from the starting eleven for the next few games. Start with Son and/or Lamela and let Dele come on in the second half when one of them starts to tire or if needed to change the game. At least Dele would be a better sub then seeing Sissoko come on to try and change the game.