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Southampton vs Tottenham: Match Thread

Davo99

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You have this condescending aura but I think it’s completely misplaced - admin or not.
 

Davo99

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We actually spent £30m on him. That’s crazy. We are usually quite good with money but that has to go down as one of the worst purchases of recent times.
 

Sweetsman

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He is not fucking awful.
Lamela missed a better chance and gave the ball away constantly as well but he seems to get a free pass.
I know sissoko has his faults but he also has some very good parts to his game, as does lamela.
It was an average performance by the whole team so let’s not put the whole blame at sc favourite scapegoat please
People are moaning about Son being taken off, and to be honest I would have brought on Lamela for Sissoko, but he wasn't at his best and it usually means he's not going to impact on the game.
 

dondo

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It wasn’t a great team performance but it rarely is when Sissoko and Dier are in the same midfield. You’re just a typical enabler. If you don’t think Sissoko isn’t good enough for a top 4 or title challenging or champions league challenging team, I’m not sure you actually want the best for the Club.


And your a typical cry baby when things don’t go your way.
Sissoko is a squad player, he only played because eriksen was ill.
Other top team have a drop in quality when their top players are out too you know
 

spursfan77

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Sissoko had one of his better games today but the trouble with him is that he doesn't help our smooth attacking play at all. Although we looked most dangerous in the last moments of the game when he ran with the ball. Trouble is his control and decision making is so poor that it always comes to nothing.
 
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I know you're itching to pull the trigger on Lamela.
IDK what Lamela is supposed to do. He was out for 14 months and gets the occasional 15-20 minutes at the end of games to re-find his form. It's predictable he's looked mediocre so far. Meanwhile Alli could throw on an opposing team kit and start scoring own goals and all Poch would do is talk about the greatness of Dele. It's infuriating.
 

Davo99

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And your a typical cry baby when things don’t go your way.
Sissoko is a squad player, he only played because eriksen was ill.
Other top team have a drop in quality when their top players are out too you know
winks is a squad option. Lamela. Decent bloody footballers.
Sissoko is awful. What’s so difficult to see? Most people can see it and just agree but I suppose we have always got to have the odd hero that likes to go against the grain.
 

Phomesy

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I think he's OK, I think he's inconsistent, and I think he plays because he can drive the play forward.

When he's allowed to drive forward on the break - when we play a back 3 and on the counter - he's clearly more effective and dangerous and its easier to see what his worth is to Poch.

In the 4-2-3-1 he's neither a DM nor an AM and its harder to see what the role is he's doing that Poch sees enough to use him over and over. It's mainly a risk free and non-progressive role to allow Son/All/Eriksen to commit totally to attack.

But it's hard to try and work these things out. Particularly as he's never trying the exciting thing. So its just easier for the spittle flecked hate merchants and doom mongerers to follow the herd of sheep and bleat about him non-stop.

If it wasn't him they'd find someone to else to blame for their own inability to understand what the coach is doing - or Spurs inability to buy the world.

Anyway - fully fit squad and its not an issue.
 

Davo99

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Worse than Soldado or Janssen?
Yep. Janssen was half the price and a young player with potential. Soldado was a very good striker who joined when we have about five defensive mods and one creative mid. He was starved of service and completely lost all confidence.

Sissoko is just bad.
 

Phomesy

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The trouble is, that’s not true is it. He’s played in most of our games this season, we haven’t been shite in all of them. We even beat Real Madrid with him in the team. Yet whenever we do play badly, he gets the blame. It was the same with Ade, Paulinho, and Jenas.

He came on for Toby in the home leg against Real.

Started at the Bernabau.

Short memories but also worth noting we played a different more counter based formation which suits him better.
 

jonathanhotspur

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One thing strikes me, Poch is way too passive during our games. I think he's great at bullding a team with fit players. And there's nothing wrong with his philosphy or whatever we should call it. It has transformed us from a mid table team to a top team. But I feel that he's way to confident in his philosophy, which makes him passive during our games. Even when we play bad. Very often, his subsitutions has been a reaction of our opponent scoring a goal. Today, after 55 minutes, when a Southampton player was injured, he had the chance to gather the players and give instructions or change something. But he didn't. He just sat there and did nothing. He's way to passive and sometimes it feels like he has no plan B. Maybe I'm too harsh, because I love Poch. But this is the way I feel.
I know what you mean. We need to get him jumping up and down like Conte.
 

Sweetsman

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When he's allowed to drive forward on the break - when we play a back 3 and on the counter - he's clearly more effective and dangerous and its easier to see what his worth is to Poch.

In the 4-2-3-1 he's neither a DM nor an AM and its harder to see what the role is he's doing that Poch sees enough to use him over and over. It's mainly a risk free and non-progressive role to allow Son/All/Eriksen to commit totally to attack.

But it's hard to try and work these things out. Particularly as he's never trying the exciting thing. So its just easier for the spittle flecked hate merchants and doom mongerers to follow the herd of sheep and bleat about him non-stop.

If it wasn't him they'd find someone to else to blame for their own inability to understand what the coach is doing - or Spurs inability to buy the world.

Anyway - fully fit squad and its not an issue.
I hope the others will read this and think about what you've written, but that's being overly optimistic.
 

Davo99

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I dunno, am I an admin or not?

16th August 1989. That was the day todays own goal was born. Coincidentally, it was also the day Sissoko was born. Now if only Mr Sissoko hadn't given Mrs Sissoko the big one nine months earlier, we might not have conceded today. So, to put this to bed, todays own goal is actually Mr Sissoko's fault for not shooting him across his mothers arse that fateful night instead of leaving it in.
Fuck you going on about man? Sissoko is shit and you’re just chatting it.
 

Sweetsman

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When he's allowed to drive forward on the break - when we play a back 3 and on the counter - he's clearly more effective and dangerous and its easier to see what his worth is to Poch.

In the 4-2-3-1 he's neither a DM nor an AM and its harder to see what the role is he's doing that Poch sees enough to use him over and over. It's mainly a risk free and non-progressive role to allow Son/All/Eriksen to commit totally to attack.

But it's hard to try and work these things out. Particularly as he's never trying the exciting thing. So its just easier for the spittle flecked hate merchants and doom mongerers to follow the herd of sheep and bleat about him non-stop.

If it wasn't him they'd find someone to else to blame for their own inability to understand what the coach is doing - or Spurs inability to buy the world.

Anyway - fully fit squad and its not an issue.
He doesn't try the exciting things as he's aware of his limitations and he lacks confidence. I was flabbergasted when Wanyama tried a shot given his radar is set to NFL.
 

Johnny J

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When he's allowed to drive forward on the break - when we play a back 3 and on the counter - he's clearly more effective and dangerous and its easier to see what his worth is to Poch.

In the 4-2-3-1 he's neither a DM nor an AM and its harder to see what the role is he's doing that Poch sees enough to use him over and over. It's mainly a risk free and non-progressive role to allow Son/All/Eriksen to commit totally to attack.

But it's hard to try and work these things out. Particularly as he's never trying the exciting thing. So its just easier for the spittle flecked hate merchants and doom mongerers to follow the herd of sheep and bleat about him non-stop.

If it wasn't him they'd find someone to else to blame for their own inability to understand what the coach is doing - or Spurs inability to buy the world.

Anyway - fully fit squad and its not an issue.
So what *does* he do in the 4-2-3-1? Genuine question, because I can't work it out.
 
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