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  • Lloris

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Aurier

    Votes: 34 21.3%
  • Sanchez

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Verts

    Votes: 16 10.0%
  • Davies

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Dier

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • Son

    Votes: 60 37.5%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 24 15.0%
  • Dele

    Votes: 7 4.4%
  • Kane

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Wanyama

    Votes: 1 0.6%
  • Llamela

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Llorente

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 2 1.3%
  • None Deserved

    Votes: 10 6.3%

  • Total voters
    160

Jgplk1

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Mar 16, 2005
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Poch has also continually got his FB rotation wrong, Aurier would have much more logical away at Swansea, where his pace and defending would have been more useful for their counters, whilst Trippier more logical in a game like this where his final ball might just have made a difference, or even better in the 3CB system as a WB.

I figured he picked Trippier against Swansea as Llorente was starting and he wanted to finally get some crosses into him
 

guiltyparty

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Sep 21, 2005
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The chances wernt all that great. More progressive passing from midfield could of disrupted their shape more, creating a bit more space to enhance the quality of those chances.

I'm not sure why some arnt getting this. We had a lot of possession and territory, which they were happy to cede and said come and break.us down, and we couldn't because we didn't create enough clear cut chances.

More quality on the ball would only of helped and increased our chances of doing so.

Indeed. The stats massively flatter us. We didn’t have that many clear cut chances and I don’t think the penalties were as clear cut as people are making out. It’s a classic us game, we’ve seen it so many times and it’s so frustrating we haven’t developed tactics to overcome it

But nice to see BC sensible on Aurier. Everyone was sucking him off in the match thread and I just couldn’t see it. His final ball was terrible. Not a bad game but he don’t half squander some good positions
 

elDiablo

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Feb 2, 2005
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Poch is a stubborn ol bastard, still love him, but he lets himself and the club down every game were he starts Sissoko in a game were the oppo has 10 men behind the ball.

Son and Aurier standout players.

Eriksen and Alli a lot of nearly moments.

Kane uncharacteristically off.

Vertonghen and Davies solid at the back.

Agree with the sissoko point. The guy is useful for counter attacking where he can use his running power on a bigger portion of pitch. Tight intricate passing in and around the box is not part of his skillset
 

stevenurse

Palacios' neck fat
May 14, 2007
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Sissoko was Sissoko. Never actively searched for the ball, something I hadn't seen until a few weeks ago. Mainly because he's often so anonymous that it'd hard to attribute a specific trait to him, but this is it.

Runs away from the ball 90% of the time and when he does receive it, plays the quickest, safest pass and even then often fuck it up. When absolutely forced to do something other than give it straight back to the player who passed to him, he uses that great talent of running with force into nowhere and inevitably losing the ball.

Creates nothing, brings nothing of note to the team. How he played 75 mins last night is almost criminal.

Call it scapegoating, but it's facts. He provides next to no tangible use to the team. You can count the number of good games one hand, and for the output of contribution to goals you wouldnt need one hand.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Dec 13, 2013
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Most things have been covered but the biggest frustration for me was the slow build up to any attack. Which i think supports the criticism of the cm, as when it got there, instead of 1 touch fast forward passing it went sideways, was stopped, went backward then ponderously faffed about until the am3 or Kane got it. If you service that attacking quartet with quick ball theyll thrive.

Did anyone see the handball replay out of interest? Was it clear or one of those marginal ones?
 

stevenurse

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May 14, 2007
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Agree with the sissoko point. The guy is useful for counter attacking where he can use his running power on a bigger portion of pitch. Tight intricate passing in and around the box is not part of his skillset

This 'running power' is a myth. I'm sorry but yes he can run into the opposition half with all the grace of bambi on ice, but it's what he does with it that matters. If this is his sole contribution then why not sign Usain Bolt?
 

Flashspur

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Jul 28, 2012
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Not the best game for us. Dominated the match. What was it, 30 shots on goal to 3 or 4 or somefink like that. You win some, you lose some. This was turgid defensive Moyes at his best (like those glorious years at Everton). We played into his hands and yes Poch could have done better with his selection and subs.

Fuck it, I am going to say I am happy with a point. These cockney ****s have been a banana peel for us too many times. You know every time we play them there is a potential turd on the horizon. Lets move on.
 

EastLondonYid

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Jan 26, 2010
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Poch keeping Sissoko on for so long was the only thing worse than Poch actually starting Sissoko .
i wanted to pull my teeth out to ease the pain watching him.ffs...enough now surely.
 
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Hazardousman

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Jul 24, 2013
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Ironically this is the time where you can question Poch within reason.

So, #Sherwoodin? Personally think Sherwood would get them running around a bit, world class manager he is innit.

On a serious note the only thing I really think Poch was guilty of last night was playing it too safe and not being brave enough with his subs, something he def needs to improve upon going forward.
 

Hazardousman

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Jul 24, 2013
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I have to say, I thought Sissoko was slightly improving, he had basically gone from complete shit not so shit but he has now reverted back to type.

I have no idea how he is even getting on the pitch, I suspect when Wanyama is fully fit he won't get anywhere near this side, if he does then I am seriously wondering why because as a footballer he offers nothing, I agree with @Bus-Conductor and his assessment on Sissoko.
 

seanwhite1961

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Nov 8, 2011
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Sissoko starting wasn't the main error from Poch - it was keeping him on after HT. Had Arnautovic and Carroll both been fit and started, it would have been easy to see the effect Sissoko could have had against a more expansive West Ham.
 

Japhet

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Aug 30, 2010
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Thought Mike Dien was tring to prove his impartiality a bit too hard. We had a couple of decent penalty shouts. Reid booted Alli in the process of trying to clear the ball and it looked to me like he connected with Alli first. Kane got pulled back in exactly the same way that Sanchez got yellow carded v Swansea. I've seen much softer pens given than both of those.
 

guiltyparty

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Sep 21, 2005
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This 'running power' is a myth. I'm sorry but yes he can run into the opposition half with all the grace of bambi on ice, but it's what he does with it that matters. If this is his sole contribution then why not sign Usain Bolt?

Couldn’t afford his wages
 

JimmyG2

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Dec 7, 2006
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No problem picking the wrong players in the wrong formation
with some players not available or not fully match fit (Rose, Winks, Wanyama,Lamela Demebele)
but after 15 minutes when all becomes clearer
CHANGE IT.

Poor show MR.Pochettino

Tried................................Dele,Son,Eriksen, Aurier, Verts
Tried and found wanting..Dier, Sissoko, Davies,Kane, Sanchez.

Team of two halves.

Lloris. Nothing to do. Fine save late on. The goal, probably unstoppable

Took Lamela 2 minutes to show the folly of keeping Sissoko on for the second half.
Changes should have been made earlier. Much earlier.At least one at half-time.
Cross fingers and hope management.

Still should have won it easily on shots and chances.
 

SlotBadger

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Jul 24, 2013
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I think the topic of Poch's lineup and subs has been covered, so I'd like to moan about something else;

  • Why the fuck did he keep players on for the full 90 minutes against Swansea when he was planning to start them (and, once more, let them play for the entire match) vs West Ham?
 

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