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C0YS

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For what its worth

Gallagher and Graham Poll thought that all decisions were correct and that the officials had a good match. The only decenting opinion keith Hackett who believed Lovren failing to connect with the ball meant it couldn't possibly be intentional, no disagreements with the other pens though. Interesting that the one out lier also happens to be the one who has been longest out of the game.
 

bubble07

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I can't believe how two former pros Lawro and jenas just don't know the rules, how did they play football, it's crazy

And then the guy tells them the rules and they just ignore it ffs

Actually it's lawro I suppose

Tbf neither did redknapp and kane
 

cwy21

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The only decenting opinion keith Hackett who believed Lovren failing to connect with the ball meant it couldn't possibly be intentional, no disagreements with the other pens though. Interesting that the one out lier also happens to be the one who has been longest out of the game.

I'm not surprised. I see it all the time when you get an old timer ref who doesn't bother to keep up to date with changes of law and their interpretations.
 

wakefieldyid

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All the "experts" missed the fact that there was a Liverpool player (Matip?) clearly encroaching into the penalty area as Kane took his first penalty kick. It should have been retaken.
 

wakefieldyid

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It's all fluff and noise to drown out the fact that Klopp's Liverpool were comprehensively dominated by Spurs in that second half. None of Klopp's changes had any affect whatsoever on our dominance and when Wanyama's goal went in, there really only seemed one likely winner.

The so-called "controversial penalty" was missed - which actually got Liverpool back in the game. Before that they were bereft.

Klopp pulling a Mou and doing it beautifully.
Ironically Souness called it right immediately after the game. Liverpool would have needed to be allowed 6 substitutions to have competed with Spurs in the second half. Their midfield simply can't maintain the intensity of the press for more than 45 minutes, and this is ultimately Klopp's achilles heel...
 

Col_M

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Ironically Souness called it right immediately after the game. Liverpool would have needed to be allowed 6 substitutions to have competed with Spurs in the second half. Their midfield simply can't maintain the intensity of the press for more than 45 minutes, and this is ultimately Klopp's achilles heel...

I’m surprised you heard him over the noise of that Shirt, Jacket and Tie combo.
 

Graysonti

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We was superb yesterday bar a couple of mistakes.

66% possession being the largest for an away team since record began.

Liverpool should be happy they got a draw the deluded f@@@s
 

$hoguN

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Having time to reflect on the performance. Firstly, wow we are a great side. Hats off to a Dembele who was unplayable for the majority of the match. While I can sensibly see that 4 points from these games is a great return, we should have won that game. I’m not sure what Kane was doing for the first penalty. The pressure of the 100 goals got to him, but can I equal that out by saying it took massive mental strength to take the ball minutes later and smash it in. The guy is a hero

Pleased with the performance, but just a little disappointed with the result. Also massively well done to Pochettino and the coaches for getting us as fit as we are. Liverpool were out on their feet from the 60 minute mark
 

Trix

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There will always be cases where the referees have to make an interpretation. Whether the contact was enough to give a penalty kick or if the player in an offside position was blocking the view of the keeper. You can't write the laws in a way where those types of decisions involving the opinion of the referee are removed. But today's decisions were fairly black and white.

For the 3rd and last time I completely agree, and have said so in every reply to you. My point is in general and is not based on yesterdays decisions.
 

Gb160

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Barton hitting the nail on the head this morning, they were both penalties, problem is that most people just don't understand the rules.
 

worcestersauce

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Sports report woman on BBC says Kane had two penalties one was offside!? No it wasn't dear.
If Lovren intercepted that pass controlled it and passed it back to the keeper and Harry pounced on it nobody would call offside, well that is effectively what happened, ok Lovren is pretty hopeless so he completely miss kicked his interception and gave it straight to Harry Kane, the law is clear and it covered it perfectly.
 

Trix

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I'm not surprised. I see it all the time when you get an old timer ref who doesn't bother to keep up to date with changes of law and their interpretations.

But this is exactly what I am talking about. They changed the law regarding offside to allow a non active player to be in an offside position, and have since had to keep bringing in numerous amendment's/by laws just to make it work. There was nothing wrong with the rule the way it was and was easy for everyone to understand and more importantly to get right. It has been over complicated for very little gain to attacking play imo.
 

sebo_sek

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I think that as Kane has finally popped the 100 mark, we will see a more relaxed side to his game. You could tell how tense he was in front of goal against United and yesterday.
But boy do we have a team on our hands. 66% possession, close to double the passes (587 vs 303), more shots and we plaed away.



OH, AND KLOPP IS A FUCKING LOSER! The guy should get a fine for his theatrics. No wait, he should get a smack in that crooked gob of his.
 

Spursmatty87

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See vvd didn’t take long to settle into klopps over reactions ways. I’d honestly be embarrassed to have klopp as manager. He reminds my keegan.
 

knowlespurs

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But this is exactly what I am talking about. They changed the law regarding offside to allow a non active player to be in an offside position, and have since had to keep bringing in numerous amendment's/by laws just to make it work. There was nothing wrong with the rule the way it was and was easy for everyone to understand and more importantly to get right. It has been over complicated for very little gain to attacking play imo.
no your wrong, as Jenas and Lawro said as he is an offside position he is offside
why on earth do these people think that there view is correct, even when the laws are different, and if there views are wrong then the law needs changing
how on earth the liverpool fans can moan about the 2nd pen is beyond me, VVD smashes into the back of Lamelas calf, 100% pen
 

Shadydan

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The most positive thing from this match is that we are clearly getting stronger and fitter as as always do this time of year under Poch, compare us to how Liverpool looked yesterday and you could see that we were the fitter team by an absolute mile especially in the 2nd half and that bodes really for the rest of the season bearing in mind we have CL football coming up and key players returning as well.
 

Seth

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no your wrong, as Jenas and Lawro said as he is an offside position he is offside
why on earth do these people think that there view is correct, even when the laws are different, and if there views are wrong then the law needs changing
how on earth the liverpool fans can moan about the 2nd pen is beyond me, VVD smashes into the back of Lamelas calf, 100% pen

The law states that if the defender deliberately touches the ball the attacker is not offside. Loveren absolutely deliberately touched the ball, it was just a very poor touch/miskick. Jenas is wrong to suggest there is a distinction between Dier and Loveren's actions. The only difference is Dier kicked it the way he intended (albeit was a poor decision).
 

sebo_sek

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no your wrong, as Jenas and Lawro said as he is an offside position he is offside
why on earth do these people think that there view is correct, even when the laws are different, and if there views are wrong then the law needs changing
how on earth the liverpool fans can moan about the 2nd pen is beyond me, VVD smashes into the back of Lamelas calf, 100% pen
Bloody nearly took his leg off. That linesman deserves a hefty bonus for that act of bravery. I mean that's what the game has come to - if you flag an offense it's act of bravery.
TBH I didn't see it in real time and was worried about the replay.
 
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