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worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
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Been off the grid so just read Hercules' info on Sessegnon and I have to say whoever advised him to stay at Fulham did right by him even if we don't like it, the real test of their advice will come when it is time for him to move.

edit: Is this spam? Sorry I thought it was directly related to what was said in the ITK.
 
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Everlasting Seconds

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I want to caveat the following with the comment that I am in no way doubting that @Hercules posts what he does in good faith, nor am I doubting the validity of his information as there is no way the mods would let him post as much as he does, as excitedly as he does without having seen watertight evidence that his knowledge is accurate. However, I think we all need to temper our expectations massively and not be drawn in by how infectious herc’s style of posting can be.

Why? Because anything can change, leaving us disappointed and it won’t be Herc’s fault, it won’t be the club’s fault, it will just be what it is. Le Tissier, Petit, Rivaldo, Willian, Hunterlaar, Keita, all players for whom the deal was at the line, ready to be pushed over, only for something to change at the death. I imagine that there are multiple times more situation similar to this which we’ve never even heard about. The issue is that, thanks to the internet, social media, etc we know so much more, so much earlier than ever before. Don’t make the mistake of thinking anything is signed, sealed and delivered until it is officially announced by the club, or else you leave yourself open to massive disappointment.

The main thing anyone should take from all this lovely ITK Herc is giving us is that the club have identified a way to improve and are doing everything in their power to achieve it, which is all we can ever expect ultimately.
I here I was thinking you'd try to spoil everybody's fun. :meh:
 

BringBack_leGin

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Jul 28, 2004
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I here I was thinking you'd try to spoil everybody's fun. :meh:

I 100% am not, but collectively forgetting to apply that metaphorical pinch of salt is exactly what leads to the massive amount of knee jerking and toy throwing that occurs each time the window shuts and people haven't got what they want, as well as putting off several very good ITKs from continuing to give us information.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Jul 10, 2008
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I 100% am not, but collectively forgetting to apply that metaphorical pinch of salt is exactly what leads to the massive amount of knee jerking and toy throwing that occurs each time the window shuts and people haven't got what they want, as well as putting off several very good ITKs from continuing to give us information.

Admirable effort but you know full well if we don't sign any of the mentioned by the end of this window there will be numerous threads started with titles such as 'is Levy holding us back?'and 'how long until Pochettino has had enough?' etc.. where the pitch forks will well and truly be out because we didn't sign player X, Y and Z as they would have seen us overtake City for the race for the prem, champions league and FA cup. You know its how this mad house operates
 

Trix

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I 100% am not, but collectively forgetting to apply that metaphorical pinch of salt is exactly what leads to the massive amount of knee jerking and toy throwing that occurs each time the window shuts and people haven't got what they want, as well as putting off several very good ITKs from continuing to give us information.

I'm not expecting any significant incomings or outgoings to happen this window, but that doesn't mean we won't be buying.

I'm hearing pushing for three but unlikely for this window. The asking prices though are unprecedented with anything we have done previously so I'm sceptical on our intent to get all of them, and I'm (my opinion only) thinking it's more likely to be a two from three scenario.
The intent has always been for us to be as competitive as possible moving into the new stadium and it looks like we will be making an added push transfer wise to ensure that is the case.

Re the reason I quoted your post in particular.....

I have been reluctant to post anything the last couple of weeks, because the last time I did it swiftly followed with numerous posts using my info as yet another chance to have a pop at Sissokko purely because of how much he cost in comparison. I'm happy to pass bits on that I hear, but if that info is just going to be used(quoted)to fuel unrelated agenda ridden pops at the club/players I just won't bother.

Trix
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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I'm not expecting any significant incomings or outgoings to happen this window, but that doesn't mean we won't be buying.

I'm hearing pushing for three but unlikely for this window. The asking prices though are unprecedented with anything we have done previously so I'm sceptical on our intent to get all of them, and I'm (my opinion only) thinking it's more likely to be a two from three scenario.
The intent has always been for us to be as competitive as possible moving into the new stadium and it looks like we will be making an added push transfer wise to ensure that is the case.

Re the reason I quoted your post in particular.....

I have been reluctant to post anything the last couple of weeks, because the last time I did it swiftly followed with numerous posts using my info as yet another chance to have a pop at Sissokko purely because of how much he cost in comparison. I'm happy to pass bits on that I hear, but if that info is just going to be used(quoted)to fuel unrelated agenda ridden pops at the club/players I just won't bother.

Trix

Thanks trix. It's up to you what information you pass and we are greatful for the stuff you do pass on. At the end of the day people are people.
 

SpartanSpur

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Jan 27, 2011
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I'm not expecting any significant incomings or outgoings to happen this window, but that doesn't mean we won't be buying.

I'm hearing pushing for three but unlikely for this window. The asking prices though are unprecedented with anything we have done previously so I'm sceptical on our intent to get all of them, and I'm (my opinion only) thinking it's more likely to be a two from three scenario.
The intent has always been for us to be as competitive as possible moving into the new stadium and it looks like we will be making an added push transfer wise to ensure that is the case.

Re the reason I quoted your post in particular.....

I have been reluctant to post anything the last couple of weeks, because the last time I did it swiftly followed with numerous posts using my info as yet another chance to have a pop at Sissokko purely because of how much he cost in comparison. I'm happy to pass bits on that I hear, but if that info is just going to be used(quoted)to fuel unrelated agenda ridden pops at the club/players I just won't bother.

Trix

Thanks for the info.

Really added some weight to the Malcom stuff the other day when you said it tied in to what you heard that morning. Even if you just do stuff like that it's greatly appreciated.

Interesting you have mentioned figures greater than what we've done before. Malcom would be a record but seemingly not a massive jump on the Sanchez deal. Sessegnon does sound like it might be pushing record levels too.

Maybe the special player mentioned by other Itks.
 

Lemon

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Think with the prices going further north chatter, there must be strong rumours the next TV deal is going much higher also.

Otherwise a lot of clubs are gambling their clubs future stability playing this market.

If we signed agreement's for both Malcom and Sessegnon during this window, I'll be worried one of our key players have privately let known that he is going, think that is natural given our history since the early 80's.
 

Spurs4CL

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Jan 7, 2015
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I want to caveat the following with the comment that I am in no way doubting that @Hercules posts what he does in good faith, nor am I doubting the validity of his information as there is no way the mods would let him post as much as he does, as excitedly as he does without having seen watertight evidence that his knowledge is accurate. However, I think we all need to temper our expectations massively and not be drawn in by how infectious herc’s style of posting can be.

Why? Because anything can change, leaving us disappointed and it won’t be Herc’s fault, it won’t be the club’s fault, it will just be what it is. Le Tissier, Petit, Rivaldo, Willian, Hunterlaar, Keita, all players for whom the deal was at the line, ready to be pushed over, only for something to change at the death. I imagine that there are multiple times more situation similar to this which we’ve never even heard about. The issue is that, thanks to the internet, social media, etc we know so much more, so much earlier than ever before. Don’t make the mistake of thinking anything is signed, sealed and delivered until it is officially announced by the club, or else you leave yourself open to massive disappointment.

The main thing anyone should take from all this lovely ITK Herc is giving us is that the club have identified a way to improve and are doing everything in their power to achieve it, which is all we can ever expect ultimately.
Id like to caveat this post by admitting I didn't read any of your post but I assume it was titillating throughout with an m.night shalamalayan style twist at the end that will have us all reaching for our dicks.
 

BringBack_leGin

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I'm not expecting any significant incomings or outgoings to happen this window, but that doesn't mean we won't be buying.

I'm hearing pushing for three but unlikely for this window. The asking prices though are unprecedented with anything we have done previously so I'm sceptical on our intent to get all of them, and I'm (my opinion only) thinking it's more likely to be a two from three scenario.
The intent has always been for us to be as competitive as possible moving into the new stadium and it looks like we will be making an added push transfer wise to ensure that is the case.

Re the reason I quoted your post in particular.....

I have been reluctant to post anything the last couple of weeks, because the last time I did it swiftly followed with numerous posts using my info as yet another chance to have a pop at Sissokko purely because of how much he cost in comparison. I'm happy to pass bits on that I hear, but if that info is just going to be used(quoted)to fuel unrelated agenda ridden pops at the club/players I just won't bother.

Trix

For anybody who doubts that good itks are posting less because of the obnoxious, agenda driven knee jerking that goes on in this place, please read this. (Yes trix, I’m aware of the irony of using your post to highlight my agenda against rage-babies, I hope you don’t mind).

And thanks for the update trix, lots to be pleased about with how the club are approaching things these days it seems. Hopefully they pull it off.
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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I'm not expecting any significant incomings or outgoings to happen this window, but that doesn't mean we won't be buying.

I'm hearing pushing for three but unlikely for this window. The asking prices though are unprecedented with anything we have done previously so I'm sceptical on our intent to get all of them, and I'm (my opinion only) thinking it's more likely to be a two from three scenario.
The intent has always been for us to be as competitive as possible moving into the new stadium and it looks like we will be making an added push transfer wise to ensure that is the case.

Re the reason I quoted your post in particular.....

I have been reluctant to post anything the last couple of weeks, because the last time I did it swiftly followed with numerous posts using my info as yet another chance to have a pop at Sissokko purely because of how much he cost in comparison. I'm happy to pass bits on that I hear, but if that info is just going to be used(quoted)to fuel unrelated agenda ridden pops at the club/players I just won't bother.

Trix
Mate, the VAST majority of us on here take what you provide in exactly the way it is intended. There will always be a minority of bellends who will use it for their own agenda. Even if you don’t post your info they’ll still roll out their twaddle.

Don’t let those clowns dictate your actions. ITK like yourself are highly valued and extremely appreciated by better than 90% of us on here.

Keep up the sterling work please. This place will be lessened considerately without your input.
 

Hercules

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Jul 23, 2014
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Lol ‘Sunday School’. Match time. I give very honest, to the point info, and hints. To date it is on point. I am going to be more careful, and temper my need to assist with snippets, as some just cannot get how delicate things get. JJ can confirm that.

I will go back to being very annoyingly vague, because when I let my head out it runs many risks :(

Safer to be very vague I think :confused:

I know for a fact 2 players of stock have been at the complex (HW) very recently, and looks very good. As Trix said there is 3, but I expect 2. We have our hands in many pies. Let’s see what happens.

Personal request please. Accept my comments, or reject them, keeping your opinions to yourself:smug:

Take the hint:peeking:
 
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rawhide

I have issues...
Jan 28, 2011
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I'm not expecting any significant incomings or outgoings to happen this window, but that doesn't mean we won't be buying.

I'm hearing pushing for three but unlikely for this window. The asking prices though are unprecedented with anything we have done previously so I'm sceptical on our intent to get all of them, and I'm (my opinion only) thinking it's more likely to be a two from three scenario.
The intent has always been for us to be as competitive as possible moving into the new stadium and it looks like we will be making an added push transfer wise to ensure that is the case.

Re the reason I quoted your post in particular.....

I have been reluctant to post anything the last couple of weeks, because the last time I did it swiftly followed with numerous posts using my info as yet another chance to have a pop at Sissokko purely because of how much he cost in comparison. I'm happy to pass bits on that I hear, but if that info is just going to be used(quoted)to fuel unrelated agenda ridden pops at the club/players I just won't bother.

Trix

Lol ‘Sunday School’. Match time. I give very honest, to the point info, and hints. To date it is on point. I am going to be more careful, and temper my need to assist with snippets, as some just cannot get how delicate things get. JJ can confirm that.

I will go back to bring very annoyingly vague, because when I let my head out it runs many risks :(

Safer to be very vague I think :confused:

I know for a fact 2 players of stock have been at the complex (HW) very recently, and looks very good. As Trix said there is 3, but I expect 2. We have our hands in many pies. Let’s see what happens.

Personal request please. Accept my comments, or reject them, keeping your opinions to yourself:smug:

Take the hint:peeking:

Thank you both for your contributions and information, as it’s greatly appreciated.

Please don’t feel pressured to post ITK, or dispirited when the vocal minority pick your posts apart.
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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Lol ‘Sunday School’. Match time. I give very honest, to the point info, and hints. To date it is on point. I am going to be more careful, and temper my need to assist with snippets, as some just cannot get how delicate things get. JJ can confirm that.

I will go back to bring very annoyingly vague, because when I let my head out it runs many risks :(

Safer to be very vague I think :confused:

I know for a fact 2 players of stock have been at the complex (HW) very recently, and looks very good. As Trix said there is 3, but I expect 2. We have our hands in many pies. Let’s see what happens.

Personal request please. Accept my comments, or reject them, keeping your opinions to yourself:smug:

Take the hint:peeking:
I’ll say the same to you as Trix Herc. You’re HUGELY appreciated on here. Don’t let a small amount of halfwits dictate to you what you feel you should post, the rest of us really look forward to what you ITK’s have to share with us.
 

matthew.absurdum

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Aug 31, 2012
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Lol ‘Sunday School’. Match time. I give very honest, to the point info, and hints. To date it is on point. I am going to be more careful, and temper my need to assist with snippets, as some just cannot get how delicate things get. JJ can confirm that.

I will go back to being very annoyingly vague, because when I let my head out it runs many risks :(

Safer to be very vague I think :confused:

I know for a fact 2 players of stock have been at the complex (HW) very recently, and looks very good. As Trix said there is 3, but I expect 2. We have our hands in many pies. Let’s see what happens.

Personal request please. Accept my comments, or reject them, keeping your opinions to yourself:smug:

Take the hint:peeking:

No. My comment is I love you
 

Majick

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All hints and tips are gratefully received - players at HW, for example - but it's all part of the soap opera and fluff surrounding the real business, and important not to take too seriously.
 
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