Malcom

Sandro30 · Jan 19, 2018

Dan Kilpatrick‏ @Dan_KP 12 minutes ago
#thfc Definite interest in Malcom, would potentially be one for the summer.

Darren Lewis‏@MirrorDarren 7 minutes ago
Spurs are in the early stages of talks over a deal for Malcom. He would, in theory be one for the summer if they can agree a deal with Bordeaux now. More @MirrorFootball

SpartanSpur · Jan 19, 2018

I rate Pulisic highly but some of you in here fawn over him like a teenage girl and One Direction!

Is it the American thing? I'd probably take him over Malcom too but I'm not going to be down on this potential signing just because it's not Pulisic. I think both need to be coached and improved further. He was mentioned once on here briefly months ago and could be well out of our range for all we know, or even be keen to stay at Dortmund for now a la Kane with us...

The_Dude · Jan 19, 2018

tiger666 said:
He's an inside forward, we haven't played with wingers for years nor should we. Our wing backs provide the width.

I'm not talking about an Aaron Lennon type winger who stays out wide and will always look to cross when he's got the ball. I mean more like a second Son type player cos when he's not playing we really lack pace

Blackrat1299 · Jan 19, 2018

Luka Van der Bale said:
A lot of people judging a 20-year-old as a finished product here. Come on lads, we’re better than this.

Not really, kicking a ball is a prerequisite to play football, at 20 I would expect him to be able to do that. Body mass will get better.

rossdapep · Jan 19, 2018

Cravenspurs said:
I don't hold the purse strings, but I pay 60m plus wages for a product that is refined and only going to get better over a 40m WIP. The gulf in where they are now if huge IMO and that warrants the increase. In short Pulisic comes in and seriously challenges the front 3. Malcom comes in and challenges Lamela for the backup minutes. Plus you have to factor in the marketing pull.

I am not writing the kid off from one video either. I have watched a handful of Bordeaux games and other than a moment of brilliance with this cannon, I don't see much more than what GKN had in his locker. He is not as fast, he is completely left footed, and his work ethic leaves a lot to be desired. I hope he proves me wrong, but he is not a finished product and will take a lot of coaching to become a starter in our attack.

And for a one footed dribbler he can't even compare to ME. Either way, I think 40m can go elsewhere.

.....I watched him a few times for Corinthians and I can say that whilst he clearly has some way to go this kid could be huge for us. He could really become a star for us. And as for the comparisons with GKN, you're way off, Malcom clearly looks in control of what he is doing with the ball whereas GKN looks very unsure and is the very definition of raw.

Arjen Robben (who I think he shares similarities with) used to make bad decisions, dribble too much and was/is pre-dominantly left footed - I really don't think these are concerns, especially if he excels at them. I remember people used to say that about Robben all the time, still didn't prevent him from producing thunderbolts from 20+yards despite defenders knowing what he would do.

Unfortunately £40m does not get you the finished product nowadays. Even Pulisic is not the finished article and would need further coaching.

Lighty64 · Jan 19, 2018

Blue said:
I'm not completely convinced myself but hes youtube-montages definitely looks better than N'koudou's and Nije's . He's trickery and technique seems a littler sharper and he's able to do longshots (and score goals). Think poch can turn him good.

not having a go at you, but just about anyone comparing the 3.

both N'Jie and N'Koudou like Malcom played in the French league, the big difference is neither are Brazilian.

Brazilian players in my mind will always have that little bit extra with the exception of Gilberto :ROFLMAO:

rossdapep · Jan 19, 2018

St José Dominguez said:
If you can't see much more in his game than GKN then I'm really doubting you've seen much of him. He's a completely different player to GKN.
I love Pulisic but he's not the finished article either, he needs developing too. Think you're massively overestimating him if you think he's taking a starting spot off Eriksen, Dele or Son straight away.
Personally I think both of them will become stars if coached by Poch. But who's to say Dortmund want to sell, and if they did surely his price tag in current market would be 80-100m.

Exactly!

Snuzzy · Jan 19, 2018

JB_Spurs said:
Not sure I understand how Pulisic is any less a work in progress than Malcom either tbh

Because he's further on in his development.

I also think he has a higher ceiling, based on a)a very very cursory look at the two players (weak assessment), and b)his much much better weaker foot

However, Dortmund surely know they have a top talent and he's only 19. And regardless of Pulisic, Malcom might be an excellent player who can make a difference. So we shouldn't let preferring a super-expensive player stop us pulling off a purchase if it makes sense in it's own terms.

Snuzzy · Jan 19, 2018

Sandro30 said:
Dan Kilpatrick‏ @Dan_KP 12 minutes ago
#thfc Definite interest in Malcom, would potentially be one for the summer.

Darren Lewis‏@MirrorDarren 7 minutes ago
Spurs are in the early stages of talks over a deal for Malcom. He would, in theory be one for the summer if they can agree a deal with Bordeaux now. More @MirrorFootball

Lucas for now on loan, Malcom for later on permanent?

one pacey Brazilian with a single nerd-Brit name from the French league can smoothly replace another

SpartanSpur · Jan 19, 2018

St José Dominguez said:
Surely someone who drops off and beats a couple of players in tight spaces before threading a pass is exactly what we need against park the bus teams. A player playing off the last man against a team camped is not going to help things whatsoever. We've got them in Kane, Dele and Son already.

Yeah I agree with this. That burst past a player followed by a cute reverse through ball is the kind Harry Kane would thrive on (see Lamela assist vs Leicester). On top of that he has the 25 yard screamer in his back pocket too. Seems to dribble fast but with decent vision, which suits us and means he would be deadly in transition.

I can very much see why we have gone for him.

Metalhead · Jan 19, 2018

Sandro30 said:
Dan Kilpatrick‏ @Dan_KP 12 minutes ago
#thfc Definite interest in Malcom, would potentially be one for the summer.

Darren Lewis‏@MirrorDarren 7 minutes ago
Spurs are in the early stages of talks over a deal for Malcom. He would, in theory be one for the summer if they can agree a deal with Bordeaux now. More @MirrorFootball

Arsenalmania meltdown?

Johnny J · Jan 19, 2018

AFAIK Messi tends to use his right only when he has to, and it hasn't really hurt him. The number of players who can use both well, let alone really well, is low.

The_Dude · Jan 19, 2018

St José Dominguez said:
Surely someone who drops off and beats a couple of players in tight spaces before threading a pass is exactly what we need against park the bus teams. A player playing off the last man against a team camped is not going to help things whatsoever. We've got them in Kane, Dele and Son already.

I'm not sure Kane or Dele particularly play off the last man, neither really has the pace required. I see Malcom being most similar to Lamela as a player and he's never really looked at his best in congested matches. Obviously hopefully I'm wrong if we sign him

SpartanSpur · Jan 19, 2018

rossdapep said:
Arjen Robben (who I think he shares similarities with) used to make bad decisions, dribble too much and was/is pre-dominantly left footed - I really don't think these are concerns, especially if he excels at them. I remember people used to say that about Robben all the time, still didn't prevent him from producing thunderbolts from 20+yards despite defenders knowing what he would do.

Mahrez is the premier league example. Even if you know they are cutting in sometimes it's not enough.

tiger666 · Jan 19, 2018

Metalhead said:
Arsenalmania meltdown?

They're not bothered.

SpartanSpur · Jan 19, 2018

tiger666 said:
They're not bothered.

Too busy putting Aubameyang into their FIFA teams and pretending everything is ok.

dtxspurs · Jan 19, 2018

To the people discussing that they want a winger with pace, I think there's a different aspect of it. Moving at pace with the ball. N'koudou is very fast but very slow on the ball. Malcom is not as fast but is much quicker on the ball.

St José Dominguez · Jan 19, 2018

The_Dude said:
I'm not sure Kane or Dele particularly play off the last man, neither really has the pace required. I see Malcom being most similar to Lamela as a player and he's never really looked at his best in congested matches. Obviously hopefully I'm wrong if we sign him

Was talking about against bus parkers, their last man is about 15 yards from goal so electric pace is meaningless. For me against bus parkers the way through them is to have players with ability to drop shoulder, a burst of pace to beat a player or two and a threaded pass to runners (Kane, Dele, Son). This is literally what Malcom does.

LexingtonSpurs · Jan 19, 2018

In a perfect world, I would probably prefer Pulisic also - but we don't live in a perfect world. Pulisic is not for sale now, and if Dortmund do offer him this summer - then we are stuck competing financially with the biggest clubs - a competition we usually fall short in.

If we can get Malcom done now, to come in the summer. That is good business.

Hengy1 · Jan 19, 2018

Honestly can’t see anything for fans to be negative about here.

A young good player with huge potential that is different to what we already have.

These are the type we should be all over like Dortmund do

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