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Spurzinho

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The goalkeeping situation is a bit odd. Austin, who's an overage player and an unknown Lo-Tutala. Where are De Bie, Freeman, the Oluwayemi brothers or U16s Kurylowicz & Cichowlas?
 

Hengy1

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The goalkeeping situation is a bit odd. Austin, who's an overage player and an unknown Lo-Tutala. Where are De Bie, Freeman, the Oluwayemi brothers or U16s Kurylowicz & Cichowlas?
Some will be with the U17s in the cup competition I think
 

Blake Griffin

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u18s 4-2 up at the moment. richards, patterson and griffiths x2.

let's not have another 4-4 this time please spurs.


edit: 5-2 now, patterson with his 2nd :)
 

TottenhamLegend

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Griffiths on fire lately. Hard to tell if it's one of those goal scoring streaks a lot of academy lads get at some point, or if this great half a season is a sign of great things to come.
 

Streetspur77

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What’s even more wrong is applying those standards to youth players so rigorously but not to his first team purchases quite so ruthlessly.

Even in his book he talks about several first team players he has to lecture about working harder, being distracted by their entourages, losing “fuckuss”, not grasping the philosophy properly etc

"You need to show quality, mental strength, physical condition and everything

KWP has shown all those things, has Sissoko?

What are you insinuating in that last bit? That poch plays inferior players and puts his own job on the line just so he doesn't have to play youth players?

I'm sorry but this thread has again turned into 'poch has some weird vendetta against youth players'

FWIW I'd argue sissoko has shown all of those things, obvs lacking in quality but all the others 100%
 

coys200

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Why is anyone taking notice of that twitter account in regard to griffiths and hinds. The guy has 100 followers and sounds about 14.
 

IGSpur

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Good to see Thorpe on the bench.
Thorpe's first appearance of the season. Hopefully he can settle in quickly.
Lo-Tutala is a new name for me?

The goalkeeping situation is a bit odd. Austin, who's an overage player and an unknown Lo-Tutala. Where are De Bie, Freeman, the Oluwayemi brothers or U16s Kurylowicz & Cichowlas?

Lo'Tutala is an u15 keeper, don't know how highly rated he is but like @Hengy1 said a lot are in Qatar, so that might have been the reason he has played. However it is still strange.

I know Kurylowicz is there. But I doubt Josh Oluwayemi, De Bie or Freeman (don't know why we're wasting his time) are there, which means they could have played today. Then there's Green who I think is going to be released but I assume they would have taken him.

If we were going to give bench time to a youngster I thought they would have gone for the younger Oluwayemi but he is quite small so it might be that Tutala is taller. Who is Chichowlas?

Looking at the team we played today it looks like all of our 01s have gone to the tournament, our u16s and I know John has gone so I imagine Lusala might go too
 

Bus-Conductor

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What are you insinuating in that last bit? That poch plays inferior players and puts his own job on the line just so he doesn't have to play youth players?

I'm sorry but this thread has again turned into 'poch has some weird vendetta against youth players'

FWIW I'd argue sissoko has shown all of those things, obvs lacking in quality but all the others 100%

No, I’m saying that Poch doesn’t apply his criteria equitably to all groups.

And for the record, not only is “quality” quite an important thing to be lacking, Sissoko also hides from the ball and points when we are under pressure, which also demonstrates a lack of “mental strength”.

And I could give you plenty of examples of senior players that repeatedly fall short on Poch’s self proclaimed criteria that play week after week.

I’m 2/3rds through his book, and a feature of it is how often he has to get hold of first team players and spend hours lecturing them about their application etc.

Yet we are constantly being told that development players must be almost “100%” perfect in all aspects before they can even be changed considered.
 

danielneeds

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Honestly, going by some of you on here every team at the top of the major leagues in world football must be doing it wrong, because nowhere does more than a couple of youth players every few years make it into the first team squad. It just doesn’t happen. Occasionally you get a special crop coming through, but it’s few and far between.

It’s different in exporting leagues like France, Holland, Portugal and Brazil, because the youth replenish the players sold off.

I understand that we’ve made some underwhelming signings recently, that seemed pointless, but it’s very difficult to assess the mental side of the game before you work with someone day to day. It’s still the mental side that will make the difference for a lot of talented players being useful or not, whether purchased or homegrown.
 

IGSpur

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That poch plays inferior players and puts his own job on the line just so he doesn't have to play youth players?

Buying players instead of giving academy players is definitely not putting your job on the line. It's the safe option which can always be defended, it's why all Premier League managers do it. Playing academy players and risking them is putting your job on the line. Buying average players isn't risking your job, you know they will perform to a 'good enough standard' and no one will criticise the the signing. They will just ask they be sold and sign another player. The academy players who may have been better won't get that chance and so Premier League managers will never be proved wrong or shown up for their decision not to take a chance on them. NO one will know if they ever have lost out on playing superior players, so the PL manager continues to take the safe route. Occasionally a Pogba happens where the player leaves the club early enough to reestablish themselves, and then it is a little embarrassing. There is no downside for the managers. Only potential downside is we could miss out on a World Class player but if you can't prove it there is no loss. Keep buying average players and all is well.

I don't think any Premier League manager knowingly plays inferior players to shoot themselves in the foot, they would just rather choose players that are good enough than risk an inexperienced player that will leave them open for criticism. I hope that makes sense, it may not, and puts to bed the belief that people believes that PL managers purposely play lesser players.
 

IGSpur

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I know @BC11 used to but does anyone know where to find the amount of goals scored by our u18s players
 
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