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'O Zio

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His comments seem perfectly sensible to me and nothing to panic about. We all know that he loves the club and ideally wants to achieve success here, but ultimately he wants to be successful and if it can't be here then it'll have to be somewhere else. If the club keep moving forwards like we have been then we have nothing to worry about.
 

Hazardousman

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His comments seem perfectly sensible to me and nothing to panic about. We all know that he loves the club and ideally wants to achieve success here, but ultimately he wants to be successful and if it can't be here then it'll have to be somewhere else. If the club keep moving forwards like we have been then we have nothing to worry about.

So, you’re telling me we aren’t selling him during this window?
 

'O Zio

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So, you’re telling me we aren’t selling him during this window?

Definitely not. Like I say, if we carry on as we are we don't have anything to worry about. If we suddenly have a fire-sale and drop down to competing with Burnley for who can finish 8th then he'll probably leave. I'm surprised people are shocked by that, it's just common sense. He wants to win, first and foremost, and to win with us would be a dream come true, but if that's not possible then he might need to explore his options down the line.

It's a completely obvious state of affairs and always has been. Like I say, I don't get what all the fuss is about.
 

Johnny J

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Anyone sensible will realise we cannot compete financially with City, who are funded by a fucking country, and a rich one at that. I wouldn't be surprised at all if City (or PSG, also country-backed) bought out Messi's release clause tomorrow. They have the money to do that.

We are some way off Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal and especially United financially, but we're competing against them on the field reasonably well this season.

If (big if) we up the wages and spend a metric fuckton this summer, and manage to hold on our players, and settle in at the new Lane, we'll be set up for being next-best after City, and possible give them a run for their money in the league. It's not impossible that we could win the league, but it would depend on everything going right for us, not only in terms of transfers, but during the season, Leicester style.

And having Kane, I believe, is the clearest motivator for Levy et al to really push the boat out this summer. He's legitimately one of the best strikers in the world - in the top 5 imo - and any club would want him, even Norwich, and he cost us nothing (in transfer fees). Inevitably we'll get offers for him (almost certainly have already) and like it or not we're vulnerable to losing him in a way that City/Barca/Real wouldn't be. The team is built around him and the fans adore him. But if we don't show ambition, he will leave. So it's now or never.

Edit: to those who say, "if we carry on the way we are, we have nothing to worry about", I disagree. I think we've made tremendous progress, but so much of our on-field success is down to Kane himself. He's not stupid: like anyone on here, he'll want to see us investing in better players than Sissoko.
 

guiltyparty

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If (big if) we up the wages and spend a metric fuckton this summer, and manage to hold on our players, and settle in at the new Lane, we'll be set up for being next-best after City, [

I agree with your edit, but the above bit is just so beyond the realms of possibility, I dunno why people get their hopes up

So you reckon we’ll up our wages significantly, spend a fuckton on new players AND hit the ground running at the new stadium? I can see one of those things happening, two if we’re very lucky.

But even if all 3 happened, the idea that we’d be second best set behind City is an incredibly bold statement. Not to mention that if we’re out of champions league next season, which is more likely than unlikely, there will be players beyond a pay rise keeping them here
 

Johnny J

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I agree with your edit, but the above bit is just so beyond the realms of possibility, I dunno why people get their hopes up

So you reckon we’ll up our wages significantly, spend a fuckton on new players AND hit the ground running at the new stadium? I can see one of those things happening, two if we’re very lucky.

But even if all 3 happened, the idea that we’d be second best set behind City is an incredibly bold statement. Not to mention that if we’re out of champions league next season, which is more likely than unlikely, there will be players beyond a pay rise keeping them here
If I had to bet, then no, I don't reckon it will happen. But it's possible, if we are determined to make a statement, and going by recent ITK.

I don't think it's crazy to think that we'd then potentially move ahead of the other big clubs in terms of performance. Our team is already valued second after City's, so there no reason to think that with some key additions we wouldn't extend that.

I agree that CL is necessary and that it's all more likely to not happen, but Kane is the type of player that clubs dream about and if we don't give it our all, he'll be off - that's just reality.
 

tototoner

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42607161

Tottenham striker Harry Kane 'third most expensive in world', says CIES study

CIES' projected transfer values (in euros)

1. Neymar (PSG) -213m
2. Lionel Messi (Barcelona) -202.2m
3. Harry Kane (Tottenham) -194.7m
4. Kylian Mbappe (PSG) -192.5m
5. Paulo Dybala (Juventus) -174.6m

6. Dele Alli (Tottenham) -171.3m
7. Kevin de Bruyne (Man City) -167.8m
8. Romelu Lukaku (Man Utd) -164.8m
9. Antoine Griezmann (Atletico Madrid) -150.2m

10. Paul Pogba (Man Utd) -147.5m
 

Donki

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42607161

Tottenham striker Harry Kane 'third most expensive in world', says CIES study

CIES' projected transfer values (in euros)

1. Neymar (PSG) -213m
2. Lionel Messi (Barcelona) -202.2m
3. Harry Kane (Tottenham) -194.7m
4. Kylian Mbappe (PSG) -192.5m
5. Paulo Dybala (Juventus) -174.6m

6. Dele Alli (Tottenham) -171.3m
7. Kevin de Bruyne (Man City) -167.8m
8. Romelu Lukaku (Man Utd) -164.8m
9. Antoine Griezmann (Atletico Madrid) -150.2m

10. Paul Pogba (Man Utd) -147.5m

How is Lukaku on there?
 

mattie g

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Turning point there I feel, 1st time he seems to have even openly acknowledged the possibility of leaving, starting to soften his stance and prepare us... Crazy wages elsewhere still has to be the main reason, they go hand in hand anyway, highest wage payers get the trophies normally, so effectively saying wants more money too...

How in God's name did you come to that conclusion?
 

danielneeds

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And having Kane, I believe, is the clearest motivator for Levy et al to really push the boat out this summer. He's legitimately one of the best strikers in the world - in the top 5 imo - and any club would want him, even Norwich, and he cost us nothing (in transfer fees). Inevitably we'll get offers for him (almost certainly have already) and like it or not we're vulnerable to losing him in a way that City/Barca/Real wouldn't be. The team is built around him and the fans adore him. But if we don't show ambition, he will leave. So it's now or never.
As much as having Kane on the field, the biggest motivator for Levy to keep him happy here is that we won't attract the top end sponsorship deals and tie ups that he's looking for in the new stadium without bonfa fide marquee players - and he is unquestionably one of the biggest in the world now. There is a reason the super clubs are currently prepared to spend £200m for a player - it's because the marketing opportunities that come with those super stars are infinite. It's not just selling a few shirts like the old days, it's club partnerships, online advertising, summer tours.

Keeping Kane is also sound business if Levy has his eyes wide open.
 
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Johnny J

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As much as having Kane on the field, the biggest motivator for Levy to keep him happy here is that we won't attract the top end sponsorship deals and tie ups that he's looking for in the new stadium without bonfa fide marquee players - and he is unquestionably one of the biggest in the world now. There is a reason the super clubs are prepared to spend £200m for a player now - it's because the marketing opportunities that come with the super stars are infinite now. It's not just selling a few shirts like the old days, it's club partnerships, online advertising, summer tours.

Keeping Kane is also sound business if Levy has his eyes wide open.
Absolutely. He's the kind of player you can build the club around, and on top of that he's home grown.
 

WiganSpur

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I have a feeling that everyone's waiting on what happens in the summer, from what I've heard it certainly feels like there's gonna be wind of change in regards to contracts and wages.
It seems we get these kind of promises every year from the board though don't we. "Poch has a warchest", "Levy will break the wage structure", "We'll get players in for pre-season this time".

I'll be willing to bet by August 8 there'll be no new signings and slow progress on the contracts. I'll very much believe it when I see it in terms of us getting that top class CM and getting Toby, Kane, Eriksen, Dele etc tied down.
 

SPURSLIFE

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How though? Eventually we will have to match them because if we don't they will just keep spending until they form a squad that will win trophies more often than not.

Sure we might win the odd trophy here and there if we continue doing things the way we are but if we want to become the biggest club in world football then the only way is to compete financially in my opinion.
"Become the biggest club in world football" We are a long way off from becoming the biggest club in our own league so that's a dream that's not going to happen I'm afraid.
 

SPURSLIFE

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We need to stop the fixation with just spending more money.

I don't care how we do it, as long we improve the weak areas in our squad. We win trophies by having very little to no weaknesses. If we focus on ourselves and not our opponents, we will win trophies. I just think in recent years we've still shot ourselves in the foot too much and we've come up short as a result.

What DL has to be prepared to do is ensure our weaknesses are covered. In some cases that may be being bold enough to splurge £50m on a player who could make all the difference.

A 50 mil player would want higher wages than Levy is prepared to pay so that's why we can't get them. I'd rather he spent that 50 mil on making the players wages comparable to the other top clubs that would do us more good in the long run and would certaily stop the players of thinking what they could be earning. They would try that bit harder get those extra points and stay for a lot longer if we then go on and win things. But if we pay lower wages and not in the running for the league they will all be gone in a year. The summer is crucial for us if we haven't won anything and it's getting to look more like that then all the top clubs in Europe will be making ridiculous offers for the likes of Kane, Ali, Aldo, Erikson and we can't stop them moving on. and if that happens Poch will be just a memory. We should have won the league twice in the last 3 seasons when the "Big Boys" were on a sabbatical but we bottled it. They're now back from holiday and taking over again. Oh another thing, guess what Leicester have on their CV.
 

SPURSLIFE

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I have a feeling that everyone's waiting on what happens in the summer, from what I've heard it certainly feels like there's gonna be wind of change in regards to contracts and wages.

Other than Aldo they all have contracts for the next 4 or 5 years. It's more money that they need and obviously trophies.
 
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