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dontcallme

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TottenhamMattSpur said:
I genuinely feel teams are parking the bus more at Wembley than other places.
West Ham mostly had all 11 players around the 6 yard line yesterday. Swansea and West Brom were no better.
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I disagree that other top sides aren't having to deal with parking the bus.

But even if it were true this wouldn't help our issue. Moaning that other teams park the bus does not help us break them down.

This is a challenge we need to face or we will continue to be frustrated. I believe intelligent passers from deep will help but this is not the route Poch has gone down.
 
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dontcallme said:
I disagree that other top sides aren't having to deal with parking the bus.

But even if it were true this wouldn't help our issue. Moaning that other teams park the bus does not help us break them down.

This is a challenge we need to face or we will continue to be frustrated. I believe intelligent passers from deep will help but this is not the route Poch has gone down.
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I didn't say they weren't parking the bus elsewhere. I said it's worse at Wembley. Teams are going to even more extremes there than elsewhere. Especially the ones that rarely get to play there.
I genuinely believe no one would have won that game yesterday. And it'll happen a lot this season. Fans need to recognise it and not get on the players back so badly.
 
lukespurs7

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We don’t have enough quality and varied attacking players who can break down parked bus defences simple as that, many of us on here have been saying this for about two seasons now. Also at Wembley with a flat atmosphere we lose our home advantage which is really key in tight games against bus park teams when the team need a lift from the fans.

If we sign a Marhez/Richarlison type and a top class creative CM we will be fine.
 
Spurs72

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Because we have a Manager that has Given us wins in more games , CL Footy,EL Footy, 2nd place finish 2x and a 3rd place finish, Attractive Football, some guys are willing to give this team a pass, they are willing to give this Manager a pass and a pass is good, if we win like a cup or 2, then so am I but if we are the Same ole Same ole then what are we really trying to do.

if we do not make a good run in this FA Cup and Push on to get 4th, then MP should not be the Man to lead us into the new Stadium if he is then we will do good but we will be "Also Ran" who wants to always be a Also Ran, at this moment in time Southampton are an Also Ran.
 
lukespurs7

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Spurs72 said:
Because we have a Manager that has Given us wins in more games , CL Footy,EL Footy, 2nd place finish 2x and a 3rd place finish, Attractive Football, some guys are willing to give this team a pass, they are willing to give this Manager a pass and a pass is good, if we win like a cup or 2, then so am I but if we are the Same ole Same ole then what are we really trying to do.

if we do not make a good run in this FA Cup and Push on to get 4th, then MP should not be the Man to lead us into the new Stadium if he is then we will do good but we will be "Also Ran" who wants to always be a Also Ran, at this moment in time Southampton are an Also Ran.
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Utter fucking bollocks.
 
'O Zio

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Spurs72 said:
if we do not make a good run in this FA Cup and Push on to get 4th, then MP should not be the Man to lead us into the new Stadium if he is then we will do good but we will be "Also Ran" who wants to always be a Also Ran, at this moment in time Southampton are an Also Ran.
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Seriously? So if we get to the FA Cup semi-final or something he's a genius but if not we should sack him? :rolleyes:

Good grief.

And if we don't get the "good cup run" you're so desperately craving, who do you suggest we replace him with? Let me guess, a "proper football man" like 'Arry?
 
Spurs72

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'O Zio said:
Seriously? So if we get to the FA Cup semi-final or something he's a genius but if not we should sack him? :rolleyes:

Good grief.

And if we don't get the "good cup run" you're so desperately craving, who do you suggest we replace him with? Let me guess, a "proper football man" like 'Arry?
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Pochettino I did say has done well but if he cannot push us on from this then he is not the man to lead us forward FFS how is what I said hard to comprehend.
 
dontcallme

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Spurs72 said:
Pochettino I did say has done well but if he cannot push us on from this then he is not the man to lead us forward FFS how is what I said hard to comprehend.
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Not hard to understand. I just don't see the good in firing a manager every time a season doesn't go perfectly.
 
Spurs72

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If We prefer to come in 4th or 5th with a good cup run every now and then, then ok Pochettino it is, if we want to push on to win things then Pochettino is not that person imo, not taking anything away from what he has done it just Seems to be all he can do atm
 
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Lilbaz

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Spurs72 said:
If We prefer to come in 4th or 5th with a good cup run every now and then, then ok Pochettino it is, if we want to push on to win things then Pochettino is not that person imo, not taking anything away from what he has done it just Seems to be all he can do atm
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We should get rid of kane aswell. Obviously he's not good enough to win us a trophy.
 
'O Zio

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Spurs72 said:
Pochettino I did say has done well but if he cannot push us on from this then he is not the man to lead us forward FFS how is what I said hard to comprehend.
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I comprehend just fine. I just completely and utterly disagree with you. Just as dontcallme says, sacking the manager just because we have a disappointing season won't achieve anything. We've come such a long way under Poch so sacking him because we don't get a cup run is just ridiculous, especially when there isn't really anyone out there who would be demonstrably better.
 
Spurs72

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dontcallme said:
Not hard to understand. I just don't see the good in firing a manager every time a season doesn't go perfectly.
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I don't want it to go "Perfectly" I just think that the Manager MP could help us do better and he has but he has not imo stressed the importance of a game like yesterday, he does not Stress the Importance when you start a guy Sissoko
 
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Spurs72 said:
Because we have a Manager that has Given us wins in more games , CL Footy,EL Footy, 2nd place finish 2x and a 3rd place finish, Attractive Football, some guys are willing to give this team a pass, they are willing to give this Manager a pass and a pass is good, if we win like a cup or 2, then so am I but if we are the Same ole Same ole then what are we really trying to do.

if we do not make a good run in this FA Cup and Push on to get 4th, then MP should not be the Man to lead us into the new Stadium if he is then we will do good but we will be "Also Ran" who wants to always be a Also Ran, at this moment in time Southampton are an Also Ran.
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Go home and have a word with yourself.
 
dontcallme

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Spurs72 said:
I don't want it to go "Perfectly" I just think that the Manager MP could help us do better and he has but he has not imo stressed the importance of a game like yesterday, he does not Stress the Importance when you start a guy Sissoko
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I don't think the issue is Poch doesn'tunderstand the importance of such games.

I don't think he plays Sissoko because he underestimates a team.

I think he sees value in Sissoko's physicality. I believe he is wrong on this point in general but overall in my view he is very much the man to take us forward.
 
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