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Match Ratings Spurs vs Everton: player ratings

Motm

  • Lloris

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Aurier

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Sanchez

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Vertonghen

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Davies

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dier

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Dembele

    Votes: 47 14.7%
  • Alli

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Eriksen

    Votes: 4 1.3%
  • Son

    Votes: 259 80.9%
  • Kane

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Wanyama

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Lamela

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Can't decide

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    320

Coyboy

The Double of 1961 is still The Double
Dec 3, 2004
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Evra certainly had problems with him, but are you disputing that Lennon's lack of size or strength hindered him?

No I was just being slightly flippant. I think he’s quite strong for his size.
 

mpickard2087

Patient Zero
Jun 13, 2008
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What a player should do if he’s trying to shoot is shoot on target, no? 98/100 those two skew their shots it doesn’t end in a goal.

Credit to Son and Kane’s anticipation and timing to turn those skewed shots into goals, huge credit to Son for the drag and turn that got him there, the ball to Aurier by Eriksen and Aurier for getting himself there I guess, but I’m struggling hard to say hurrah for fucking up a shot.

Don’t you go soft on me MP, there’s enough lovestruck puppies on here.

I just think it's a good example that you don't have to do extraordinary, perfect things to score a goal and can often pick up 'easy' ones, but a lot of players, across football, just aren't switched on enough and don't have that killer instinct. We worked an opening, went hard and low across goal, and had determined runners getting across their men for the tap in. Obviously in an ideal world our players hit the back of the net directly every single time, but team mates making those runs time and again can turn not so perfect shots/crosses into perfect outcomes. A few too many games we have too many players who get drawn deeper playing tippy tappy in front of the packed defence and then aren't getting into the box and making runs across their markers (obviously it's harder against packed defences, but my point still stands).
 

BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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Very please with that. Wasn’t Everton’s best but it shouldn’t take away from our performance which, barring a spell after our opener, was full or purpose and invention from the first minute. We pressed well, our runs off the ball were great when in possession and we made brave decisions on and off the hall throughout.

Lloris didn’t have a shot to save, some questionable distribution I think.

Aurier was a great outlet but his final ball was poor. Did the right thing for our opener though and nice involvement in the last goal. Constant energy and fight off the ball too.

Sanchez was fine but I get unnerved by one habit of his, he doesn’t play to the whistle on offsides and as such gives opposition attackers a head start every time. If I can see this, so will opposition managers and eventually it will cost us.

Vertonghen was fine, usual cool indomitable self.

Davies excellent, linked very well with our attack, strong in the tackle, skill and clever passing, very good performance.

Dier didn’t produce his best, it will always be hard for him to impress as a midfielder in a game where were have all of the ball because his main strength is ball winning, but his passing and awareness wasn’t great either. Lovely drilled ball for our third though.

Dembele was very good, this was like last season’s Dembele, and his taking the ball, driving forward and actually passing with incision gave the front four more space and time to do their thing.

Eriksen was excellent, popping up everywhere, knitting play, making sure our attacks were varied. In midfield when necessary, in attack when necessary. Lovely pass for our first goal, great finish for our fourth, Rolls Royce performances.

Dele wasn’t at it with his finishing but everything else was great. Fighting off the ball, driving forward on it, always looking for the best route to their goal, good decision and a lovely backheel to set up Eriksen. Like watching Gerrard.

Son was quiet first half bar the goal, but second half he was amazing, really worked hard, made himself unpredictable, constantly in good positions and what a turn to get away from Kenny to set up Kane. Exactly what you need from your pacey wideman.

Kane wasn’t near his best but he still fought constantly, played some great passes and showed a great all round performance, getting the bit of luck on both goals that strikers get when they constantly put themselves in dangrenous places. Basically, 80% Kane is still the world’s best striker.

Wanyama got more necessary minutes and put himself about well.

Sissoko was fine, some good runs and link up play but kept fluffing his lines at crunch time.

Lamela came on.

All in all I went home very satisfied, we played some lovely exciting football and could have scored another four, such was our dominance.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Oct 19, 2004
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For Dembele it's Everton are poor and for Eriksen he was outstanding. Surely Everton is poor for both?

Eriksen was superb controlling our attack, but you really under estimate what Dembele did. He was picking the ball up all the time and was always there to press. He was taking players on and moving the ball further up the pitch like he should do. He also won some very good challenges to help protect defence.

Also can't believe you say Son skews his shots 98/100 times. Son has 12 goals, he more definitely has not had 1200 shots this season. I'm sure Kane skews more shots than Son.

You misunderstood and misconstrued both. The point is, Eriksen did what Dembele did and then some, and he’s been doing it constantly (with the odd blip). I said Dembele was good. What you should be taking issue with is people that are lauding that performance from Dembele but who are failing to laud Eriksen’s.

I didn’t say Son misses 98/100, I said 98/100 those skewed shots by Son and Aurier don’t end up as goals.
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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I just think it's a good example that you don't have to do extraordinary, perfect things to score a goal and can often pick up 'easy' ones, but a lot of players, across football, just aren't switched on enough and don't have that killer instinct. We worked an opening, went hard and low across goal, and had determined runners getting across their men for the tap in. Obviously in an ideal world our players hit the back of the net directly every single time, but team mates making those runs time and again can turn not so perfect shots/crosses into perfect outcomes. A few too many games we have too many players who get drawn deeper playing tippy tappy in front of the packed defence and then aren't getting into the box and making runs across their markers (obviously it's harder against packed defences, but my point still stands).
You’re right MP. It’s about weighting the percentages in your favour. Whether they were shots, crosses or passes is irrelevant, they’re driven balls that the defence has milliseconds to react to. The resultant being that the percentages are weighted in the attackers favour to pick up the loose ball when following in if done often enough.

It doesn’t have to be a perfect shot or a perfect cross, it just has to be driven into the right area often enough.

I find it strange that “making your own luck” can be defended when other teams, who attack relentlessly, do it, but when we do it it is criticised because the shot or cross is deemed to be not perfect. Footballers are taught from a very young age to make sure they do this, the law of averages takes care of the rest.
 

Bus-Conductor

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I just think it's a good example that you don't have to do extraordinary, perfect things to score a goal and can often pick up 'easy' ones, but a lot of players, across football, just aren't switched on enough and don't have that killer instinct. We worked an opening, went hard and low across goal, and had determined runners getting across their men for the tap in. Obviously in an ideal world our players hit the back of the net directly every single time, but team mates making those runs time and again can turn not so perfect shots/crosses into perfect outcomes. A few too many games we have too many players who get drawn deeper playing tippy tappy in front of the packed defence and then aren't getting into the box and making runs across their markers (obviously it's harder against packed defences, but my point still stands).

I don’t expect players to shoot with 100% accuracy, but I’m struggling to call a skewed shot a deliberate act. Like I said, I can credit other facets of those goals, like what led to the shots, and what went after, but it’s pure luck on the part of Aurier and Son (doubly so in Son's case because Kane was also probably offside) that someone else anticipated cleverly and gambled and was rewarded.

You can rightly apply the “made our luck” cliche, but there was still an element of luck with both our first goals.
 

Bus-Conductor

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@Bus-Conductor Like you, I rate Trippier perhaps more than most on this site but it's curious that Aurier's contributions are always tainted somehow. I thought he proved a tremendous outlet on the right flank and is much more direct than Trippier which contributed to the crucial opening goal.

It's the intangible element too of how the opposition combats him and definitely occupies space in more advanced positions which is afforded to him because of the play of Son & Alli down the left.

He's by no means perfect but i'd be happier with him holding down the position in the lion's share of games from hereon rather than the game by game rotation we've seen previously.

It’s not so curious when in Trippier we have probably the best RB in the opposition half and in Aurier a player who continually gets in good positions and wasted them - when you add to that, he’s not been defensively faultless either - imagine if Trippier had got caught out like Aurier did first half when they got behind him (and we weren’t even up the pitch at the time) how much shit he’d be getting if he wasted all those great situations too?

I find it bizarre that Poch selected Trippier to play away against ManC and Sane In a back 4 for example - it works both ways.

I think both players have flaws but I’m not really sure why Aurier deserves a non rotational run more than Trippier?

Trippier’s never had worse games than some of Aurier’s and his attacking end product is quantifiable better.

Personally I think there’s times and places for both to play, tactically speaking.
 

coys200

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Actually think need for a kane back up is now almost redundant. Will we really find anyone better than Son? What we actually need is a back up for Son when he is kane back up.
 

mpickard2087

Patient Zero
Jun 13, 2008
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I don’t expect players to shoot with 100% accuracy, but I’m struggling to call a skewed shot a deliberate act. Like I said, I can credit other facets of those goals, like what led to the shots, and what went after, but it’s pure luck on the part of Aurier and Son (doubly so in Son's case because Kane was also probably offside) that someone else anticipated cleverly and gambled and was rewarded.

You can rightly apply the “made our luck” cliche, but there was still an element of luck with both our first goals.

Well, yes, as in you never know exactly in any stage of play where the ball is going to fall, but instead of labelling it as luck I'd look at it and say its playing the percentages. The player hits it across goal, increasing the opportunities of something happening, whether they get the actual shot right or not, and more importantly the second man is making that run and turning a bad shot into a goal. That's teamwork, and doing the right things and getting your rewards. Too many times, for all football teams, we see lazy players who don't make the runs and miss out on an easy goal.
 
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tiger666

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Jan 4, 2005
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If that was Trippier, he'd be credited with hitting his cross hard and low to make it harder for the defence to deal with.
 

Hengy1

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Aurier performance yesterday was outstanding.

Ran the whole rightside with ease. Got a excellent assist with a driven cross goal cross making it incredibly easy for Son to tap in.

Also his contribution to the fourth hasn’t really been credited enough. Started the move then powered up the line and manged somehow not only reach Kane’s over hit pass but on the stretch calmly get it into Son > astonishing.

Haven’t seen a display like that for a right back since walker first half of last season.

Probably a mom performance but for Dembele would’ve got it.

Aurier (y)
 

thinktank

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Sep 28, 2004
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In both situations, Aurier and Son had got behind the defence on their flanks, and they quite clearly saw they had runners attacking the six yard box with a defence that was out of position. Both players fired their passes/shots into a threatening area. Think they assessed the chances of a goal outcome at higher than 2%. Good decisions as it happened.
Really surprised this has to be explained tbh.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Well, yes, as in you never know exactly in any stage of play where the ball is going to fall, but instead of labelling it as luck I'd look at it and say its playing the percentages. The player hits it across goal, increasing the opportunities of something happening, whether they get the actual shot right or not, and more importantly the second man is making that run and turning a bad shot into a goal. That's teamwork, and doing the right things and getting your rewards. Too many times, for all football teams, we see lazy players who don't make the runs and miss out on an easy goal.

Well no, you often do know exactly where the ball will fall because you deliberately put/pass/shoot it somewhere, but when you skew a shot accidentally that is not a skill to be praised.

As I keep repeating, the build up, the positioning, the anticipation of the scorers etc - all lovely jubbly - the shots were just skewed shots, so lets not call them or pretend they are something else.
 

Bus-Conductor

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In both situations, Aurier and Son had got behind the defence on their flanks, and they quite clearly saw they had runners attacking the six yard box with a defence that was out of position. Both players fired their passes/shots into a threatening area. Think they assessed the chances of a goal outcome at higher than 2%. Good decisions as it happened.

Both players shot badly. Neither player passed.

Really surprised this has to be explained tbh.

I am not surprised that some people have failed to grasp this most basic of concepts.
 
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Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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Firing the ball into the channel so that it goes in at the far post if nobody touches it but will hopefully be prodded in by an attacker is one of the most common things a player does when on the edge of the box, isn't it? For me that was what both Aurier and Son were trying to do. Whether they'd succeeded so the ball would've gone in without the striker prodding home is another matter, fortunately we didn't have to find out.
 

BringBack_leGin

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fwiw Aurier's looked a drilled cross, not a shot, to me, and Son's was on target anyway (might have been saved, but it was on target) regardless of whether or not Kane turned it in.
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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Aurier performance yesterday was outstanding.

Ran the whole rightside with ease. Got a excellent assist with a driven cross goal cross making it incredibly easy for Son to tap in.

Also his contribution to the fourth hasn’t really been credited enough. Started the move then powered up the line and manged somehow not only reach Kane’s over hit pass but on the stretch calmly get it into Son > astonishing.

Haven’t seen a display like that for a right back since walker first half of last season.

Probably a mom performance but for Dembele would’ve got it.

Aurier (y)
Aurier, Dembele and Son were fantastic yesterday.
 
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