Adebayor never got 20 plus premiership goals. Kane is in a different class
VDV is not a striker
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VDV is not a striker
He only played 10 games.
If Poch is that good how come he can't help sissoko.
Give Kane the credit he has it naturally
dontcallme
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You don’t know the difference between helping and mentoring a 21 year old with little experience to coaching a 28 year old?
I am beyond bored of you, I hope for your sake you are a troll and not being genuine
Bale was not a striker.
I will give AVB credit when he changed Bales position Bale started flying but you could see that Bale was a natural finisher.
A Coach can help improve a Player but give the player credit it is him doing the work.
Ok so what about GKN
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What about him?
You sound like your implying that without Poch Kane would not be A top striker under another Manager.
So I am asking if Poch is that influential why does his influence not work with GKN.
Pochettino simply has to win something with this squad or ultimately he has failed. There is no question Kane is now the best out and out striker in world football. Just let that sink in the best striker in world football plays for our club and is worth circa £200m. We have 3 of the best CBs in world football. One of the most highly rated young players in dele. A total class act in Eriksen. And numerous other quality players. I’m sorry but by end of next season if Poch hasn’t won anything even if we are still in top 4 then you just have to wonder if he has what it takes to get over the line. I honestly still have no idea if he walked into a perfect storm of players or created it. The improvement is obvious and I have no idea what you do if we are still trophyless in 18 months.
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We are always 2-3 squad players short - top squads have 22 players capable of playing 1st team football at a top 4 standard with 5 absolutely top class players.
We have a good first 11(although Aurier is debatable) then we have Son, Lamela, Dier, Davies pushing them hard.
Trippier, Winks and Vorm who are probably currently below the necessary standard (although I think Winks will improve and GK is less important in this situation.)
Sissoko, Llorente and N'Koudou have not shown themselves to be good enough thus far, although perhaps Sissoko gets into the bracket above.
If we signed Zaha, Barkley and another high level player with the potential to improve and keep the rest together we may be there or there about, but the issue we have had is that we don't cope well with injuries and loss of form and that by extension oftentimes we don't have enough on the bench to come on and win tight games. In particular I would highlight that we don't have enough pace in the side. Although pace is of course is not the be all an end all, it is a very useful weapon to have in your armoury, notice how effective Sane and Sterling have been for City.
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I don't think I ever said he was tactically very poor... however I would question his tactics away from home against the big teams... that is where most people will accept we have made the least progress under him
Ya.. dead on..kanes work rate , discipline and ddesire are second to none.. if anything sherwood deserves a little bit of credit for giving kane an opportunity towards the End of his season in charge..kane would be a top class player under any manager imo
Yes, he recovered Jans form but let’s remember that in his first season, Jan was brilliant.
From what I’m reading here, peoples complaints suggest he’s an average coach yet a top manager. Tactically naive etc, yet can get players working for him and improving their performances. That’s what a good manager does, in any work environment.
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As with any manager, questions can be asked their abilities but you are harshly questioning things people regularly come out and praise him for.
We have been tactically setup to be one of the strongest defensive units in the country - the strongest one last year i believe. Is that luck? How many goals did we score last year too? How about our pressing game when it is on point? Or us being able to switch between 3 or 4 different formations from game to game?
This is the most tactically astute Spurs team i have known in my 30 odd years of support.
Obviously you are entitled to your opinion, i just have no idea in this instance what you are basing it on.
For e.g. we are chasing leicester if we won against Arsenal I believe if memory serves me correct we would of went top of the league. Were winning 2-1 LAMELA WAS KEEPING SANCHEZ QUIET Arsenal went down to 10 men Lamela got a yellow Poch took him off and bought on Ryan mason ( End of season Ryan Mason sold to Hull no disrespect to Hull or Ryan but if he was that good I am sure he would of got a better Team). Maybe Poch was scared Lamela would get another yellow. Lo and behold Sanchez pops up and gets the equaliser I feel Lloris should of save it though.
Semi Final against Chelsea we beat them in a hard fought match earlier in the season so we had a template to work with.
Poch has the best right back in the league that year on the bench has Davies on the bench who had performed very well I think about 9+ straight wins with him as the Left full back/wing back and Poch plays son as left wing back Son gives away a penalty.
Then to make it worse when chelsea bring on Costa and Hazard Poch brings on Walker takes off son and puts Trippier on the Left.
I agree 100% Poch is a good coach but it does not mean his a good manager. He frustrates me because I believe that we have a very good group of players the best I have seen in my time as a Tottenham fan. In football you have to take your opportunities because injuries, old age, Players wanting to leave because their not winning Trophies can break up a good team.
Look what Conte did in the semi Final and look what Poch did can you honestly say that Poch was more tactically Asute.
Conte used Costa even though they fell out and then transferred him at the end of the season but he has a premiership title to his name. Poch had players that I felt could of contributed to are cause but he would,nt play them two spring to my mind Wimmer and Chadli. I feel as a manager utilise your squad your not playing Man city every week sometimes you can rest the so called top players in your squad and the so called weaker players can contribute.
I forgot to mention without Alderwereld and Walker are defence looks much different so yes Poch obviously contributes to how good are defence is but as Fergie said good players make a Managers job easy.
My complaint is he is an average manager but he is a good Coach I notice the improvement more with the full backs.
U should probably see a dentist about that ☺
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So many flaws in your 'argument' its unreal, tough to know where to begin.
1, You're saying it's Pochs fault because Sanchez scored a goal that you even admit Hugo should save..you have no proof he wouldn't have scored even if he'd kept Lamela on the pitch.
2, Poch used Walker even though they'd fallen out, as did Conte with Costa.
3, Pretty sure Davies wasn't fit, hence him not being used and Trippier switching to left back when Walker came on.
4, Just because Conte outfoxed Poch doesn't make Poch a bad manager, you're talking complete nonsense.
Im getting the impression you're just trolling now tbh.
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I’m certain he’a just trolling
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