The Mauricio Pochettino thread

milli.com · Dec 24, 2017

Gb160 said:
So many flaws in your 'argument' its unreal, tough to know where to begin.

1, You're saying it's Pochs fault because Sanchez scored a goal that you even admit Hugo should save..you have no proof he wouldn't have scored even if he'd kept Lamela on the pitch.
2, Poch used Walker even though they'd fallen out, as did Conte with Costa.
3, Pretty sure Davies wasn't fit, hence him not being used and Trippier switching to left back when Walker came on.
4, Just because Conte outfoxed Poch doesn't make Poch a bad manager, you're talking complete nonsense.

Im getting the impression you're just trolling now tbh.

1. We will never know what would of happened if Lamela stay on, if I knew I would be a rich man

. But what I do know we were winning 2-1 Lamela was containing the threat of Sanchez and 10- man Arsenal Poch made the change and 10 man Arsenal equalised. Granted I do feel Lloris Should of saved it but maybe I am being harsh on him.

2. We are in a Semi Final of the Fa Cup one game away from the Final. Why bring on Walker in reaction to them bringing on Hazard? Why not start with him?

3. Davies was on the bench so I presume he was fit and if memory serve me correct the next game he played. But I am sure Son is not the best option to play Left wing back and he gave away a penalty

4. I agree it does not mean that. But why did Poch complicate things I am sure not one Tottenham fan before that line up would of thought that Son can play Wingback.

Shadydan · Dec 24, 2017

dontcallme said:
I’m certain he’a just trolling

Obvious when he questioned Poch's man management, had a good laugh at that one.

milli.com · Dec 24, 2017

dontcallme said:
I’m certain he’a just trolling

Lol I am just tired of hearing about philosophy I want a Trophy I don't want excuses.
People are questioning me because I feel we should be winning things. I think your the TROLL because you convince enough people that Tottenham should be happy with what were getting, well I am not. We had a centre midfielder that many people believe could of played for real madrid sadly past his prime now who might never win a trophy. We have top players stop having this small club mentality.
Look at what leicester achieved with players like simpson albrighton huth etc etc Sissoko would be a starter for them
Time does not wait for people

southlondonyiddo · Dec 24, 2017

milli.com said:
For e.g. we are chasing leicester if we won against Arsenal I believe if memory serves me correct we would of went top of the league. Were winning 2-1 LAMELA WAS KEEPING SANCHEZ QUIET Arsenal went down to 10 men Lamela got a yellow Poch took him off and bought on Ryan mason ( End of season Ryan Mason sold to Hull no disrespect to Hull or Ryan but if he was that good I am sure he would of got a better Team). Maybe Poch was scared Lamela would get another yellow. Lo and behold Sanchez pops up and gets the equaliser I feel Lloris should of save it though.

Semi Final against Chelsea we beat them in a hard fought match earlier in the season so we had a template to work with.
Poch has the best right back in the league that year on the bench has Davies on the bench who had performed very well I think about 9+ straight wins with him as the Left full back/wing back and Poch plays son as left wing back Son gives away a penalty.
Then to make it worse when chelsea bring on Costa and Hazard Poch brings on Walker takes off son and puts Trippier on the Left.

I agree 100% Poch is a good coach but it does not mean his a good manager. He frustrates me because I believe that we have a very good group of players the best I have seen in my time as a Tottenham fan. In football you have to take your opportunities because injuries, old age, Players wanting to leave because their not winning Trophies can break up a good team.

Look what Conte did in the semi Final and look what Poch did can you honestly say that Poch was more tactically Asute.
Conte used Costa even though they fell out and then transferred him at the end of the season but he has a premiership title to his name. Poch had players that I felt could of contributed to are cause but he would,nt play them two spring to my mind Wimmer and Chadli. I feel as a manager utilise your squad your not playing Man city every week sometimes you can rest the so called top players in your squad and the so called weaker players can contribute.

How did Conte do in the final??? after being so brilliant (according to you) against us in the semi

We outplayed Chelsea that day and lost, again. With the run of the balls we’d have smashed them

Maybe it’s our lack of experience and the very young age of our 1st XI

The manager is the most important person at a football club and he’s done/is doing a great job

Winning a cup does give us some glory and silverware and a great day out but it generally papers over far more cracks than having a consistently fantastic manager that Poch undoubtedly is

Waste your time on something else u muppet

milli.com · Dec 24, 2017

southlondonyiddo said:
How did Conte do in the final??? after being so brilliant (according to you) against us in the semi

We outplayed Chelsea that day and lost, again. With the run of the balls we’d have smashed them

Maybe it’s our lack of experience and the very young age of our 1st XI

The manager is the most important person at a football club and he’s done/is doing a great job

Winning a cup does give us some glory and silverware and a great day out but it generally papers over far more cracks than having a consistently fantastic manager that Poch undoubtedly is

Waste your time on something else u muppet

I never said Conte did brilliant I said he was more tactically astute than Poch. Fa cup Final and Premiership title in your first season thats not bad.

For 60 minutes chelsea had Hazard and Costa on the bench and in the end they won it's a result game unfortunately.

Maybe it is a lack of experience and young age of our 1st team.

I agree the Manager is the most important person because he picks the Team and Poch has done a good job.
But Poch picked Trippier over Walker why? and Plays Son as Left wingback, what makes it look worse is Son gives away a penalty
maybe because he has not got that defensive side to his game.

Winning Cups and silverware Is a requirement if you want to be classed as a world class manager.

And less of the muppet you don't need to go there.

Jgplk1 · Dec 24, 2017

dontcallme said:
I’m certain he’a just trolling

I'm not... I just think the guy's a bloody idiot. Anyone who has supported spurs for a decent number of years or has a pair of eyes can see the difference Pochettino has made. Anyone who can't isn't worth responding to

milli.com · Dec 24, 2017

Jgplk1 said:
I'm not... I just think the guy's a bloody idiot. Anyone who has supported spurs for a decent number of years or has a pair of eyes can see the difference Pochettino has made. Anyone who can't isn't worth responding to

If you read my post I agree Poch has improved us.

southlondonyiddo · Dec 24, 2017

milli.com said:
I never said Conte did brilliant I said he was more tactically astute than Poch. Fa cup Final and Premiership title in your first season thats not bad.

For 60 minutes chelsea had Hazard and Costa on the bench and in the end they won it's a result game unfortunately.

Maybe it is a lack of experience and young age of our 1st team.

I agree the Manager is the most important person because he picks the Team and Poch has done a good job.
But Poch picked Trippier over Walker why? and Plays Son as Left wingback, what makes it look worse is Son gives away a penalty
maybe because he has not got that defensive side to his game.

Winning Cups and silverware Is a requirement if you want to be classed as a world class manager.

And less of the muppet you don't need to go there.

Ok you make some good points but picking holes in Poch is not the way to go especially when plenty of morons will run with it

Regarding the scum game this for me was clearly a lack of experience from everybody, even us the fans

When Harry put us 2-1 up after scoring that great goal he, the rest of the team and 99% of the Stadium thought that game was over. The hysteria for those few minutes was quite amazing (even from me, who is normally very level headed) Unfortunately nobody told Sanchez and a few of the other scum players!!

We completely switched off, stopped playing and forgot there was still 20mins left even against 10 men

I’m sure with Lamela on a yellow and with them down to 10 it was the correct decision. Hindsight is a wonderful thing..

I don’t blame Hugo for the goal. It was a very decent strike and pretty much into the corner. Sometimes you’ll save those and sometimes you won’t

milli.com · Dec 24, 2017

southlondonyiddo said:
Ok you make some good points but picking holes in Poch is not the way to go especially when plenty of morons will run with it

Regarding the scum game this for me was clearly a lack of experience from everybody, even us the fans

When Harry put us 2-1 up after scoring that great goal he, the rest of the team and 99% of the Stadium thought that game was over. The hysteria for those few minutes was quite amazing (even from me, who is normally very level headed) Unfortunately nobody told Sanchez and a few of the other scum players!!

We completely switched off, stopped playing and forgot there was still 20mins left even against 10 men

I’m sure with Lamela on a yellow and with them down to 10 it was the correct decision. Hindsight is a wonderful thing..

I don’t blame Hugo for the goal. It was a very decent strike and pretty much into the corner. Sometimes you’ll save those and sometimes you won’t

I Support Tottenham and I support Poch because, he has taken us to another level.
But I do not accept that he is immune from criticism.
We have players in are 1st team that the Top three would love to have. How long can we keep them without winning anything? even a league cup would do for me.
I personally would give Poch this season and next season because he deserves it but I don't think he will improve or win a Trophy.

Gb160 · Dec 24, 2017

milli.com said:
I Support Tottenham and I support Poch because, he has taken us to another level.
But I do not accept that he is immune from criticism.
We have players in are 1st team that the Top three would love to have. How long can we keep them without winning anything? even a league cup would do for me.
I personally would give Poch this season and next season because he deserves it but I don't think he will improve or win a Trophy.

And then get Ancelotti in huh?

southlondonyiddo · Dec 24, 2017

milli.com said:
I Support Tottenham and I support Poch because, he has taken us to another level.
But I do not accept that he is immune from criticism.
We have players in are 1st team that the Top three would love to have. How long can we keep them without winning anything? even a league cup would do for me.
I personally would give Poch this season and next season because he deserves it but I don't think he will improve or win a Trophy.

You remind me of Serge Aurier

milli.com · Dec 24, 2017

Gb160 said:
And then get Ancelotti in huh?

I was asked what manager would I get in place of Poch

Gb160 · Dec 24, 2017

milli.com said:
I was asked what manager would I get in place of Poch

Yeah I know, I asked you mate.

dudu · Dec 24, 2017

milli.com said:
I Support Tottenham and I support Poch because, he has taken us to another level.
But I do not accept that he is immune from criticism.
We have players in are 1st team that the Top three would love to have. How long can we keep them without winning anything? even a league cup would do for me.
I personally would give Poch this season and next season because he deserves it but I don't think he will improve or win a Trophy.

Some of players are staying because of Poch, obviously the money is a factor but so far apart from Kyle W, no one has been tempted away.

If that's not what you call good man management I do t know what is.

To say you don't see him improving is a bit harsh for such a young manager and someone who seems like they are a proper student of the game.

Yes we need to win things but Poch has philosophy that he clearly manages by and up till now the players, as a unit, appear to have bought into it and apart from a few under par performances I don't see any signs of disharmony or players starting to waver in their belief.

milli.com · Dec 24, 2017

Gb160 said:
Yeah I know, I asked you mate.

You talk like Tottenham are not a big team with good players this is not the 90s or early 2000s
Kane are Striker Golden boot winner twice in a row. Beat the likes of Thierry, Van persie, equal with Shearer for prem goals scored in a calendar year. This guy is already a legend in 3.5 seasons and he plays for us came through are youth for free.
Now if you told me 5 years ago that we would have a striker at Tottenham doing that. I would of laughed.

So if your implying we can't attract a manager like Ancelotti wake up things have changed.

Gb160 · Dec 24, 2017

milli.com said:
You talk like Tottenham are not a big team with good players this is not the 90s or early 2000s
Kane are Striker Golden boot winner twice in a row. Beat the likes of Thierry, Van persie, equal with Shearer for prem goals scored in a calendar year. This guy is already a legend in 3.5 seasons and he plays for us came through are youth for free.
Now if you told me 5 years ago that we would have a striker at Tottenham doing that. I would of laughed.

So if your implying we can't attract a manager like Ancelotti wake up things have changed.

One truly world class player doesn't give us the appeal you think it does unfortunately.
He's not going to work for a club with a near zero net spend, you're bordering delusional im afraid.

milli.com · Dec 24, 2017

dudu said:
Some of players are staying because of Poch, obviously the money is a factor but so far apart from Kyle W, no one has been tempted away.

If that's not what you call good man management I do t know what is.

To say you don't see him improving is a bit harsh for such a young manager and someone who seems like they are a proper student of the game.

Yes we need to win things but Poch has philosophy that he clearly manages by and up till now the players, as a unit, appear to have bought into it and apart from a few under par performances I don't see any signs of disharmony or players starting to waver in their belief.

I Think personally there was light at the end of the tunnel before Walker left we looked like we were not far from winning things .

Alderwereld was quoted as saying Walker is a world class right back.
We let Walker go to are rivals his DOUBLED HIS PAY and his looking like he will win a Trophy in his first year after 9 years trying at Tottenham.

I Think thats sending the wrong message to are players. If you really had to sell him sell him abroad if there was no offers from abroad negotiate with him, its World cup year he would be force to play good Like coutinho.

I Think Poch could of kept Walker, now Rose looks like he wants to move these two guys were in the Prem Team of the year.

These players have short careers your not forever young, next one to watch is Alderwereld.

milli.com · Dec 24, 2017

Gb160 said:
One truly world class player doesn't give us the appeal you think it does unfortunately.
He's not going to work for a club with a near zero net spend, you're bordering delusional im afraid.

Harry Kane is proof that stranger things have happened.
I would not put Benitez in the class of Ancelotti but still he managed in the championship.
So for me I don't see it as delusional.

Gb160 · Dec 24, 2017

Jesus.
Well I'm out, life's too short.

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