F.A. Cup 2017/18

riggi · Jan 7, 2018

Ionman34 · Jan 7, 2018

SpursD22 said:
It wasn’t a penalty and Dowell hit the ball 2 times on the penalty, the goal shouldn’t have counted but it makes it much better. Arsenal deserve this

It was a pen. Whilst Debuchy got the ball, he went through Traore to get it.

Even with slow mo it is unclear whether he hit it twice.

Lovely seeing the goons desperately pleading for this just to stay in the game against Forest...

Championship...

14th place...

No Manager...

LMFAO!!!

Sandros Shiny Head · Jan 7, 2018

How can you not put at least 1 of your main players on the bench just in case? You deserve to lose when Calum Chambers is your most experienced sub

SpursD22 · Jan 7, 2018

Ionman34 said:
It was a pen. Whilst Debuchy got the ball, he went through Traore to get it.

Even with slow mo it is unclear whether he hit it twice.

Lovely seeing the goons desperately pleading for this just to stay in the game against Forest...

Championship...

14th place...

No Manager...

LMFAO!!!

I thought it was 50-50 the first time I saw it but now after watching it again I agree with you.

sebo_sek · Jan 7, 2018

SpursD22 said:
I thought it was 50-50 the first time I saw it but now after watching it again I agree with you.

When I watched it live, I thought Debuchy had taken half Traore's foot off. It was THAT obvious.

spursfan77 · Jan 7, 2018

Sandros Shiny Head said:
How can you not put at least 1 of your main players on the bench just in case? You deserve to lose when Calum Chambers is your most experienced sub

Arrogance

Phomesy · Jan 7, 2018

We need to sign Brereton of Forest. Any Aussie Rules fans on here will know the name and pedigree

Shadydan · Jan 8, 2018

Wenger really did fuck up with the subs didn't he, he should have had a couple of first teamers on the bench, you have to say that it was pure and utter arrogance and if he doesn't get a result on Wednesday he's gonna look mighty stupid.

TheChosenOne · Jan 8, 2018

Shadydan said:
Wenger really did fuck up with the subs didn't he, he should have had a couple of first teamers on the bench, you have to say that it was pure and utter arrogance and if he doesn't get a result on Wednesday he's gonna look mighty stupid.

Arse spanked Forest 4-0 in the League Cup last season using a weakened side and decided
that it would work again.

1882andallthat · Jan 8, 2018

riggi said:
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Arrogant fans like this, with a sense of entitlement, deserve to spend the next 50 - 60 years seeing their team(s) missing out on silverware.

WalkerboyUK · Jan 8, 2018

TheChosenOne said:
Tomorrow nights Brighton v Palace wil have the VAR available.

Question is - would VAR have made a difference with the 2nd penalty being given as a goal?
It took way too long to find a replay angle that made it 100% clear that it did clip the standing/slipping foot.
VAR is going to need a decision to be made within 10 seconds at the most - not 2/3 minutes.

Gb160 · Jan 8, 2018

WalkerboyUK said:
Question is - would VAR have made a difference with the 2nd penalty being given as a goal?
It took way too long to find a replay angle that made it 100% clear that it did clip the standing/slipping foot.
VAR is going to need a decision to be made within 10 seconds at the most - not 2/3 minutes.

Im not sure any replay of that made it a clear cut case, so I dont see how they could've disallowed it...although its very likely thats what happened, they cant be 100% sure.
The only angle that couldve proven it would be from directly behind the goal, or just to the side....but I haven't seen any replays like that yet.

Whats so outlandish about that @Armchair ?

TheChosenOne · Jan 8, 2018

WalkerboyUK said:
Question is - would VAR have made a difference with the 2nd penalty being given as a goal?
It took way too long to find a replay angle that made it 100% clear that it did clip the standing/slipping foot.
VAR is going to need a decision to be made within 10 seconds at the most - not 2/3 minutes.

True enough in this instance.

Gb160 · Jan 8, 2018

When are the Chelsea/West Ham replays anyone?

WalkerboyUK · Jan 8, 2018

Good article on how VAR will work:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/what-var-how-work-whats-11814289

TheChosenOne · Jan 8, 2018

Replay dates ...

16 th Jan
Chelsea v Norwich

Leicester v Fleetwood Town

Mansfield Town v Cardiff

Reading v Stevenage (8pm kick off)

Sheffield Wednesday v Carlisle

Swansea v Wolves

West Ham v Shrewsbury

Wednesday 17 January

Wigan v Bournemouth

talkshowhost86 · Jan 8, 2018

Gb160 said:
Im not sure any replay of that made it a clear cut case, so I dont see how they could've disallowed it...although its very likely thats what happened, they cant be 100% sure.
The only angle that couldve proven it would be from directly behind the goal, or just to the side....but I haven't seen any replays like that yet.

It's an interesting example of how VAR won't take the human error issues out of decision making.

I think even the most jaundiced of Spurs fans must realise that it hit both feet, simply because there's no real way the ball could have gone in that direction otherwise.

But you're right that by looking at the replay alone, there's no clear indication that it hits both feet, so the ref would still need to make the call.

I hope there's a really contentious call in the M23 derby tonight. Give VAR a proper test.

Gb160 · Jan 8, 2018

talkshowhost86 said:
It's an interesting example of how VAR won't take the human error issues out of decision making.

I think even the most jaundiced of Spurs fans must realise that it hit both feet, simply because there's no real way the ball could have gone in that direction otherwise.

But you're right that by looking at the replay alone, there's no clear indication that it hits both feet, so the ref would still need to make the call.

I hope there's a really contentious call in the M23 derby tonight. Give VAR a proper test.

Its bound to be the most dull, eventless match in football history.

WalkerboyUK · Jan 8, 2018

talkshowhost86 said:
It's an interesting example of how VAR won't take the human error issues out of decision making.

I think even the most jaundiced of Spurs fans must realise that it hit both feet, simply because there's no real way the ball could have gone in that direction otherwise.

But you're right that by looking at the replay alone, there's no clear indication that it hits both feet, so the ref would still need to make the call.

I hope there's a really contentious call in the M23 derby tonight. Give VAR a proper test.

It's also going to be interesting in terms of handballs for penalties.
Referee still has to ultimately decide if it was intent or natural reaction/ball to hand.
VAR may say "well his hand was out in front of him, therefore it's deliberate", but there has to be some accounting for whether that's natural movement or a defender's conscious choice to put hand out.

Mate · Jan 8, 2018

Phomesy said:
We need to sign Brereton of Forest. Any Aussie Rules fans on here will know the name and pedigree

I bought him on FIFA, and can vouch that he becomes one hell of a player!

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