Ross Barkley signs for Chelsea

Rocksuperstar · Jan 5, 2018

I think one of the comments on the BBC nailed this - Barkley shows up at Chelsea, has a medical, they tell him to go back to Everton, get fit and they'll have him in the winter for half the money, then he can cash in a bigger signing on fee.

Dirty, considering he spent his time going on about how he's a huge Everton fan, that's a real low move. Still, guess it saves spending money on cushions, letting all the perennial reserves sit on the bench on top of their wallets.

SEANSPURS1975 · Jan 5, 2018

Put Barkley in the ‘Transfer Fiasco’ folder with numerous other players. There will always be some excuse... an injury concern, need to sell to buy, wages, fee, ran out of time, too expensive in January, wait until summer, bla, bla, bla.
Its not about losing out specifically on Barkley its about not trying to improve our squad in areas we obviously need. There is no question the squad needs improving.
We should all want the club to actively go out and improve the first team/squad rather than sit idly by while we watch our rivals do it.

mano-obe · Jan 5, 2018

I thought be was nailed on for us after refusing them last time. Is it his wage demands?

tiger666 · Jan 5, 2018

mano-obe said:
I thought be was nailed on for us after refusing them last time. Is it his wage demands?

You don't have access to the ITK forum?

mano-obe · Jan 5, 2018

tiger666 said:
You don't have access to the ITK forum?

I just got home mate and didn't glance through anything. Not sure if I do but will look! Thanks fella

danielneeds · Jan 5, 2018

0-Tibsy-0 said:
This isn't an ITK thread so I can't see why this can't be posted from GrandOldTeam:
The lad has had a grade 2 hamstring tear with complications - he will never be the player he could have become. We are well rid of him.
Avulsed hamstring was what I heard, I had to look it up! Apparently the rate of complications and re- ruptures is very high though so may never stay fully fit.

Knowing Chelsea's luck, guaranteed he plays over 300 games for them, and scores the winner from 25 yards against us at Stamford Bridge this season.

jurgen · Jan 5, 2018

am_yisrael_chai said:
Actually no we aren’t, great PR from Levy but we are spending £450m on the stadium, the other £550m is being spent on the hotel and house development. Even with the £450m I would think that about £50-100m is due to the NFL dimension to the stadium, the cost of the retractable pitch and associated works is huge.

The owners aren’t funding the stadium, they are going to rely on naming rights and securitisation of gate receipts, which will be the highest in the country. I’m not saying they have any requirement to put their hands in the pocket but let’s not laud them for investing anything other than what is effectively our money as the customers of the business.

I will go out on a limb here and say that the benevolent / forgiving mood among large parts of the fanbase with respect to Levy/ENIC will change dramatically when season ticket renewals come out and people see the price hikes. By way of example the announced prices for the 6,000 premium seats are 50-75% higher than at The Emirates, if anyone thinks that the premium seats will be subsidising the regular seats then dream on, i’ll bet anyone that our regular seats will be the most expensive in the country.

For me, this post is bang on. Yes, we need a new stadium, and it looks absolutely great, if full of the usual corporate guff, but to use the BSoDL parlance, 'be careful what you wish for'.

As well as the pitch costs, NFL already has its logo front and centre on the stadium site, with equal weighting to the football league we play in. If we're a little cynical - and we should be given Levy and Lewis are cut throat businessmen - you do wonder what happens to the stadium in the future should a London NFL franchise be established that is more profitable and newsworthy than Spurs.

Of course, the stadium could accommodate both easily due to its expensive design changes, but that raises the question what if we were no longer the 'primary' team to play there (whether symbolically or actually) despite ticket sales, fan money and the name of Spurs essentially being used to pay for the ground.

Ok, this is conjecture, and less likely than the above ticket price hikes, and not so much to do with Barkley but..

E17yid · Jan 5, 2018

I’m glad this has been all cleared up. Started off with the only thing stopping this deal was our reservations about his injury. Then it was we were concerned about his injury and we’ve got a superstar all lined up and agreed for the summer who’s a lot better. Now it’s the wages that was the problem even though Levy was happy to pay it but Poch said no.

Think we’ve got all our bases covered on this one.

Bus-Conductor · Jan 5, 2018

spursfan77 said:
I never get this "january isn't the best time to buy" line. Deals are negotiated all year round. They can just be completed in the transfer window. Summer or winter. In regards to when a deal can be completed there is no difference.

That's not the problem with doing business in January. It's very hard to extract decent quality players mid season because the selling clubs invariably are all still wanting to keep hold of them because they are either chasing league/CL position or fighting to maintain their position in their leagues etc. And selling your best player in Jan leaves you with very little chance of planning and replacing them.

spud · Jan 5, 2018

I have to say that I'm very disappointed with the fact that we're not signing Barkley as he ticks a number of boxes and certainly fits the mould of the type of players that we seem to buy. Whether today's ITK from Hertyid is true or not I can't help think this is a mistake. We would get an excellent english player who could be part of the team/squad for a while and who would no doubt be improved under Poch's tutelage.

If he did - as previous ITK had us believe - turn down Chelsea in the summer because he wanted to come here and we promised him that he would then this is doubly upsetting. Giving and withdrawing a promise to a player who wants to play for you is not a precedent that we should be setting and will hardly be beneficial when we are negotiating with other players.

All in all, if the scenario is as I understand it, we are making a big mistake here.

glacierSpurs · Jan 5, 2018

Rocksuperstar said:
I think one of the comments on the BBC nailed this - Barkley shows up at Chelsea, has a medical, they tell him to go back to Everton, get fit and they'll have him in the winter for half the money, then he can cash in a bigger signing on fee.

Dirty, considering he spent his time going on about how he's a huge Everton fan, that's a real low move. Still, guess it saves spending money on cushions, letting all the perennial reserves sit on the bench on top of their wallets.

Omg.. If this is true.. Jeez.. Guess that makes him the right player for them.

spids · Jan 5, 2018

January is a great time to offload players to desperate clubs for inflated fees. Usually the biggest deals are done by clubs who have had a bad first half of the season. Everton spending £27M on a Turkish CF for example. Don't be surprised to see clubs like West Ham, Swansea, Southampton etc. all throw money at average players this month.

spids · Jan 5, 2018

Rocksuperstar said:
I think one of the comments on the BBC nailed this - Barkley shows up at Chelsea, has a medical, they tell him to go back to Everton, get fit and they'll have him in the winter for half the money, then he can cash in a bigger signing on fee.

Dirty, considering he spent his time going on about how he's a huge Everton fan, that's a real low move. Still, guess it saves spending money on cushions, letting all the perennial reserves sit on the bench on top of their wallets.

That is very harsh. What club were going to spend £25M-£30M on a player who clearly was not going to be fit until the following January when his fee would be 50% lower?

Just surprised Chelsea have not told him to wait until the summer when he's proved he is fully over a very serious, potentially career changing / ending hamstring injury. They're taking quite a risk on Barkley if they're paying £15M now and putting him on what I presume is £150k per week basic, plus a hefty signing on fee having not seen him play since his injury.

Thewobbler · Jan 5, 2018

Barkley was always going to go for the big wages, He has just had a really bad injury so 5 years on 110k plus a week sees him secure.

Chelsea have taken the risk on him now so they didnt have to fight for him in the summer. Plus hes english and they need some homegrown players.

nedley · Jan 5, 2018

Shame we didn't get him wuth Poch clearly a fan.

I look forward to seeing who we bring in as an alternative considering Poch has wanted this type of player since the begining of 2017.

Wheeler Dealer · Jan 5, 2018

That's Barkley crossed off the list, lets move on to Zaha and Sessengon until we can then cross them both off in the next couple of weeks..

Japhet · Jan 5, 2018

spud said:
I have to say that I'm very disappointed with the fact that we're not signing Barkley as he ticks a number of boxes and certainly fits the mould of the type of players that we seem to buy. Whether today's ITK from Hertyid is true or not I can't help think this is a mistake. We would get an excellent english player who could be part of the team/squad for a while and who would no doubt be improved under Poch's tutelage.

If he did - as previous ITK had us believe - turn down Chelsea in the summer because he wanted to come here and we promised him that he would then this is doubly upsetting. Giving and withdrawing a promise to a player who wants to play for you is not a precedent that we should be setting and will hardly be beneficial when we are negotiating with other players.

All in all, if the scenario is as I understand it, we are making a big mistake here.

I would imagine that we stipulated that he should have recovered from his injury for us to sign him, which is clearly not the case. I don't think that is treating the player badly at all - it's being sensible about laying out £40,000,000. Losing money like that means fuck all to Chelsea, but it makes a difference to us.

TheChosenOne · Jan 5, 2018

Thewobbler said:
Barkley was always going to go for the big wages, He has just had a really bad injury so 5 years on 110k plus a week sees him secure.

Chelsea have taken the risk on him now so they didnt have to fight for him in the summer. Plus hes english and they need some homegrown players.

They looking to get Carroll on lendzies from West Ham lol

Wheeler Dealer · Jan 5, 2018

TheChosenOne said:
They looking to get Carroll on lendzies from West Ham lol

If I were West Ham, I'd drive him there in a flash..

spursfan77 · Jan 5, 2018

Will be interesting to see if the sc itk guys say anything about hertyid's news. What he's said could be what they were alluding to.

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