tiger666
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I never said it was. I said it's smalltime being content at finishing above Arsenal.
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I never said it was. I said it's smalltime being content at finishing above Arsenal.
ljinko888
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If he doesn't push for a move this month it'll confirm the accusations of him being unambitious and content to just coast along and collect his wage.
Should be in his peak yet he barely plays anymore for Arsenal. In a World Cup year he's not even an afterthought for a place on the plane.
The guy is a decent player who could rejuvenate himself with a change of environment but he should be the one pushing for it.
scat1620
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Pink, you know I love you, but leave the West Ham fan stuff out please, buddy. Lest I accuse you of sounding like an entitled nu-Citeh fan for suggesting that Spurs are now too big to accept the odd season outside of the CL but above Arsenal (when the reality is that we've just seen our first EVER back-to-back seasons in the CL and our first finish above Arsenal in 20 years) when we're fighting with 5 other big clubs (all richer than us) for 4 spots.
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scat1620
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Well in that case I disagree, and I can't tell you how vehemently. If you can accept not finishing in the CL once in a while due to having to compete with the 5 other big clubs for 4 places (which I guess, like me, you can, given the quote above?), I don't get not being able to take pleasure in finishing above our arch rivals. I'm not trying to tell you you're wrong, but I just don't get how you wouldn't find some measure of comfort in that myself.
tiger666
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You're welcome to disagree. You asked the question, I answered.
Lilbaz
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I'd like to finish above arsenal.
Led's Zeppelin
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I’d like to finish above Arsenal. What Spurs fan wouldn’t?
But the point is, just finishing above them is not enough on its own to make it a successful season, because we have progressed to the point where we are aiming to seriously challenge for the title, and finishing at least in the top four should be a natural by-product of that.
So finishing fifth would not be a success, and while Arsenal finishing below us would be a nice consolation, that’s all it would be. Because we want to finish higher than 5th.
I don’t think we’re really disagreeing about this, just using different words to say pretty much the same thing aren’t we?
But the point is, just finishing above them is not enough on its own to make it a successful season, because we have progressed to the point where we are aiming to seriously challenge for the title, and finishing at least in the top four should be a natural by-product of that.
So finishing fifth would not be a success, and while Arsenal finishing below us would be a nice consolation, that’s all it would be. Because we want to finish higher than 5th.
I don’t think we’re really disagreeing about this, just using different words to say pretty much the same thing aren’t we?
Lilbaz
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I'd like to win the treble and finish above arsenal.
That's more like it! Finishing above the gooners is not enough nowadays as we are more ambitious.
spursfan77
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It's good that they aren't. If they start to the Arsenal might do something about it. At the moment they seem to be coasting along.
They are going to have to spend a lot of money or get some very good/lucky low cost players in. Maybe that's why they've bought the Dortmund guy in. He's going to do what Arnesen did with us and buy a tonne of players and hope some work out.
spursfan77
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Plus you know we'd finish fifth, them sixth and they'll win the Europa league.
I can't see them getting top 4 but I can see them winning the Europa league.
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If we did miss out on the CL this season (and the temporary Wembley move would be the main contributing factor), would you rather we finished 5th (Europa League) or 6th (no European distractions), Personally I'd rather have no European distractions and have a massive advantage in the league the same way Chelsea did last season, and Liverpool the year before that. Obviously rather keep CL football as that is what attracts (and keeps) the best players, but difficult not to want that focus on the league and a potential league title in the first season at our new home!
dudu
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Absolutely and the key is that in those seasons we take advantage of not being in it as Chelsea did last year and unlike Arsenal are doing this.
A lot of people have glossed over how poorly they are doing despite not playing in the CL.
worcestersauce
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A few weeks ago people were saying, and posting, that United and Chelsea were out of reach and we were in a three way fight for fourth with Arseanl and Liverpool and that we were the outsiders, a win tonight and we are four points off United three off chelsea only one behind Liverpool and four clear of arsenal, that's not a bad turn around, we're finding some proper form now and we are on the march.
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There are a lot of good clubs in the Europa this season. Main one being Athletico Madrid who have now hit some form, Costa is now playing for them. They must be favourites for it. Costa does like playing Arsenal.
cozzo
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If they win the Europa then that's big egg on our faces
stevenurse
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It's essential we get top 4 at least this season. Simple as that. Couldn't give a toss who we do/don't finish above.
Going into the new stadium being in the elite competition will be massive for sponsors etc and if we are playing in our amazing new home against some Belarus Cup winners it's frankly going to be a bit embarrassing.
Would be nice for Liverpool to miss out as they clearly aren't fucking about and despite losing Coutinho, are willing to spend big to address weaknesses in their team. I'd put money on them going for Butland and with Keita coming in, will sort their midfield. They are potentially another centre back/Keeper short of an incredible first XI.
Going into the new stadium being in the elite competition will be massive for sponsors etc and if we are playing in our amazing new home against some Belarus Cup winners it's frankly going to be a bit embarrassing.
Would be nice for Liverpool to miss out as they clearly aren't fucking about and despite losing Coutinho, are willing to spend big to address weaknesses in their team. I'd put money on them going for Butland and with Keita coming in, will sort their midfield. They are potentially another centre back/Keeper short of an incredible first XI.
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arunspurs
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A win today takes us 4points clear of Arsenal with a good goal difference. Arsenal have had a terrible time since December, just winning 11 points out of 24 available. IMO, we can shrug off Arsenal, as long as we stick to the basics.
Then we need to better one of United, Chelsea or Liverpool. Lot of it depends on how these clubs react in Jan. If Coutinho leaves thats a big minus for Liverpool. Batshuayi may leave for Chelsea but they may add some one more potent striker. United could bring in couple of star players too...
But overall, I feel we have better chance of catching United & Liverpool. United because, more city win in style, more resentment grows, more angry & deluded Jose becomes and alienates players. This could derail their seson. Liverpool because I feel as a squad weare better than them - over a season we have enough to catch & better them. I dont think Chelsea can be beaten as they seem to always get results away from home at top6 teams than we do...
