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Luka Van der Bale

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Real shame we’ve drawn Chelsea so early in the FAYC this year. Was looking forward to this team getting a good run at the latter stages this year.

Hopefully we give them a good game.
 

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I'd rather play them now than our usual semi final encounter. We stand more chance of getting something from one game than we do over two legs.
 

coys200

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I'd rather play them now than our usual semi final encounter. We stand more chance of getting something from one game than we do over two legs.
That’s a very good point. Over 1 game especially at home we have a chance. We are much physically stronger this year. Players line Griffiths Paris Maghoma TOB Skipp can physically match them. Last year was very much men against boys.
 

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Nedum Onuoha got a good point here ;)

https://talksport.com/football/phil...nchester-city-youngster-told-he-may-have-move

Speaking to The Sun, he said: "Foden could be Spurs' next star and then could come back to City - that would be great for him.

"He is certainly good enough to play but, when you have brought in a mega money player, you don't buy him not to play him.

"It doesn't mean Foden's failed if he moves."

Onuoha, who played 116 times for City and is now at Queens Park Rangers, added: "Thinking about maybe having a 10-to-15-year career as such, you can't really waste it. You can't spend a year not playing if you're fit.

"In the end he will get what he deserves, whether that's at City or somewhere else."

1. Foden will need to move
2. Citeh would never sell to a PL rival....they'd pay the guy to play for a team like Dortmund before selling to a local rival....which they can do because they are owned by a rights abusing petro dictators family!
 

coys200

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What do you guys think Keenan Bennett’s chances are. 19 in March getting to that age where will have to start making impression. If sessegnon comes in hard to see pathway.
 

Spurzinho

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What do you guys think Keenan Bennett’s chances are. 19 in March getting to that age where will have to start making impression. If sessegnon comes in hard to see pathway.

He hasn't developed as quickly or fully as was hoped. He's still very much a young lad in mind and body. As a lot of prospects do he looked electric as an U15/16 with pace and skill and more than enough muscle to bully defences (although less so against big strong international defenders). I wouldn't say that he hasn't progressed at all, he has, just not to a point where you'd look at him and see him as a viable first team option in the next two or three years.

This period is the real crucial time because by the time you get to, say, Conor Ogilvie's age of 21 you're no longer being looked at as a developing prospect, more a depreciating asset that will need to get out on loan in order to generate any fee whatsoever. Keenan has reasonable but not express pace, decent but not fantastic feet, all of that would be allowable to an extent if he was razor sharp in his mind but he's not. That lack of nous will hold him back.
 

WindyCOYS

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He hasn't developed as quickly or fully as was hoped. He's still very much a young lad in mind and body. As a lot of prospects do he looked electric as an U15/16 with pace and skill and more than enough muscle to bully defences (although less so against big strong international defenders). I wouldn't say that he hasn't progressed at all, he has, just not to a point where you'd look at him and see him as a viable first team option in the next two or three years.

This period is the real crucial time because by the time you get to, say, Conor Ogilvie's age of 21 you're no longer being looked at as a developing prospect, more a depreciating asset that will need to get out on loan in order to generate any fee whatsoever. Keenan has reasonable but not express pace, decent but not fantastic feet, all of that would be allowable to an extent if he was razor sharp in his mind but he's not. That lack of nous will hold him back.
I actually feel the opposite way - when I first saw Bennetts in the U18s I thought he was okay, but not as good as I was hoping. At the back end of last year and start of this I was really impressed with how he'd seemed to mature.
 
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Chris Wilder quoted as saying return of CCV was down to them not being able to offer him games as they have signed centre half Ryan Leonard. Their decision to end the loan
 

Spurzinho

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I actually feel the opposite way - when I first saw Bennetts in the U18s I thought he was okay, but not as good as I was hoping. At the back end of last year and start of this I was really impressed with how he'd seen to mature.

I was basing his quality period on the period when he was an U16. He hasn't been much cop, for me, since he went fulltime. It was a similar story with Luke Amos, imperious at schoolboy level but bang average as a scholar and pro.
 

allpaths

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He hasn't developed as quickly or fully as was hoped. He's still very much a young lad in mind and body. As a lot of prospects do he looked electric as an U15/16 with pace and skill and more than enough muscle to bully defences (although less so against big strong international defenders). I wouldn't say that he hasn't progressed at all, he has, just not to a point where you'd look at him and see him as a viable first team option in the next two or three years.

This period is the real crucial time because by the time you get to, say, Conor Ogilvie's age of 21 you're no longer being looked at as a developing prospect, more a depreciating asset that will need to get out on loan in order to generate any fee whatsoever. Keenan has reasonable but not express pace, decent but not fantastic feet, all of that would be allowable to an extent if he was razor sharp in his mind but he's not. That lack of nous will hold him back.
Really good perceptive post.

Bennetts has improved a lot from his first year at academy level, were it seemed he struggled for consistency and with injury. These past 12 months he's been in very good form, but that doesnt mean he is has actually improved as much as we think.

I think he only has one quality that really lets him standout and make it at a high level. The combination of his power and strength, which is a very tasty mix. This allows him to be devastating at times going forward, but you can tell by his occasional sloppiness with his passing while in basic possession were there are men behind the ball or his lackadaisical tracking, that mentally he isnt completely committed yet.

To me Bennetts development comes down to whether he is willing to accept that he could be a world beater as a WB/FB type or an Andros Townsend level winger. Because as a fullback he'd be able to utilize his power and pace while attacking from deep with space in front of him were he's best at.

As for potentially signing sessegnon, I dont see it as a deterrent as I think Ryan should be mostly played in advanced positions.
 
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allpaths

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I was basing his quality period on the period when he was an U16. He hasn't been much cop, for me, since he went fulltime. It was a similar story with Luke Amos, imperious at schoolboy level but bang average as a scholar and pro.
If Bennetts was bang average our Academy would be completely stacked. He's a quality second tier prospect, (behind the likes of Onomah, Edwards, KWP, Skipp and BLF for example) sometimes these second tier guys develop unexpectedly and go onto big things like I would say Harry Kane did. While others like Oduwa fall into oblivion.

Amos I agree with, he's gone backwards and I think it really telled whenever we got outclassed by Chelsea. That him, Marsh and Pritchard couldnt get close to the Chelsea lads physically and mentally.
 

coys200

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Cheers interesting thoughts on Bennetts. I’ve only really seen him this season and been quite impressed. He does look to have the physical attributes. Surprised at pace comment as he looks pretty fast. Anyways I guess this will be a crucial time for him.
 

coys200

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Just thinking pre season tour will be interesting. Could have as many as 12-15 at World Cup. Have there been any rumours of a destination, I guess will be states again. But should be a whole load of kids going.
 

WiganSpur

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Just thinking pre season tour will be interesting. Could have as many as 12-15 at World Cup. Have there been any rumours of a destination, I guess will be states again. But should be a whole load of kids going.
Poch will play the kids in the friendlies alright, but most likely out of position. They'll then be cast aside once the first team are back and if signings are made.
 

Dharmabum

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1. Foden will need to move
2. Citeh would never sell to a PL rival....they'd pay the guy to play for a team like Dortmund before selling to a local rival....which they can do because they are owned by a rights abusing petro dictators family!

Yes, you're most probably right about them not wanting to sell Foden to Spurs or any other EPL rival. Just like what happened to Jadon Sancho.
 
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Dharmabum

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Chris Wilder quoted as saying return of CCV was down to them not being able to offer him games as they have signed centre half Ryan Leonard. Their decision to end the loan

Thing is, as a loaned out player one may feel a bit awkward as most clubs would normally prefer to develop players who are staying rather than those they know will be leaving after 1 season. To what degree that may affect the concerning player I cannot say but I am pretty sure it can impact a player's way of settling in a some clubs (not all of them).
 

coys200

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You have to wonder if a loan player will ever be as committed especially in a promotion scrap. This season may be some of Sheffield United players only chance in their career to get to PL. surely even if subconsciously they will give 10% more than a player that knows he can just walk straight back in to a PL club.
 

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You have to wonder if a loan player will ever be as committed especially in a promotion scrap. This season may be some of Sheffield United players only chance in their career to get to PL. surely even if subconsciously they will give 10% more than a player that knows he can just walk straight back in to a PL club.

Don't think we'd keep him if he displayed that attitude
 
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