fortworthspur
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If Levy pays 50 million for a 17 year old championship player my head will explode. I just dont see it.
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Fidget
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You are so right wtf is happening?
SambaSpurs
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I think you're looking at it from the selling club/development point of view and the guys you're debating with are looking at it from the player's.
To answer your question, the club shouldn't have control because a year ago Sessegnon held all the cards. Fulham would have bitten his hand off for a 30m release clause with him signing a professional contract vs losing him for potential tribunal.
Obviously we don't know the ins and the outs of anything but if his preferred choice for his development was 1.Spurs 2.Arsenal 3.Liverpool 4.United and his 1&2 won't go for a price Fulham are asking but his 3&4 will, then from the PLAYERS point of view it's negligent not to have had a release clause put in his contract. Even if Arsenal are his number 1 and were being priced out - from the players point of view it is negligent.
It's fair play to Fulham really, crack on and do what's best for the club, but sessegnon should have done the same for himself.
TEESSIDE1
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Sessegnon isn’t just a left back though is he? Davies is a left back whereas Sessegnon can play left back, left wing back and wide left forward in a 433. He’s quick, can dribble, pass, shoot, creates and scores goals. These attributes cost money. Can Davies do any of this? No. Rose? yes but with limitations. Do we want a hefty fee for him? Yes. Is £50m excessive for Sessegnon? Yes if it’s up front but no if it’s a package deal. The kid has bundles of potential and that costs big money in the current market. We can’t say it’s not realistic of Fulham to ask this much when we’ve forked out circa £40m on a centre back many hadn’t heard of. Sanchez has been an excellent signing and is justifying his price tag. I’d expect Sessegnon to do the same and develop into a key player for us.
fletch82
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People keep saying levy isn' backing poch by not paying ridiculous prices but!
Has anybody ever stopped to consider that it is probably more of a case of
Poch says to levy I like the look of this kid we should get him if we can levy then contacts the club makes offer of say 20 they say no we want 50 levy goes back to poch and says it' 50 or no deal poch says no it' to much of a dent in our player budget get Dave instead and we can try to make him better and it goes on from there
We are not cashchester citeh there has to be some limits to our spending and poch will be very aware of this.
Has anybody ever stopped to consider that it is probably more of a case of
Poch says to levy I like the look of this kid we should get him if we can levy then contacts the club makes offer of say 20 they say no we want 50 levy goes back to poch and says it' 50 or no deal poch says no it' to much of a dent in our player budget get Dave instead and we can try to make him better and it goes on from there
We are not cashchester citeh there has to be some limits to our spending and poch will be very aware of this.
Ghost Hardware
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I know the market has gone insane of late but I am shocked that there are some people justifying spending 50 mil on a 17 year old wing back who plays for Fulham.... People seem to think we have turned into Real Madrid over night. No doubt the kid has a lot of potential but at this point that's all it is.
spursfan77
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Exactly. We won’t be paying over £30 million for him.
He will come on lower wages too than lots of our more established players so we would be saving money there.
I still reckon we are in the driving seat for him. I just hope Chelsea or arsenal don’t come in for him else then we will have problems.
George94
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Don't understand why some people hold it against Fulham asking for such a high fee - wouldn't you want the same if it were us in their position? They know how ridiculous the market is, either somebody comes along and pays the £40m-£50m fee they're asking for, or they get to keep him for a few another season or so. He's one of their best players and he's only 17!
Think of this scenario. Sessengon stays with Fulham, they get promoted this season. Next season he has a fantastic first campaign in the Premier League and Fulham stay up. You still think they'll be asking for £40-£50m the following summer? With inflation of the market, and a year of Premier League experience under his belt, still at 18 or 19, you're looking at a far FAR higher price tag then that.
Think of this scenario. Sessengon stays with Fulham, they get promoted this season. Next season he has a fantastic first campaign in the Premier League and Fulham stay up. You still think they'll be asking for £40-£50m the following summer? With inflation of the market, and a year of Premier League experience under his belt, still at 18 or 19, you're looking at a far FAR higher price tag then that.
$hoguN
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Whilst I agree in general, you have to remember that PSG have just broke football completely with the insane purchases that have just occurred. Add to that we always complain we don’t sign world beater before they hit the big time, this could be one of those times. While 50 million is a ridiculous sum, if we structure it in the right way it could look like a great deal in years to come
Johnny J
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It's not all potential, though. He was join top scorer in the team that won the U19 Euros, and made team of the tournament. And he's been tearing it up in the Championship - a league that, though below the PL, is still extremely competitive. He's at exactly the stage we want him: played plenty of first teak football, showed that he can do it in a league that has plenty of rough and tumble; and young enough so that Poch can turn him into a world beater. If he played for Barca, everyone would covet him.
fatpiranha
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A year ago I posted that Sessegnon was a real talent and we should just offer them £25M and do the deal there and then. People laughed at me and said that was ridiculous money for a 16 year old. Fair enough I suppose but he has come on a good deal since then and we now have the same problem.
Is he now worth £50M? It's really the time to decide because after this he's either going to be out of our price range or a bullet dodged. Either way, realistically it is our last opportunity to sign him.
Is he now worth £50M? It's really the time to decide because after this he's either going to be out of our price range or a bullet dodged. Either way, realistically it is our last opportunity to sign him.
Johnny J
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Mourinho would, because he never sticks around long enough or bothers to develop young players properly.
Am sure there is a ‘sensible’ deal to be done here, Fulham can keep him until the end of the season and then depending where they are we can help them with a loan next season.
Fair play to Fulham for holding out for as much money as possible, I suppose we just have to hope that RS recognises we are the best place for him.
Fair play to Fulham for holding out for as much money as possible, I suppose we just have to hope that RS recognises we are the best place for him.
50 million for Fulham and then how much to his agents ? Another 10 million say ? and a nice signing on fee for the lad himself say 5 million ? all of sudden becomes 65 million plus wages and bonuses. Madness for a 17 year old.
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dave5150
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I guess if we got £50m for Rose, we would probably break even (guessing Sess would be on lower wages than Rose?)
Trading someone of undoubted Premier League quality but with some temperament issues and injury problems as of late for someone with a possible higher ceiling and more adaptable... I think I would go for Sess.
Trading someone of undoubted Premier League quality but with some temperament issues and injury problems as of late for someone with a possible higher ceiling and more adaptable... I think I would go for Sess.
Japhet
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IMO it depends a lot on what Sessegnon wants. He did right by Fulham in signing a contract that guaranteed they'd get good money for him when he could have refused a contract and forced their hand. It's time for Fulham to do right by him and let him go where he wants (hopefully us). They should let him decide and negotiate the best deal with that club. It may be that he wants to chase the money which would be a shame, but it would be unfair if Fulham made him go to a cash doped club just to line their pockets.
