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thfc1973

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Every season, at critical moments when it starts to count most we fail to deliver. Playing against teams with 10 men behind the ball we have an abundance of possession with no reward, no bite, no meaningful goal to reward it.

Guardiola once said when asked about this type of football that Barcelona played at the time (possession based football) he said he doesn't relate to that as he said its meaningless if you just pass and pass and pass with no result. And so he was saying his justification was that there was always an end result, a goal or goals that win you the game.

And that is exactly what we are like. We pass and pass and pass and we're useless with the ball. We cant penetrate teams and beat them when they defend. We have no game plan. No other tactics, apart from pass and pass and hope they make a mistake. That's the difference between a manager like Poch and Pep.

This is Poch. This is his achilles heal. He has no great game plan or in-game tactics or ability to open up teams, change it up to get us doing something different that will make a difference unless the game (conceding a goal) forces him or us to. Sitting there watching the game I cant help but feel why after half time the impetus, the game plan and tactics didn't change? It always takes a goal against us to get us to respond. This is typical!

I've said it before, but the fact remains. Poch isn't a great manager. He's a good manager but not a great manager. The level we are at, is the best we will get from him, regardless of the players we bring in (unless we had world class players who could win you games).

He's alright, he's a true Spurs loving manager, he sees the club philosophy and the ambition and he wants it so bad..But he'll never deliver us a major trophy. Fact. He's just not good enough. Whether he needs more time and experience with other clubs to gain more insight or appreciation I cant say, but for us, he will never drive us to trophy success.

He's just not astute enough, just not tactically aware enough and just not clever enough.

The reality is we're stuck with him for now. And until we move into the new stadium and maybe give him 1 year after that to get us settled we wont swap him for another manager I reckon. That's not my personal choice, as I'd like to amicably part with him at the end of this season and get in a manager I feel who could get us to the next level, beit a Conte or an Enrique or Simeone, but my feeling is we will have to get used to playing Europa league again for a few more years, see our best players leave and another wave of a new breed of young exciting players being brought in to replace them or come through the ranks to give us optimism.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
Jun 20, 2012
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Why does this need a thread?
Whys it not in the Poch thread?

Ps, love the use of the 'Fact.'
 

Geyzer Soze

Fearlessly the idiot faced the crowd
Aug 16, 2010
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Tonio

Good bloke, thorough professional.
May 15, 2008
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Every season, at critical moments when it starts to count most we fail to deliver. Playing against teams with 10 men behind the ball we have an abundance of possession with no reward, no bite, no meaningful goal to reward it.

Guardiola once said when asked about this type of football that Barcelona played at the time (possession based football) he said he doesn't relate to that as he said its meaningless if you just pass and pass and pass with no result. And so he was saying his justification was that there was always an end result, a goal or goals that win you the game.

And that is exactly what we are like. We pass and pass and pass and we're useless with the ball. We cant penetrate teams and beat them when they defend. We have no game plan. No other tactics, apart from pass and pass and hope they make a mistake. That's the difference between a manager like Poch and Pep.

This is Poch. This is his achilles heal. He has no great game plan or in-game tactics or ability to open up teams, change it up to get us doing something different that will make a difference unless the game (conceding a goal) forces him or us to. Sitting there watching the game I cant help but feel why after half time the impetus, the game plan and tactics didn't change? It always takes a goal against us to get us to respond. This is typical!

I've said it before, but the fact remains. Poch isn't a great manager. He's a good manager but not a great manager. The level we are at, is the best we will get from him, regardless of the players we bring in (unless we had world class players who could win you games).

He's alright, he's a true Spurs loving manager, he sees the club philosophy and the ambition and he wants it so bad..But he'll never deliver us a major trophy. Fact. He's just not good enough. Whether he needs more time and experience with other clubs to gain more insight or appreciation I cant say, but for us, he will never drive us to trophy success.

He's just not astute enough, just not tactically aware enough and just not clever enough.

The reality is we're stuck with him for now. And until we move into the new stadium and maybe give him 1 year after that to get us settled we wont swap him for another manager I reckon. That's not my personal choice, as I'd like to amicably part with him at the end of this season and get in a manager I feel who could get us to the next level, beit a Conte or an Enrique or Simeone, but my feeling is we will have to get used to playing Europa league again for a few more years, see our best players leave and another wave of a new breed of young exciting players being brought in to replace them or come through the ranks to give us optimism.
That's the difference between Barcelona and Tottenham
 

brownhead

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Nov 19, 2006
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It’s not all Poch. His faults are he doesn’t have a Plan B for this type of game and leaves his subs too late.
What we need and we need Levy for this, is a world class player with either the pace to break through and unlock these teams or a world class player with the ability to dribble through and past 2 or 3 players into the box. Someone with both obviously ideal. But these match winners cost top dollar and want top wages. Levy doesn’t do that. So we need him to. It really is that simple
 
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I can't believe that we're not as good as Barca ... I fell off my Unicorn when I read that.
 

L-man

Misplaced pass from Dier
Dec 31, 2008
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Poch has no idea but here we have thfc1973, who has all the answers

Why oh why has this man not been given some of footballs biggest jobs?
 
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