General/Non-Spurs Transfers

'O Zio · Jan 17, 2018

danielneeds said:
I think Walcott does have talent. Apart from his pace, he’s always been a good finisher, finding bottom corners with nice crisp strikes. The problem is he was never an elite player, at a time when Arsenal had plenty of them. And Wenger never really knew what to do with him. If he’d have gone to a more middling club earlier and played off a big, strong centre forward, he’d probably have been a very regular goal scorer over the years.

Even so, like you say, he's never looked anything like an "elite" player whereas Sterling has always had the potential to reach that level even though he went through a poor run of form, therefore I don't agree that you can look at what Pep has done with Sterling and assume that he could've done the same with Walcott. Despite both of them probably being over-hyped (as is the fate of most talented young English players) I think Sterling's hype was vastly more justified than the hype around Walcott ever was.

Could Walcott have gone on to better things? Probably. But Pep or no Pep, he never looked like having the potential to reach the same levels as Sterling has/could.

Rocksuperstar · Jan 17, 2018

So has Walnut realised he's a winger yet, not a striker?

If he has that could be a great signing, tearing up the line on to through balls or breaking from deep, if not he's just going to keep doing what he did at the Woolwich, relying on the odd toe-poke over the line every five or six games and they've already got Rooney for that :whistle:

ajspurs · Jan 17, 2018

I swear I heard someone say Walcott has been at Arsenal for 12 years, that can't be true?!

tiger666 · Jan 17, 2018

ajspurs said:
I swear I heard someone say Walcott has been at Arsenal for 12 years, that can't be true?!

Yeah it's true.

cider spurs · Jan 17, 2018

ajspurs said:
I swear I heard someone say Walcott has been at Arsenal for 12 years, that can't be true?!

£5 million from Southampton 2006

Chris Finch · Jan 17, 2018

cider spurs said:
£5 million from Southampton 2006

£12m

Cornpattbuck · Jan 17, 2018

cider spurs said:
£5 million from Southampton 2006

Rising to £12.5m with club and international appearances...

TheChosenOne · Jan 17, 2018

tiger666 said:
Yeah it's true.

Since 20th Jan 2006

Total apps incl subs 252

Total goals 108

ajspurs · Jan 17, 2018

tiger666 said:
Yeah it's true.

cider spurs said:
£5 million from Southampton 2006

Jesus I can't believe he's been there for that long and done so little too.

Surely that says something about his character, to be a player of his ability but to never really be an integral player in that team in his time yet he was still there for 12 years. Should have moved a long long time ago.

cider spurs · Jan 17, 2018

cider spurs said:
£5 million from Southampton 2006

Chris Finch said:
£12m

Cornpattbuck said:
Rising to £12.5m with club and international appearances...

Alright, alright. I initially missed off the initial.

You win. :cry:

tiger666 · Jan 17, 2018

ajspurs said:
Jesus I can't believe he's been there for that long and done so little too.

Surely that says something about his character, to be a player of his ability but to never really be an integral player in that team in his time yet he was still there for 12 years. Should have moved a long long time ago.

But he's had a stellar career for club and country. Stellar.

cider spurs · Jan 17, 2018

tiger666 said:
But he's had a stellar career for club and country. Stellar.

I'd suggest more Carling as opposed to Stella. :whistle:

mill · Jan 17, 2018

cider spurs said:
I'd suggest more Carling as opposed to Stella.

Skol

ljinko888 · Jan 17, 2018

It's possible Walcott has hit his potential. His potential being an above average Premier League forward.

100 goals for Arsenal is a good record. Yes it's over a long period of time but you still have to show the quality to last that long.

Just because Walcott started off very young doesn't mean his ceiling was massive. That is the mistake a lot of people make - that if you're given a chance so early then you must be super special. Reality probably was Walcott's searing pace and athleticism gave him an asset to be fast-tracked. And as he got older people analysed and knew all about him and the exuberance of youth wilted away. He regressed to a mean.

Marty · Jan 17, 2018

cider spurs said:
I'd suggest more Carling as opposed to Stella.

Both are terrible but Carling slightly more so. So, you're bang on.

Ionman34 · Jan 17, 2018

mill said:
Skol

Hertsman.

Those from the Hertfordshire area who’ve drunk it will know...

beats1 · Jan 18, 2018

mpickard2087 said:
Walcott is a very 'straight lines' player. I don't think Poch likes or does well with those sorts of attacking players. Guardiola though would have given him tactical direction and better understanding of his role.

Thats how I would describe Sissoko

Personally I would have rather have Walcott for the right wing at £20m than Sissoko on the right wing for £30m

Bus-Conductor · Jan 18, 2018

Walcott - 108 goals/assists in 270 league games isn't terrible - 0.4 per game

Lennon 80 in 342 - 0.23

Sissoko - 32 in 165 - 0.19

Defoe - 193 in 483 - 0.39 per game

He's meh, but I've paid to watch much worse.

Sweech · Jan 18, 2018

eddiev14 said:
I’m concerned that all of our top 4 rivals are looking like they are getting even stronger personnel-wise before a busy run in and - say what you like - when you make a top signing it gives everyone a lift.

Liverpool: van Dijk
Arsenal: Aubameyang
United: Sánchez

Those are all top signings, particularly in the short term.

It’s really frustrating. I still think we can challenge for 3rd or 4th place but those players will give all of those clubs a big lift, and we could do without that as we have some catching up to do.

Hope i’m wrong!

Kind of paints an inaccurate picture.

A lot of the teams adding are also suffering major subtractions. Liverpool losing Coutinho, Arsenal losing Sanchez etc.

Plus as others have already mentioned we go through this literally every summer window where everyone overrates the business done by rivals and without a bedding in period I really don't see all these moves resulting in any immediate fireworks.

spursfan77 · Jan 18, 2018

With Walcott I've always said all you need to do is show him on the outside as a defender and he will dribble the ball out of play for a goal kick.

Makes you wonder why Wenger never tried him as an inverted winger on the left. Lack of technical ability and Wenger being Wenger I suspect.

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