Match Ratings Ratings vs Southampton

TheHoddleWaddle · Dec 26, 2017

Bulletspur said:
I think I can safely say that the Spurs have finally woken up from their early season slumber. Some breath taking moments, especially the 1st half

The ref again was a joke and so are those who might say that Sissoko was poor

Anyway please take a bow my MOTM Harold Edward Kane

How was the ref a joke? He missed a penalty that was marginal in real time. But overall he let the game flow i thought.

Thought it was a great game to watch. Really enjoyed it. As others have said we started the game with plenty of umph and gave them no space at all pressing them into their own half. Got a goal which subsequently opened up the game for us to run riot.

Only time we relented was when Dembele went off and we became a little more porous in the cm.

No one had poor game.

What's left to say about Harry Kane? Incredible.

zoneD · Dec 26, 2017

...can we bench Alli already?

COYS

am_yisrael_chai · Dec 26, 2017

Gaz_Gammon said:
'Hugo was appaling'

What a load of absolute bollocks.

Nobody is saying sell him or drop him but he isn't immune from criticism and he was directly responsible for both goals we conceded today and this wasn't an aberration, he is having a poor run of form. Why the need to pillory people who point out the obvious ?

bomberH · Dec 26, 2017

Bulletspur said:
I think I can safely say that the Spurs have finally woken up from their early season slumber. Some breath taking moments, especially the 1st half

The ref again was a joke and so are those who might say that Sissoko was poor

Anyway please take a bow my MOTM Harold Edward Kane

Why don’t you wait for someone to say Sissoko was poor before criticising people who haven’t done so yet.

Sissoko was fine overall when he came on.

Dele was excellent. Kane is on a different planet. Everyone played well. 2 more hatricks for Kane in the next 2 games please or I’ll boo him.

Gaz_Gammon · Dec 26, 2017

am_yisrael_chai said:
Nobody is saying sell him or drop him but he isn't immune from criticism and he was directly responsible for both goals we conceded today and this wasn't an aberration, he is having a poor run of form. Why the need to pillory people who point out the obvious ?

For the first goal not one player shut their player down, for the second the punched ball could have gone anywhere.

To say Lloris 'was appaling' is like i said is total bollocks and i will say that all day long.

He made some outstanding saves today, and the scoreline could have been worse without him.

Everlasting Seconds · Dec 26, 2017

OMG I can't take it any longer. "Lloris 5, Lloris 5, Lloris appalling". I'm just shutting this crap thread, you guys don't even deserve a well thought through response.

BringBack_leGin · Dec 26, 2017

Overall a very food performance, gloss slightly removed by a touch of sloppiness from certain players but it’s hard to feel aggrieved when so much high quality football has been played. Great press? Check. In-sync attack? Check. Clinical on the counter? Check. Creating plenty of chances? Check. All this made possible because we got out of the traps quickly and put Southampton on the bag foot from kick off. Particularly thrilled with the second goal, brilliant move. I don’t think the manager will be thrilled about our defensive complacency in the final half hour though.

Lloris made a couple of great saves but his distribution again faltered and he was poor on both goals conceded, firstly being beaten near post and then punching out a very catchable ball for their second.

Aurier was generally good, getting forward well and providing a good outlet while not really putting a foot wrong defensively. His final ball wasn’t up to scratch though.

Sanchez had a mixed game, some great composed moments but also a few poor decisions and sloppy passes.

Vertonghen was indomitable. Great covering when necessary, won every aerial ball, composed passing out and stood up well to the constant shenanigans of that little shit Long.

Rose had a mixed bag, a couple of lovely driving runs but also some silly passes into trouble, not to mention an attempt at own goal of the season.

Dier had a strong game, even showing some skill on a few occasions and providing a very good shield in front of the defence.

Dembele was a let down, too often passed by off the ball but more worryingly, error prone on it with a few poor passes and surprisingly bad touches.

Eriksen was brilliant, finally took a half decent free kick to create our opener, pressed throughout, clever incisive passing and generally a really imaginative performance.

Dele was at his best, making good decisions and driving us forward continuously. A great goal and two assists (as well as playing Son to create Kane’s second), top marks thoroughly deserved.

Son was very good, his pace enabled our counter, his unpredictability kept their defenders on the back foot and he took his goal beautifully while providing a fine cross to assist Kane.

Kane, well his performance speaks for itself. It’s not just the hatrick, it’s how he led the press, how he dropped back to support the midfield, how he spread the play. Great, compete performance and he thoroughly deserved the plaudits coming his way.

Sissoko was fine, broke well, tackled well and was unfortunate not to start in my opinion.

Lamela looked purposeful again, linked in nicely with the other attackers and should ha e scored. Perhaps has lost a touch of bravery in 50/50s but it will come with match time.

Winks gave us an extra body in midfield which helped stem the complacency which had set in.

Davo99 · Dec 26, 2017

Dzejkob said:
My MOTM goes to Alli. Beautiful goal, two assist and overall very good game. Probably the best game from him so far this season. Of course Kane scored hattrick but I think Alli deserved it more.

This.

tippspur59 · Dec 26, 2017

AS good as Verts and Dele were today I have to give it to Kane,he's unreal....

coys200 · Dec 26, 2017

Gaz_Gammon said:
'Hugo was appaling'

What a load of absolute bollocks.

Please tell me how he wasn’t ? How many goals do you have to give away as a keeper to be appalling 4 or 5 ? Both goals were his fault,flappy at every cross that came in. Punching stuff he could easily have caught. Standard woeful distribution. And to top it off a comedy of errors with Rose. How can People defend him today. He’s been fantastic for us, but this season been poor with today being the worst.

Bobbins · Dec 26, 2017

What a thread: “Hugo was appalling”, “the ref was a joke” etc.

Fuck’s sake.

am_yisrael_chai · Dec 26, 2017

Gaz_Gammon said:
For the first goal not one player shut their player down, for the second the punched ball could have gone anywhere.

To say Lloris 'was appaling' is like i said is total bollocks and i will say that all day long.

He made some outstanding saves today, and the scoreline could have been worse without him.

Sorry to state the blindingly obvious but he is in the team to deal with situations where the opposition get past the defenders in front of him, so to state that the first goal isn't his fault because of the defending in front of him just doesn't make any sense. He was beaten at his near post which top class GKs shouldn't be, he was beaten by pace which suggests weak hands. For the second goal he didn't punch far enough which is why he finds himself in trouble with the subsequent shot. This comes on the back of his mistake against Stoke and KdB's goal against him which was harder than the first today but should also have been saved.

davidmatzdorf · Dec 26, 2017

We didn't defend badly, that's rubbish. Southampton were well worth their two goals, even though Lloris could have done better. Southampton today reminded me a bit of Swansea when we beat them 5-0: the individual defenders look decent enough and most of their goals conceded don't result from glaring individual errors, but their organisation is all over the place and there are always spacious gaps for us to play into.

It's easy to see why teams come to us and pack 11 behind the ball: because it works. You might lose 1-0, you might get a draw or a win against the run of play, but you won't concede 4-5 goals and get thrashed. Southampton played a great deal of lovely attacking football today. If they had Austin on the pitch, it might have been a more nail-biting match, but you cannot come to Tottenham and play wide-open attacking football unless you are faster to the ball, fiercer in the press and well-organised in defence - like Man City. Southampton were none of those. The result was a great game to watch, but not if you're a Saints fan.

Their goals owed a lot more to their good play than to our mistakes. The match stats are interesting reading: it was a very even game, overall. It didn't look that way when we were raiding through the acreage they left in their defensive half.

Lloris 5.5 He didn't do especially well for the two goals, but his overall play was decent. I wonder what people are referring to when they complain about his distribution. When I do, I'm usually referring to his wayward long-kicking. I suspect that others' reactions are more being conditioned by his short passes to teammates under pressure. They make everyone very nervous, but they rarely, if ever result in a goal - the panic with Rose's back-header being as close as one can come. It's obviously done under instructions and you never see the receiving player complaining, no matter how difficult the position in which they receive the ball. 95% of the time, we play out without incident. It's just that the style of play makes the spectators nervous. But I'm disinclined to blame Lloris for it, because it's plainly an integral part of Pochettino's tactics.

Rose 8 That's the first time we've seen the pre-injury Rose, back to the standard he set last season. Vigorous, direct, capable and threatening.

Sanchez 7 One thing I notice about him frequently is that, when the ball is coming upfield, he lets the opponent get slightly the wrong side of him and relies upon his pace to catch up. Most of the time that works. Today Shane Long's pace nearly exposed him. But it's plain that, at 21, he is the defender whom Lloris most trusts to receive the ball and his overall play continues to be mature and effective.

Vertonghen 7.5 A very good all-round display, the more so because he had to avoid a yellow card.

Aurier 6.5 Some great play on the touch-line, but I often find myself wishing he would make decisions a half-second earlier: attack your man or cross or pass, but don't think so hard about it.

Dembélé 7 We became visibly more porous when he went off. So much that he does isn't visible until he's not there anymore. A lot of our pressure resulted indirectly from Dembélé bringing the ball into attacking positions.

Dier 7 Calm and reliable throughout.

Son 8 Made the fullbacks' lives a misery all afternoon. Got an assist and a goal. He has sustained his good form now for enough months to make me think that he has taken his overall game up a level.

Dele 8.5 If Kane hadn't got his 3rd goal, Dele would have been the obvious man of the match. Assists, a goal, creative passes all over the pitch, good discipline and very few lapses in judgment.

Eriksen 7 Not the star today, but the others would not have shone without his patient passing and probing. Great pressing game.

Kane 8.5 OK, it's a bit churlish to go here, but I'm going to do it anyway. Obviously, it was great display of all-round striker play, especially finishing, but here's what struck me. Last season there was a personal record to be achieved - he wanted the Golden Boot - and he scored 7 goals in 2 matches. This season there were personal records to be achieved - Shearer's EPL calendar year total and the most prolific striker in Europe - and he scored 6 goals in 2 matches. If I were Harry Kane, I would be meeting with my sports psychologist and exploring how he can achieve the level of intensity that he brings when a milestone is in view in his weekly play. He raises his game. It should be possible for him to analyse what happens when he does that, so he can tap into some of it without the personal milestone as motivation. Just pips Dele to the MotM today.

Sissoko 6 Not as good as against Burnley, but he is passing much more reliably and confidently now - I only saw two wayward balls - and he threw his weight about to good effect.

Lamela 6 A bit quiet. Son was a hard act to follow.

Winks NET

stevenurse · Dec 26, 2017

I wouldn't say anyone had a bad game, although by his usually incredibly high standards, I think Lloris will be disappointed in his performance tonight.

First goal was a decent strike but at the near post (where he gets beaten too often in my opinion) and the second was a poor choice to come and punch badly. He made a couple of decent saves and claimed some crosses well.

the one save that looked incredible, I would expect any professional keeper to save, but he does it with maximum aplomb (classy French bastard)

his kicking will always be divisive topic. Its certainly the weakest area of his game for sure.

isaac94 · Dec 26, 2017

davidmatzdorf said:
We didn't defend badly, that's rubbish. Southampton were well worth their two goals, even though Lloris could have done better. Southampton today reminded me a bit of Swansea when we beat them 5-0: the individual defenders look decent enough and most of their goals conceded don't result from glaring individual errors, but their organisation is all over the place and there are always spacious gaps for us to play into.

It's easy to see why teams come to us and pack 11 behind the ball: because it works. You might lose 1-0, you might get a draw or a win against the run of play, but you won't concede 4-5 goals and get thrashed. Southampton played a great deal of lovely attacking football today. If they had Austin on the pitch, it might have been a more nail-biting match, but you cannot come to Tottenham and play wide-open attacking football unless you are faster to the ball, fiercer in the press and well-organised in defence - like Man City. Southampton were none of those. The result was a great game to watch, but not if you're a Saints fan.

Their goals owed a lot more to their good play than to our mistakes. The match stats are interesting reading: it was a very even game, overall. It didn't look that way when we were raiding through the acreage they left in their defensive half.

Lloris 5.5 He didn't do especially well for the two goals, but his overall play was decent. I wonder what people are referring to when they complain about his distribution. When I do, I'm usually referring to his wayward long-kicking. I suspect that others' reactions are more being conditioned by his short passes to teammates under pressure. They make everyone very nervous, but they rarely, if ever result in a goal - the panic with Rose's back-header being as close as one can come. It's obviously done under instructions and you never see the receiving player complaining, no matter how difficult the position in which they receive the ball. 95% of the time, we play out without incident. It's just that the style of play makes the spectators nervous. But I'm disinclined to blame Lloris for it, because it's plainly an integral part of Pochettino's tactics.

Rose 8 That's the first time we've seen the pre-injury Rose, back to the standard he set last season. Vigorous, direct, capable and threatening.

Sanchez 7 One thing I notice about him frequently is that, when the ball is coming upfield, he lets the opponent get slightly the wrong side of him and relies upon his pace to catch up. Most of the time that works. Today Shane Long's pace nearly exposed him. But it's plain that, at 21, he is the defender whom Lloris most trusts to receive the ball and his overall play continues to be mature and effective.

Vertonghen 7.5 A very good all-round display, the more so because he had to avoid a yellow card.

Aurier 6.5 Some great play on the touch-line, but I often find myself wishing he would make decisions a half-second earlier: attack your man or cross or pass, but don't think so hard about it.

Dembélé 7 We became visibly more porous when he went off. So much that he does isn't visible until he's not there anymore. A lot of our pressure resulted indirectly from Dembélé bringing the ball into attacking positions.

Dier 7 Calm and reliable throughout.

Son 8 Made the fullbacks' lives a misery all afternoon. Got an assist and a goal. Has been sustained his good form now for enough months to make me think that he has taken his overall game up a level.

Dele 8.5 If Kane hadn't got his 3rd goal, Dele would have been the obvious man of the match. Assists, a goal, creative passes all over the pitch, good discipline and very few lapses in judgment.

Eriksen 7 Not the star today, but the others would not have shone without his patient passing and probing. Great pressing game.

Kane 8.5 OK, it's a bit churlish to go here, but I'm going to do it anyway. Obviously, it was great display of all-round striker play, especially finishing, but here's what struck me. Last season there was a personal record to be achieved - he wanted the Golden Boot - and he scored 7 goals in 2 matches. This season there were personal records to be achieved - Shearer's EPL calendar year total and the most prolific striker in Europe - and he scored 6 goals in 2 matches. If I were Harry Kane, I would be meeting with my sports psychologist and exploring how he can achieve the level of intensity that he brings when a milestone is in view in his weekly play. He raises his game. It should be possible for him to analyse what happens when he does that, so he can tap into some of it without the personal milestone as motivation. Just pips Dele to the MotM today.

Sissoko 6 Not as good as against Burnley, but he is passing much more reliably and confidently now - I only saw two wayward balls - and he threw his weight about to good effect.

Lamela 6 A bit quiet. Son was a hard act to follow.

Winks NET

Can't agree with your Kane analogy, the guy is a machine even if a milestone is not upcoming, 56 goals in 54 games, something the premier has hardly seen before and just beaten the record, he dont need know sports psychologist lol. not even ronaldo or messi can sustain 6 goals every 2 games. So I am more than happy with Harry to continue on with over 1 goal a game ratio. He got 8 hat tricks this year ffs, pretty sure not every one of them were milestone games.

davidmatzdorf · Dec 26, 2017

isaac94 said:
Can't agree with your Kane analogy

It wasn't an analogy.

isaac94 said:
...he dont need know sports psychologist lol...

He has one. He said so.

He has a personal chef/dietitian as well. All part of working hard and keeping every part of him focused.

St José Dominguez · Dec 26, 2017

Kane is Kane and will get motm but Dele and Son were superb. Son is still so underrated, he's up there with the best in league in his position right now. Dele showing why you don't drop him, let him play himself into form. Fully expect him to go on a run of scoring now, fantastic young player.

Rose is getting fitter and better, Aurier had a good game again. I'd have them as first choice and only rotate if genuine requirement.

Lloris was only poor player, isn't having great season form wise but considering how much he saved us over the years gotta allow it. I'm sure he'll regain form and confidence soon.

9 - Kane Dele Son Vertonghen
8 - Rose Dier
7 - Aurier Eriksen Sanchez
6 - Dembele Sissoko Lamela
5 - Lloris

Bulletspur · Dec 26, 2017

bomberH said:
Why don’t you wait for someone to say Sissoko was poor before criticising people who haven’t done so yet.

.

Pre empting based on past post match comments

Bobbins said:
What a thread: “Hugo was appalling”, “the ref was a joke” etc.

Fuck’s sake.

So what is your contribution to the thread? Instead of being scathing or dismissive, for once at least try and show the posters why they are wrong with their individual assessments.

tiger666 · Dec 26, 2017

Kane. Obviously Kane. The man has just broken the league record and scored more than messi this year. Kane ..

coys200 · Dec 26, 2017

All in all it was a slightly weird game. They actually had as many efforts as us 16. And we only had 57% of the ball. I think we took our foot off at 4-0,and it became a bit of a basketball game. Which probably skewed the stats. I just don’t get dembele refusal to shot. It’s like some kind of mental block. If Dembele had 10 goals a season in him he’d probably been hailed as one of the all time great CM.

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