Player Watch: Serge Aurier

BlondelBombshell said:

As others before have said: look at Danny Rose first few seasons with us (and at the start under Poch), diving in, giving away needless free-kicks, losing the ball in our own third. He needed time, he got it; look how good he’s been for us past three seasons.
It’s the same with Aurier... will need a season or so to adapt, plus he was in and out of the PSG team so needs a good run of games.
I also think he can be guilty of trying too hard, by which I mean: he’s desperate to keep his spot and make an impact so he tries to make impossible tackles in order to do something extraordinary.
Give him time, he’ll be a very important player for us!

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Shadydan said:

Go back exactly 3 weeks ago people weren't saying that.

People only react to how good/bad a player's last game was, against Newport county people were calling for Trippier to be dropped and some people were even saying he should be sold lol

I like the battle between these two, there's no first choice at the moment which means they will both push each other to improve, can only be a good thing.

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Luka Van der Bale said:

Laughable.

Can guarantee when he’s putting in great performances in a year’s time this thread will be full of people saying “Oh my God we could never have seen this coming, it’s such a shock that he’s good now!” exactly the same way they did with Walker, Rose, Davies and Trippier. No, some of us can see it coming. Just be patient and stop writing players off so bloody early.

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Nebby said:

Great. But what about the here and now?

We're not talking about a youngster setting out on his career, who can be introduced sparingly. He's a senior member of the first team squad, who seems incapable of going more than one match without doing something incredibly daft.

We are now into the real nitty gritty of the season and it could be one moment of madness that costs us a place in the CL, FA Cup or top four.

And while any player - not just a defender - might be the one who has that moment of madness, you can't really argue with the fact that he is the one serial offender within the squad. He's rash and that's a real worry.

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JimmyG2 said:

I'm not sure why people are so certain
that Mauricio will straighten Serge out.
He didn't get far with kyle Walker or Danny Rose
Technical things, positioning maybe
but temperament, awareness, remains to be seen.

I think there is plenty more upside to his game
but like Kyle and Danny he has a wild side
which may prove beyond even Mauricio's reach.

Trippier has seven assists so far this season.
Just saying.

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Shadydan said:

Yeah I don't think anyone is arguing to the contrary, the point is that people can see his flaws yet people are willing to give him time due to the fact that he's still a relatively young player and he's playing under a coach who is renowned for improving players, why is that hard to understand?

At the end of the day we are where we are, we just have to accept that we have three players in that RB position who aren't the finished article, we can't just bin them off due to a bad performance, In Aurier there's gonna be times where we need his pace and physicality, there's a reason why Poch kept him on last night after his booking for example.

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Nebby said:

What also shouldn't be hard to understand is that Aurier's performances right now make a lot of us very nervous. He's conceded two incredibly rash penalties in the CL. It suggests that right now he lacks the temperament and focus needed in these hostile away matches.

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Paolo10 said:

You also said it can be coached out of him.

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Nebby said:

Patience is great. But patience requires time. So, assuming we get through to the next round and Aurier and Trippier are both fit, who would you pick to play RB? Which player would you put your trust in right now?

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Paolo10 said:

Decision making is not something that can be easily coached to a 25 year old full international professional footballer.

What's Poch going to do? A session on staying on your feet in the box? How not to take risks when you've already been booked?

A list of players who have improved under Poch as FOOTBALLERS, doesn't say anything about their mentality or Poch's ability to change this particular aspect of Aurier for the better...especially when none of them were as bad as Serge for this type of shit.

Was Walker sold because of attitude or ability? Has Danny Rose's attitude changed really (see infamous interview)?

Do you think when Aurier got sent off in 5 mins against West Ham or gave away the penalty against Madrid when we were beating them nothing was said? Has he changed his behaviour since? No. Will he? Time will tell, but I doubt it. Look back at his career to date, there's one thing that's consistent and sadly it doesn't reflect well on Aurier's intelligence as a footballer.

I would LOVE him to prove me wrong and change his ways, as I think he has potential, but at this stage I doubt he will.

Furthermore, the reason I'm as vocal is because Trippier has been getting a fucking shocking time over practically one game against Citeh and Sane, when arguably no-one (IMO) would have been able to handle him in the same circumstances.

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Shadydan said:

So prey tell me how Walker and Rose were still making rash decisions on the pitch when they was 25 and improved no end to the level where they are at now, and whilst both weren't guilty of rash challenges they would still do some silly shit and give away easy goals to the opposition, especially Walker. All you've done is picked up on Aurier's age and written some nonsense just because is suits your agenda...you do realise that every player goes through different growth spurts at different stages of their career don't you...like not every player can become competent at the age of 23 right.

I'm afraid it says a lot about their mentality, they improved to the point where they were making less and less errors and their decision making was much better, really don't get the point you're making about attitude, you've used both examples of Rose and Walker's situations which happened to be off the pitch, I don't understand the point you're making?

How long do you think it takes for players to get rid of bad habits, Aurier has been making those sort of tackles since he became a professional footballer I presume which would be around 8 years so he's used to that way of defending. How do you expect players to rid of something in the space of a few months when they've been doing it for years? I'm sure he's aware that he shouldn't be making those tackles but footballers play off instinct and his instinctive reaction is to slide in out of desperation, you don't even have to realise that when you've been doing something for so long it takes a while to get out of the habit.

So basically you're using the criticism that Trippier faced against Aurier despite the fact that they both play for our team, nice one! This is not a competition you know, you don't have to choose what player is better, you don't need to engage in a black and white argument all the time, the key to being a supporter is to support your own players not knock them over some silly debates online in order to have your opinion vindicated.

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