Team Whispers: Who should Spurs sign in January?

Archibald&Crooks · Dec 30, 2017

Streetspur77 said:
After having read the book they make it very clear it's not poch working against Levy, they are working together. Surely it's not about money bc Barkley is right up Levys street in terms of a bargain so if as trix says it's worries about fitness, why would Levy overrule poch in an area he knows little about, the day to day of coaching and fitness etc

Seems odd and I still feel we'll get him, everyone is just playing games imo

Pochettino is hardly going to write that Levy is a massive codpiece when it comes to closing deals and it's pretty blatant too.

I am, however, completely free to do so

Hercules · Dec 30, 2017

Streetspur77 said:
After having read the book they make it very clear it's not poch working against Levy, they are working together. Surely it's not about money bc Barkley is right up Levys street in terms of a bargain so if as trix says it's worries about fitness, why would Levy overrule poch in an area he knows little about, the day to day of coaching and fitness etc

Seems odd and I still feel we'll get him, everyone is just playing games imo

You are entitled to your opinion, and I have read the book. I can assure you Poch still wants RB. That much I know. Whilst I respect Trix’s comments, which are on point btw. Question is if Poch wants regardless of this. What should our Daniel do? As Fergie was known for saying ‘it is my neck on the block if it goes wrong. If I want a player, it is also my neck on the block, not the board’s’.

Archibald&Crooks · Dec 30, 2017

Hercules said:
You are entitled to your opinion, and I have read the book. I can assure you Poch still wants RB. That much I know. Whilst I respect Trix’s comments, which are on point btw. Question is of Poch wants regardless of this. What should our Daniel do? As Fergie was known for saying ‘it is my neck on the block if it goes wrong. If I want a player, it is also my neck on the block, not the board’s’.

Levy's head will never be on the block. Never!

I'll defend him for ever, regardless of what those ****s who bash him say! :cautious:

Archibald&Crooks · Dec 30, 2017

I've confused myself.

The Doc · Dec 30, 2017

RB being a few weeks behind schedule would be an odd reason not to push this through. Was there an expectation from us that Everton would let him use them as a gym so he can prove his fitness and then do one on 01 January? Failing that, would Everton mind awfully if he uses them until May instead? Unless there is a genuine concern re: nature of the injury and likelihood of him being 100% again, that just doesn't add up. Throw in the supposed call that went into him at the end of the last window, and I can easily imagine a scenario where both he and Everton think we're taking the p**s.

steve · Dec 30, 2017

Who's this Malcolm geezer?

Hercules · Dec 30, 2017

Archibald&Crooks said:
Levy's head will never be on the block. Never!

I'll defend him for ever, regardless of what those ****s who bash him say!

He is in a win-win then. Blamethemanager.com

rocklink · Dec 30, 2017

tiger666 said:
Barca, Madrid etc are linked. We aren't competing with that.

Fyi, liverpool also linked .. i highly doubt he will go to barca

worcestersauce · Dec 30, 2017

Hercules said:
Everton are not refusing to deal with us.

I never really thought they were, they just might want to get the most money which, as we know, is likely to be Chelsea.

Japhet · Dec 30, 2017

The Doc said:
RB being a few weeks behind schedule would be an odd reason not to push this through. Was there an expectation from us that Everton would let him use them as a gym so he can prove his fitness and then do one on 01 January? Failing that, would Everton mind awfully if he uses them until May instead? Unless there is a genuine concern re: nature of the injury and likelihood of him being 100% again, that just doesn't add up. Throw in the supposed call that went into him at the end of the last window, and I can easily imagine a scenario where both he and Everton think we're taking the p**s.

Signing Barkley while he's not proved his fitness is a massive gamble. It may be 'only' 10m or whatever, but he'd be on big wages because of that. What length of contract should we offer? He'll want a long deal, but what if he's way off the player he used to be, and there are plenty of examples of that. Money down the drain. A short contract has plenty of pitfalls for us as well. Does Levy have any record of signing players with injury concerns? No, he doesn't. I can only see him as squad depth if we're lucky when we could do with a long term solution to Dembele and competition for Eriksen. At his best, Barkley when he was 100% was well short of both IMO.

For the love of Spurs · Dec 30, 2017

Hercules said:
You are entitled to your opinion, and I have read the book. I can assure you Poch still wants RB. That much I know. Whilst I respect Trix’s comments, which are on point btw. Question is of Poch wants regardless of this. What should our Daniel do? As Fergie was known for saying ‘it is my neck on the block if it goes wrong. If I want a player, it is also my neck on the block, not the board’s’.

Even by Levy standards this is very odd, even if we have to pay £15 mil, it’s for a player who is worth probably £40 mil straight away with a 4 year deal and more if he gets back and playing well quickly, it sounds like he is desperate to play in the World Cup and will do anything to get there and Poch really wants him.

His fitness is the only down side and the time it will take to be totally up to speed but Lamela seems to have had worse issues and is now coming back for us.

worcestersauce · Dec 30, 2017

Japhet said:
Signing Barkley while he's not proved his fitness is a massive gamble. It may be 'only' 10m or whatever, but he'd be on big wages because of that. What length of contract should we offer? He'll want a long deal, but what if he's way off the player he used to be, and there are plenty of examples of that. Money down the drain. A short contract has plenty of pitfalls for us as well. Does Levy have any record of signing players with injury concerns? No, he doesn't. I can only see him as squad depth if we're lucky when we could do with a long term solution to Dembele and competition for Eriksen. At his best, Barkley when he was 100% was well short of both IMO.

You really think he's a massive gamble? I just don't see that at all, even if he was a gamble it would surely only be a small gamble and money down the drain? It wouldn't be too much money surely and if it didn't work out how much could we sell him for with three years left on his contract? More than we'll pay for him without a doubt.
I understand the injury question but I think some of us are making mountains out of mole hills.
He was a good buy in the summer and he's a good buy now.

RichieS · Dec 30, 2017

tiger666 said:
Barca, Madrid etc are linked. We aren't competing with that.

But what we can do is keep our eye on who is then surplus to requirements at either of those clubs.

I still haven't decided whether the André Gomes story in August was completely made up by Sky or not.

Streetspur77 · Dec 30, 2017

Archibald&Crooks said:
Pochettino is hardly going to write that Levy is a massive codpiece when it comes to closing deals and it's pretty blatant too.

I am, however, completely free to do so

Then why even agree to write the book and sign off on everything said in it? If he was just gonna lie might aswell not do it and no one would ever know he turned it down

Mr Pink · Dec 30, 2017

Archibald&Crooks said:
Just a quick update on the ITK forums. The aim is to open sometime on New Years Day. Might be a day early, might be a day late, depending on real life, hangovers and generally being arsed to do it.

As usual, all others transfer threads, including this one will have the padlock applied.

You could drive a donation charge on the basis of getting them up as quick you can?!

Japhet · Dec 30, 2017

worcestersauce said:
You really think he's a massive gamble? I just don't see that at all, even if he was a gamble it would surely only be a small gamble and money down the drain? It wouldn't be too much money surely and if it didn't work out how much could we sell him for with three years left on his contract? More than we'll pay for him without a doubt.
I understand the injury question but I think some of us are making mountains out of mole hills.
He was a good buy in the summer and he's a good buy now.

The cheap fee is offset by the players ability to demand high wages. That's the gamble. Chelsea might offer him those wages but I don't think we should and I don't think Levy will. People are constantly pointing the finger at Sissoko being a bad deal but he has made a contribution. Barkley might never do that, or at least never be the player he was (which IMO is still not what we need). He wants to go to the WC so perhaps people should let it be known who they think should be making way for him, bearing in mind that he's not a CM. At the moment he'd compete with Eriksen, and I don't think he's fit to lace his boots.

Ghost Hardware · Dec 30, 2017

steve said:
Who's this Malcolm geezer?

Some guy who plays football in France who most certainly will not be signing for us.

Breezer · Dec 30, 2017

Hercules said:
Interesting to see what comes out if RB signs for chavs. Will tell us a lot about certain things. I know Poch is very keen, so work the rest out.

You could say the same with Zaha. If he ends up at Ars, Poch will not be happy no matter how good his supposed relationship is with DL

richard_gleeson · Dec 30, 2017

Ghost Hardware said:
Some guy who plays football in France who most certainly will not be signing for us.

Surely the fact he plays is France is a very good reason why we will sign him!? Or is he a good player and so we won't sign him, because we only sign the crap wingers in France?!...

For the love of Spurs · Dec 30, 2017

Japhet said:
The cheap fee is offset by the players ability to demand high wages. That's the gamble. Chelsea might offer him those wages but I don't think we should and I don't think Levy will. People are constantly pointing the finger at Sissoko being a bad deal but he has made a contribution. Barkley might never do that, or at least never be the player he was (which IMO is still not what we need). He wants to go to the WC so perhaps people should let it be known who they think should be making way for him, bearing in mind that he's not a CM. At the moment he'd compete with Eriksen, and I don't think he's fit to lace his boots.

1. That’s your opinion and fair enough but Poch thinks highly of Barkley as per all the ITK and wants him at the club.

2. If we get him on a 4 year deal he will have a big sale price should we wish to let him go, on the other hand if he does really well then we have got him on a cheap fee.

3. Wages of £100K are a lot but we have Sissoko on around £90K and if Barkley replaces him then we can always sell Sissoko and cover the wages that way.

Yes you can look at it from a glass half empty perspective but considering his talent, age and price in today’s market it looks a bargain IMO.

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