Ryan Sessegnon

tiger666 · Jan 20, 2018

piedpiper said:
I remember your post...and the austerity accountants were on like a flash....

Who says Fulham would have taken £25m last summer?

piedpiper · Jan 20, 2018

tiger666 said:
Who says Fulham would have taken £25m last summer?

It may have been May month. But to answer your question i think the Itk guys said we tried.. Not blaming the club. I just remembered the poster making that suggestion and being shot down...

As you said in an earlier post lets hope they dont get promoted... But im losing faith in this deal happening. Fulham rightfully so are being tough. We would do no different.

fortworthspur · Jan 20, 2018

fatpiranha said:
A year ago I posted that Sessegnon was a real talent and we should just offer them £25M and do the deal there and then. People laughed at me and said that was ridiculous money for a 16 year old. Fair enough I suppose but he has come on a good deal since then and we now have the same problem.

Is he now worth £50M? It's really the time to decide because after this he's either going to be out of our price range or a bullet dodged. Either way, realistically it is our last opportunity to sign him.

I thought we did offer 25 million for him last summer.

allpaths · Jan 20, 2018

Dillspur said:
I'm not sure they would have gotten screwed over, say they accepted 10-15m, that would have been enough to run their academy for the next 5 years (just guessing) and would have more than covered the time and money they had invested into him.

I find this whole idea that Fulham should be happy with 10-15m or whatever we are willing to pay extremely arrogant, disrespectful and unbecoming.

Sounds like something a united supporter who thinks it's just inevitable that Harry Kane and Poch are nailed on to move to some mega rich uber club and we should be happy because that is just a fact of our reality, would say.

Dillspur · Jan 20, 2018

allpaths said:
I find this whole idea that Fulham should be happy with 10-15m or whatever we are willing to pay extremely arrogant, disrespectful and unbecoming.

Sounds like something a united supporter who thinks it's just inevitable that Harry Kane and Poch are nailed on to move to some mega rich uber club and we should be happy because that is just a fact of our reality, would say.

I'm not saying they should be happy, I just disagree that they would have been screwed over had they accepted what we offered last year

fortworthspur · Jan 20, 2018

fortworthspur said:
I thought we did offer 25 million for him last summer.

yeah, I knew Id seen this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...r-have-25m-bid-fulham-prodigy-ryan-sessegnon/

The Doc · Jan 20, 2018

The Doc said:
Another thing - Fulham's owner is worth considerably more than Joe Lewis. He also owns an NFL team.

Eh? What do you mean no? According to Forbes he most certainly is, by a considerable margin too:

https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/#194b6285251c

allpaths · Jan 20, 2018

Dillspur said:
I'm not saying they should be happy, I just disagree that they would have been screwed over had they accepted what we offered last year

no they still would have been screwed because they invested and put in the work in Sessegnon and if he didnt sign his contract they would have conservatively lost 70% of his market value. Assuming that his MV is 50m and his tribunal fee would have been 15m. That's the definition of screwed over.

WiganSpur · Jan 20, 2018

This has the potential to be a dangerous situation imo.

If Rose is finished injury wise and or leaves then Sessegnon's high price tag doesn't bode well for the summer. I don't want us leaving a replacement very late again. If they want £50m we should leave it and look elsewhere.

I'd expect that kind of money for an established 23yo PL left back, not someone who's never set foot in the PL.

bubble07 · Jan 20, 2018

Wrong thread

Dillspur · Jan 20, 2018

allpaths said:
no they still would have been screwed because they invested and put in the work in Sessegnon and if he didnt sign his contract they would have conservatively lost 70% of his market value. Assuming that his MV is 50m and his tribunal fee would have been 15m. That's the definition of screwed over.

The 15m is what I came up with for the tribunal fee (total baseless), the rumors were we offered 25m, for a 16 year old that is not getting screwed over.

allpaths · Jan 20, 2018

Dillspur said:
The 15m is what I came up with for the tribunal fee (total baseless), the rumors were we offered 25m, for a 16 year old that is not getting screwed over.

still losing out on half his value, whichever way you look at it would have been an ugly example of indecent modern footballing business practices.

guy · Jan 20, 2018

allpaths said:
still losing out on half his value, whichever way you look at it would have been an ugly example of indecent modern footballing business practices.

He was not worth 50mill at that time was he? He's a year older now, and prices have inflated massively

They weren't missing out on anything

mark87 · Jan 20, 2018

mark_2017 said:
I've got hospitality tickets for Fulham v Burton this saturday, seats are just below the directors and I'll be there for about 5 hours with free grub and an open bar. I'll try and find out something about what's going on with RS

Sorry everyone, found out the square root of fuck all.

Having watched the game, despite scoring twice he had a very quiet game.

He played in an advanced attacking left position and first half he hardly saw the ball, and each time get got it he hardly did anything with it.

Second half was more of the same, the two goals he scored were inside the penalty spot when the ball fumbled it's way to him and he finished it.

He definitely didn't stand out but scored twice.

Burton were fucking appalling too.

allpaths · Jan 20, 2018

guy said:
He was not worth 50mill at that time was he? He's a year older now, and prices have inflated massively

They weren't missing out on anything

Yes becuase if you sell any asset just before it's about to skyrocket then you'd feel a little stupid and cheated.

fatpiranha · Jan 20, 2018

fortworthspur said:
I thought we did offer 25 million for him last summer.

Last summer wasn't a year ago

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That's kind of beside the point though. My post wasn't some Captain Hindsight look how clever I was thing because I could just as easily have been wrong and the naysayers were right when they said it was a ridiculous price for a 16 year old. My opinion that it was a price worth paying is neither here or there. The question is whether £50M is a ridiculous price for a 17 year old? Specifically this 17 year old. I don't know. It's not my money and I rate the kid so i'm edging towards yes but I could easily be wrong.

The point of my previous post was that this is the last chance we will have to make that decision because we sure as hell aren't going to pay £100M for an 18 year old. After this window it will be someone else's turn to take the risk because we will be priced out.

tiger666 · Jan 20, 2018

fatpiranha said:
The point of my previous post was that this is the last chance we will have to make that decision because we sure as hell aren't going to pay £100M for an 18 year old. After this window it will be someone else's turn to take the risk because we will be priced out.

Fulham probably aren't selling this window.

fatpiranha · Jan 20, 2018

tiger666 said:
Fulham probably aren't selling this window.

That's down to them but then they are taking the risk. I think if we offered £50M and a loan back till the end of the season they'd very likely take it. I don't think we would offer that though and i'm undecided whether we should. Sessegnon isn't going to be playing in the World Cup and who knows who else might emerge.

I don't think we would offer that deal though so it's all likely to be hypothetical.

tiger666 · Jan 20, 2018

fatpiranha said:
That's down to them but then they are taking the risk. I think if we offered £50M and a loan back till the end of the season they'd very likely take it.

This is the problem. People assuming what they'd accept and getting pissy with the club for not offering it. You said last summer that we should bid £25m, apparently we did and they rejected it.

spursfan77 · Jan 20, 2018

Football is going mad if he’s going for £50 million. More money than sense. If it’s that much there’s no chance we will buy him.

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