The Spurs Youth Thread - 2017/2018
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Frozen_Waffles
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I know this is going to sound bad, but if I were KWP, Onomah and Edwards I would seriously be thinking about leaving Spurs.
What is the point? They have shown they are good enough to get a chance but they don't get games KWP played his what second game against Wimbledon? Edwards - nothing?
Onomah was getting sub appearances on the RW last year and now he is on loan playing up front. Except for Winks Poch is, for whatever reason not giving these players a chance.
KWP, especially, should be playing 10-15 games minimum this season.
What is the point? They have shown they are good enough to get a chance but they don't get games KWP played his what second game against Wimbledon? Edwards - nothing?
Onomah was getting sub appearances on the RW last year and now he is on loan playing up front. Except for Winks Poch is, for whatever reason not giving these players a chance.
KWP, especially, should be playing 10-15 games minimum this season.
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Lilbaz
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At kwp's age kane and rose were both loaned out. They did alright didn't they?
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Anyone know about this Harrison/Yeovil incident?
Winks and Kane didn’t really establish as 1st team regulars till 21. Edwards is still only 19. KWP And Onomah 20. I think their progression is in line. No idea how you’d be giving KWP 15 game would mean dropping trips/ Aurier for 7/8 games each. I agree KWP has problem if Trippier doesn’t leave next season. But if were him I’d take a season loan next season. He may never get another chance with a top 6 club be foolish to throw it away before 22.
I wonder how much power do our U23 managers have? Do they have final say or do they need to listen to Poch&McDermott
As in article said Burnett keep playing players those have no future here. Why? Whose decision is this?(Burnett,Poch and McDermott or all of them)
Another example was when Ugo kept playing Amos at LB in his most important year(imo). and Walkes as No.10.
I think the simple facts are they just make up the numbers because we don’t have 15 that would all be prospects. It’s same if you look at year 1 and 2. We all know that half of that lot have no chance but I’m sure a few will still make development squad purely for numbers. But for me U23 is a bit of a mess which is probably why we are bottom of league. Mish mash on selection not playing eligible players like KWP TOB foyth. The contrast to U18/19 is pretty startling. I think Parker agreeing to come may have been that he has a fair amount of control. To me would make sense if Parker had full control of both groups would be much more cohesive. Otherwise maybe bring a more high profile name to take control of U23 and let McDermott do all the behind scenes stuff.But defo think U23 group needs a rethink.
beats1
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At Kwp's age,
kane had at least first team 71 appearances
Rose had at least first team 35 appearances however he also missed a season due to a knee injury that led to his position change
Lilbaz
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You sure? At 20 years old kane was at loan at norwich. I can't remember him appearing for us 71 times before that? He then went to leicester.
Rose was on loan at bristol aged 20.
Hakkz
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Isn't KWP seen as a better prospect than the other 2 at that point as well?
beats1
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I was talking about loan appearances as well
Kane actually at 20 was starting to get a chance over soldado in the first team under sherwood
TottenhamLegend
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We're at home to Chelsea (or West Brom) in the Last 16 of the FA Youth Cup, if we beat Bournemouth.
Lilbaz
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For the last 6 games of the season. Who's to say kwp doesn't get more games this season? It will be tough as trips and aurier are better than soldado was for us.
Wouldn't mind seeing him go on loan though.
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Kane loan appearances are irrelevant tbh. We are talking about spurs 1st team. I don’t see any panic. The player most worried imo should be Onomah. If I was him I’d come back and fight for place. He’s impressing nobody at Villa. Meanwhile winks is likely to edge further ahead of him. And there’s little doubt we will buy a CM in summer. Villa was a bad move tbh he needed a PL team.
beats1
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KWP is better than Rose at that age but Kane was a weird case where he was rated by people by people watching youth matches and not by everyone else
They arent irrelevant, having a player who has played a lot of first team games before they get a shot in the first team is a good way to prepare a footballer before they become a regular as opposed to a handful of games
True which is why I didnt include those games in that total and Im not writing off KWP chances yet
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I love this thread but the way it often dissolves into "player X had played Y times by the time he wa Z years old" and those variables shift and wobble in all sort of back assward ways to make a meaningless point is very dull and tiring. You guys can do better.
KWP is probably the first youth player under Poch's tenure that I've looked at and thought we need to really put our eggs in this basket and bleed him. I understand getting Aurier but Trippier as our #2 and first choice RB always had major red flags (even if Trippier's performance at Wembley vs. Madrid is one of my legit favorites of this season).
KWP is probably the first youth player under Poch's tenure that I've looked at and thought we need to really put our eggs in this basket and bleed him. I understand getting Aurier but Trippier as our #2 and first choice RB always had major red flags (even if Trippier's performance at Wembley vs. Madrid is one of my legit favorites of this season).
beats1
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The point was it just highlights the fact that most of the players in our team had a good bit of first team experience before they broke in to our team and when they were at the same age
Also look at the two young players who broke through under Poch, who both weren't expected to be first team players straight away:
Dier - had about 30 first team apps before breaking through under poch
Alli - had about 90 first team apps before his break
Then you have KWP who is a 3rd choice RB who isnt playing football out on loan and isnt even playing reserve/u23 matches. He is suffering from a clear lack of football. Training only goes so far
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