Lilbaz
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Really doubt lewis/levy would be spending extra money on the stadium if they didn't think there would be a return.
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Really doubt lewis/levy would be spending extra money on the stadium if they didn't think there would be a return.
spids
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I am sure that the sponsorship / partnership deals available to us with an NFL audience will be very lucrative. We were building the new stadium anyway, so only significant extra costs are for the retractable pitch. Even without NFL games, the retractable pitch will allow us to host concerts and other events without damaging the playing surface. We can have up to 16 non-football events a year I believe (may be wrong). I imagine this will also yield significant income compared to when we were at the old WHL.
Hoopspur
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Amazing illusion as I drive by it....I wouldn't be so sure. Some guy on Twitter said the stadium being built is an optical illusion.
Phischy
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I heard it's proper Star Trek Hologram type tech, costs about the same price as a 55-60k stadium to implement and install... so not used often, impressive though, right?
SpartanSpur
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I'm sure I read yesterday the NFL saying they have Wembley or Twickenham pencilled in as contingencies if the stadium is not ready, for what it's worth. All seems promising on this front however and I don't think they would have announced this unless it was looking very probable that the stadium would be ready on time.
I certainly hope so as I want to buy tickets for this game and it being elsewhere would be a massive come-down!
Sandro30
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Does anybody know the numbers of row's between the entrance into the south stand and the pitch? Trying to work out if I want to be above or below the entrances.
I have tried to count but either my eyes aren't good enough or the picture doesn't have enough pixels to make it easy enough!
I have tried to count but either my eyes aren't good enough or the picture doesn't have enough pixels to make it easy enough!
davidmatzdorf
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You're both right. It's a risk assessment, just like everything about the development ...everything about every development.
Having committed themselves to building a stadium, they decided to commit themselves to a major extra expenditure, in the hope of generating major additional revenue and capital value. I'm certain that they assessed the risks and benefits with great care, but that doesn't make the risks go away. It's possible to do everything right and still not get the result you wanted. That's a definition of risk and it's an unavoidable consequence of development.
You can manage risk, but you can't eradicate it.
thebenjamin
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I think our WHL pitch was actually partly synthetic and sewn together in the same way the NWHL pitch will be, so I don't think that's going to be a problem. What I am a bit concerned about is that the football pitch is going to be suspended above the NFL pitch, and how's that's going to affect the feel of the pitch, the bounce of the ball etc. For example, Monaco's pitch, which is suspended above a car park, is apparently horrible to play on as the ball bounces unnaturally high due to it being hollow underneath the tray on which its suspended. I presume they've thought about this but not sure how you can really know until its done.
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If it makes the pitch do something odd that can only be to our benefit as we'll be the ones with the most time to get used to it.
Unless they accidentally install land mines in the centre circle or something.
thebenjamin
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Surely we don't want to go to all this trouble to end up with the single most important part - the bit where the football is played - being substandard?
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Depends what you mean by 'sub-standard'.
I would suggest that if they accidentally left a hole in each goalmouth then yes that would be an issue.
But if the ball bounces slightly differently then that's something we could take advantage of to a small degree.
Either way I'm fairly certain that how the pitch actually plays will certainly have been considered during the project.
LexingtonSpurs
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I agree with @talkshowhost86 and, based on the video Spurs put out on the turf - they put together a working mock-up of the system at the training grounds - I don't think it will have much effect - the grass field is pretty close to the underlying artificial turf field. And, any idiosyncrasies would be to Spurs benefit, based on familiarity - just as a smaller pitch at WHL was a benefit.
This is the video Spurs put out showing how the system will work, and showing the working mock-up at the training grounds.
This is the video Spurs put out showing how the system will work, and showing the working mock-up at the training grounds.
tottenmal
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One of the effects these trays will have is our pitch will be the only flat natural pitch in the league. Most have a camber, (hence you can only see a player from the waist up on the other side of the pitch, if your stood on the touch line) to help with drainage etc. Since these will be on trays that won’t be the case.
Croftwoodspurs
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I might be think here, cue for abuse... lol
But I don't get this mock-up they show the pitch being split length ways, and then running up. I can see this happening because the runners would interfere with astro turf pitch, also we don't have the space behind the stadium.
In my mind I always thought it would split across the side, and then it would use the side rollers, and also require less space under the stadium.
THFCSPURS19
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I mean it is factually happening so there we go.
LexingtonSpurs
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The field has to split to fit under the south end of the stadium - there are concrete pillars underneath the stands for support, where the field is stored - so the field will split to go around those pillars.
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Lilbaz
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We have the public square behind the stand the pitch goes under that.
You can't have it split across the side easily as those stands wouldn't be able to support the weight (of themselves and spectators).
Phischy
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I don't really understand your point here (particularly what you mean by 'split across the side'), but the video is 100% a representation of what has been designed and is being built.
There is a large cavern (which I the plans seem to show has a secondary purpose as a car park when not storing the pitch) under and behind the South Stand effectively where the old stadium was and the buildings (and public realm) are organised to ensure there's not too much weight over it. There is literally no room under any other stand. All this is public realm and can be found in this thread or the planning application.
In terms of the tracks, such a large mass would need to be supported in a number of areas and would need a complex system to move, so rails would be necessary regardless. There will no doubt be some method, either manual or automated of filling the rail gaps with astroturf pitch after the pitch has been rolled back.
Obviously the large carevn being used to store the pitch has daylight lamps to keep the grass alive but the stand and flooring above it need support, so there are two large pillars and a two rows of smaller pillars behind them for that job. The pitch splits into three parts to accomodate that.
I must say at the outset, I wasn't keen on a system which splits the primary playing surface up and I felt it would lead to injuries if a player slides or gets their studs caught on a seam. But it seems a huge amount of engineering and testing has (as it should) been conducted and having seen some videos of a trial in action the majority of my fears have been allayed.
robertgoulet
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Basketball is not ideal for a stadium of that size. The NCAA Final 4 is played in football stadiums, it has to be a huge event to make it worthwhile. I can't imagine that few regular season NBA games would sell out the stadium.
