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Whoever Van Dyke goes to, we already have two, potentially three better centre backs than him.
How can we overhaul City?
I'm not sure but it'll be fun trying.
We don't need to be near that level of spend and I wouldn't want to be. 75 million on Van Dijk is crazy. We have Sanchez who was our most expensive signing at 42 million, who will be world class.Liverpool are about to drop £75m on Van Dijk and have Naby Keita coming in next season for near enough the same amount. We're nowhere near that level of spend. Money is the difference.
Plus, Liverpool will balance it financially by selling Coutinho.We don't need to be near that level of spend and I wouldn't want to be. 75 million on Van Dijk is crazy. We have Sanchez who was our most expensive signing at 42 million, who will be world class.
All the money in the world can't buy you the ability to field more than 11 players at a time. There is a logical limit to how big the gap in the 11 best players can be, regardless of money. People who think we need more money are lacking in vision, creativity and football understand enough to come up with actual solutions.
Whoever Van Dyke goes to, we already have two, potentially three better centre backs than him.
ThisWe need;
Creative midfielder who can dictate play eg Silva, Ariel Ortega type
Goal scoring winger/inside forward with pace eg Son, Sane
Back up striker who can score
More belief and experience
Stop square passing from the keeper when we are being pressed. Our biggest problem in terms of in game performance has been in the transition into midfield. So slow and predictable.
We are not far away. City have changed the game and I believe that we will change with it. There has been a marked change since we played them. No more slow and lethargic first 15 minutes. Much more pressing. Moving the ball quicker and more incisively. The problem is having the belief and confidence to do that in the bigger games away from home.
I see your point but no team has all of the players you’ve mentioned, Man.Citys is very good but we have players who’d get in their team and squad for sure:There is no solution to consistently beating a better team with better players, and all the money in the world could buy you the best 11 players that you can field. City might not spend limitless money, but conceivably limitless money could allow you to field this sort of 11:
Manager: Guardiola
De Gea
Kimmich Chellini Godin Alaba
De Bruyne Vidal Modric
Messi Suarez Ronaldo
Subs: Neuer, Neymar, Kante, Kane, Salah, Azpilcueta, Silva
How do you rate our chances against that lot, provided both teams are well coached and organised?
Poch is doing a great job with the resources at his disposal, but he's playing an unfair game against a very adept (possibly better) manager with far more resources. He's very good at developing players which is perfect for us, but all Guardiola has to do at City is look on the market for the very best players and ask Mansour to pull out the cheque book.
Agree.Agree, he's decent. Not worth 75 million, and Sanchez is better with a much higher ceiling.
I worry about them getting Keita though... He could be a major difference maker in the way that Kante was for Chelsea and Leicester.
De Gea
Kimmich Chellini Godin Alaba
De Bruyne Vidal Modric
Messi Suarez Ronaldo
Subs: Neuer, Neymar, Kante, Kane, Salah, Azpilcueta, Silva
This is all subjective but if we compared us to the current top 6 on a number of areas I think it currently stands like this:
Manager: (success,experience,future potential and current level combined)
1- Man.City/Pep Guadiola
2- Chelsea/Conte
3- Man.U/Mouriniho
4- Tottenham/Poch
5-Liverpool/Koop
6-Arsenal/Wenger
COYS.
I see your point but no team has all of the players you’ve mentioned, Man.Citys is very good but we have players who’d get in their team and squad for sure:
Rose
Toby
Jan
Wanyama
Son
Eriksen
Dele?
Kane
It is an unfair game but it is still possible for us to win things, if Man.City have another season like this one next year then they really have changed the goalposts but I can’t see it tbh.
I based that more on current performance as he is on a decline year after yearMuch as I don't like him, Wenger down at 6th? Really? I'd have him no lower than behind Pep and Moaninho.