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Japhet

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It's slow use of the ball and ponderous passing that slows us down, not lack of running pace. Teams know that we struggle to break down bus parkers, so they all try to do it. We need incisive, accurate passing which is what Eriksen offers, and without him it's like we're running in treacle. Malcom has the ability to find those passes and use the ball without taking 5 touches and that's where 'pace' comes from, not some whippet on the wing who can't pass. He's also got a hammer of a left peg on which is another thing we could do with.
 

JonnySpurs

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I just saw a very telling stat on Twitter: From 99 subsitute appearances this season for Spurs they have returned a rather embarrassing 1 goal and 1 assist.

That right there epitomises both the problem, in terms of lack of quality depth/impact from the bench, but also how strong our first 11 is and whilst that's awesome, we MUST have players that can be an x factor off the bench. Someone we all feel excited about when they come on. ALL of the teams above us have that option and it's where we fall behind quite dramatically.
 

Gb160

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I just saw a very telling stat on Twitter: From 99 subsitute appearances this season for Spurs they have returned a rather embarrassing 1 goal and 1 assist.

That right there epitomises both the problem, in terms of lack of quality depth/impact from the bench, but also how strong our first 11 is and whilst that's awesome, we MUST have players that can be an x factor off the bench. Someone we all feel excited about when they come on. ALL of the teams above us have that option and it's where we fall behind quite dramatically.
Has anyone put that stat into any kind of context yet?
In isolation it doesn't really mean anything.
 

JonnySpurs

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Context mate, as in how it compares to other managers.

I hadn't read it yet, posted it before reading. My bad. Not aware of how it compares but doubt it's overly favourable.

EDIT: Just to clarify, I got the stat from a tweet which is why I didn't initially read the article as I didn't have time to at the time I saw it and as I have clarified later, I personally thought the stat was bad enough whether the article contained any comparisons with other teams or not.
 
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LexingtonSpurs

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Its as if he did not watch the match:
Lamela was given 20 minutes to rescue three crucial points in the race for Champions League qualification; Kieran Trippier was handed 18 and Victor Wanyama six. At 1-1, Pochettino sent on a winger, a full-back and a defensive midfielder in search of a goal, as striker Fernando Llorente looked on.

Lamela - the player who most wanted to start
Trippier - not a planned sub - came on for injured Aurier
Wanyama - on before Dembele picked up a red

Its the Trippier sub that probably cost Llorente a spot - but what are you going to do? Play Llorente at RB?
 

JonnySpurs

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At least you're not jumping to conclusions.

Oh jeez....not jumping to any conclusions.

It doesn't take an expert to recognise that 1 goal and 1 assist from 99 substitute appearances is bad. I was merely trying to point out that we need a player who can offer an impact and hopefully Malcom would be that player.

No need to be a bit of a dick about it.
 

brendanb50

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Context mate, as in how it compares to other managers.

I agree. I'm sure there are some who are just as bad/worse and it's worth comparing to understand if it's truly relevant.

Ultimately, the article does highlight something i think we're all seeing as fans; our use (and timing) of subs hasn't impacted the games as we've intended and it does raise bigger questions about said options and how much faith Poch has in some of our younger squad players.

To get back on track, i've not seen much of Malcolm but managed properly i'm sure he could be a good impact player from the bench and in due course a strong contributor to our attacking play. Poch will need to work hard on him in my view though to ensure his potential isn't wasted. Brazilians don't always adapt well in the PL.
 

Gb160

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Oh jeez....not jumping to any conclusions.

It doesn't take an expert to recognise that 1 goal and 1 assist from 99 substitute appearances is bad. I was merely trying to point out that we need a player who can offer an impact and hopefully Malcom would be that player.

No need to be a bit of a dick about it.
You've just assumed that it doesn't compare favourably, without anything to compare it to.
That's the definition of jumping to a conclusion mate.
 

JonnySpurs

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Or - it could show that Poch does a great job in picking the starting XI....

Don't think anyone really disputes that though do they? Aside from BC of course.

I think both you and Gb160 are getting super defensive over Poch like I'm trying to smear his abilities as a manager. I'm most definitely not. I'm trying to support the idea that we need better quality coming off our bench and that stat does support it.

To suggest the stat on it's own means nothing isn't fair, after all, wouldn't you have hoped that our subs could have provided more than 1 goal and 1 assist from 99 appearances? I appreciate it would be good to have the comparison with other teams but I don't have it.
 
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JonnySpurs

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You've just assumed that it doesn't compare favourably, without anything to compare it to.
That's the definition of jumping to a conclusion mate.

You're right, I have assumed because I think the stat on it's own is pretty bad, irrespective of how it compares. You can pretend it isn't without the comparison if you like but I don't need the comparison to know it doesn't look good.

1 goal and 1 assist from 99 appearances.
 

yankspurs

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Don't think anyone really disputes that though do they? Aside from BC of course.

I think both you and Gb160 are getting super defensive over Poch like I'm trying to smear his abilities as a manager. I'm most definitely not. I'm trying to support the idea that we need better quality coming off our bench and that stat does support it.

To suggest the stat on it's own means nothing isn't fair, after all, wouldn't you have hoped that our subs could have provided more than 1 goal and 1 assist from 99 appearances? I appreciate it would be good to have the comparison with our teams but I don't have it.
Mate, its SC. You cant criticize Poch on here without people thinking you want him sacked. The love affair most on here has for Poch has spun wildly out of control.
 
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