Summer transfer wish list - 2018

Basil Brush · Feb 14, 2018

Univarn said:
I think it is less a case of 'Willian-d' and more a case of need. It is a low need position at the moment unless we are offloading some of our attackers. Chelsea and Arsenal are both likely to dump a bunch of money this summer to reup their attack because outside of stars they've been erratic. Liverpool will also be on the prowl for a Coutinho replacement. ManU and City buy attackers for the lols so they'll also be shopping.

While i do like your points, are you saying we don't need Sessegnon?

My point is we may do all the hard work on Sess and get "Willian'd" at the last moment by the clubs with more money.

coys200 · Feb 14, 2018

Imo I can only see 2 spaces in the squad Llorente and sissoko. Poch likes a tight squad I can’t see more than the current number of 24. We are already having to leave 5 outfield players out the squad. Unless someone unexpectedly leaves I can only see 2 additions max. And that’s presuming Llorente and sissoko will leave which is no guarantee.

Hengy1 · Feb 14, 2018

I don’t even think we need an attacker tbh

Univarn · Feb 14, 2018

Basil Brush said:
While i do like your points, are you saying we don't need Sessegnon?

My point is we may do all the hard work on Sess and get "Willian'd" at the last moment by the clubs with more money.

Sort of? My reasoning: His future is AM and not LB. Next season we have Kane, Son, Eriksen, Lamela, Moura, Nkoudou, Sissoko, Llorente, Janssen eligible for roughly 6, maybe 7, spots (3-4 on pitch plus 2-3 on bench). Janssen and Nkoudou are 99% gone. Llorente and Sissoko in that wildcard maybe leave slot. If we do sell all 4 then we've got an outside spot for him but what we would need would either be a Llorente 'Kane backup' (which Son can mostly do) or a Sissoko 'AM/CM hybrid' (Winks would most likely take this spot).

I am less concerned with us going for Sess and him choosing one of these other clubs over us rather than his people doing the math and thinking we don't need him and pushing him elsewhere.

Basil Brush · Feb 14, 2018

Univarn said:
Sort of? My reasoning: His future is AM and not LB. Next season we have Kane, Son, Eriksen, Lamela, Moura, Nkoudou, Sissoko, Llorente, Janssen eligible for roughly 6, maybe 7, spots (3-4 on pitch plus 2-3 on bench). Janssen and Nkoudou are 99% gone. Llorente and Sissoko in that wildcard maybe leave slot. If we do sell all 4 then we've got an outside spot for him but what we would need would either be a Llorente 'Kane backup' (which Son can mostly do) or a Sissoko 'AM/CM hybrid' (Winks would most likely take this spot).

I am less concerned with us going for Sess and him choosing one of these other clubs over us rather than his people doing the math and thinking we don't need him and pushing him elsewhere.

Llorente is gone (if we can get close to our money back).

Janssen gone.

Nkoudou, i have no idea about but i think he may go.

The thing about Sess is he can play left back/left wing back and left winger.

Will be interesting to see what happens with him.

THFCSPURS19 · Feb 14, 2018

Dharmabum said:
Then one may argue that, say, Lamela, Dele, Ronaldo and Eden Hazard are playmakers as well.
Malcom plays mainly as WRF.

I think it would be fair to call Lamela and Hazard playmakers. Position is irrelevant. Eriksen started from the left for us in the past, does that mean he wasn't a playmaker?

Basil Brush · Feb 14, 2018

Put me down for Malcom and Sessegnon.

Is that any chance?

Possibly if we sell Rose (but I personally wouldn't) and Sissoko (yeah i would)

mickdale · Feb 14, 2018

Basil Brush said:
Put me down for Malcom and Sessegnon.

Is that any chance?

Possibly if we sell Rose (but I personally wouldn't) and Sissoko (yeah i would)

Sounds about spot on to me

fortworthspur · Feb 14, 2018

we dont need much

Basil Brush · Feb 14, 2018

fortworthspur said:
we dont need much

At the moment.

We will need Neymar and Ronaldo if we lose to Crystal Palace

Edit: I said West Brom but we play Palace next. Freudian slip as WBA are last.

Bus-Conductor · Feb 14, 2018

THFCSPURS19 said:
He is. He's not a traditional winger like Moura. Just because he doesn't play as a 10, it doesn't mean he's not a playmaker.

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Just because someone creates chances doesn’t make them a playmaker.

A playmaker is, as the name suggests, someone who makes plays, dictates tempo, directs play a bit more.

I’m massively over simplifying something that you could probably write a book about (and I’m sure have) but Malcom’s more of a wide forward.

THFCSPURS19 · Feb 14, 2018

Bus-Conductor said:
Just because someone creates chances doesn’t make them a playmaker.

A playmaker is, as the name suggests, someone who makes plays, dictates tempo, directs play a bit more.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure a lot of Bordeaux's play goes through Malcom as he's by a mile their best player.

Bus-Conductor · Feb 14, 2018

THFCSPURS19 said:
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure a lot of Bordeaux's play goes through Malcom as he's by a mile their best player.

You quoted me as I was adding a bit to my post.

As I was saying, it’s hard to clearly define, Just because Malcom plays as a wide forward doesn’t mean he can’t be a playmaker of sorts but equally just because a lot of Bordeaux’s attacking play goes through him doesn’t make him one either.

Like Hazard or Zaha, are both creators who’s team’s attacking play largely goes through them, you still don’t really think of them as playmakers.

Its almost a state of mind. Its nuanced.

Hitch · Feb 14, 2018

Long term Malcom's ideal role will be central. As so often with left footers he is played on the right by coaches almost out of instinct and as a matter of balance (similar to Lamela). He's an excellent winger but even better playmaker. Dictates the play at a high level already and, as a 20 year old, will only improve in that regard over coming years. Not many of the modern great number 10s were played central at that age (especially left footed ones!)

I think he's perfect for us. Will be gutted now if we don't sign him.

EQP · Feb 14, 2018

Hitch said:
Long term Malcom's ideal role will be central. As so often with left footers he is played on the right by coaches almost out of instinct and as a matter of balance (similar to Lamela). He's an excellent winger but even better playmaker. Dictates the play at a high level already and, as a 20 year old, will only improve in that regard over coming years. Not many of the modern great number 10s were played central at that age (especially left footed ones!)

I think he's perfect for us. Will be gutted now if we don't sign him.

Which is why I can't see us buying another CM or backup FWD if we get Malcom. The fact that Son can play as a FWD and Eriksen or Alli can drop back and play as CM's helps us with balancing our attacking options. Son, Eriksen, Moura, Lamela, Alli and possibly Malcom is a very healthy and competitive amount of players.

coys200 · Feb 14, 2018

Imagine if moura turned out to be another salah

When you look at their stats last season they aren’t that far apart. We are due a crazy good signing not had one really since dele.

ilya · Feb 14, 2018

coys200 said:
Imagine if moura turned out to be another salah When you look at their stats last season they aren’t that far apart. We are due a crazy good signing not had one really since dele.

Vic says hi!

Bus-Conductor · Feb 14, 2018

Hitch said:
Long term Malcom's ideal role will be central. As so often with left footers he is played on the right by coaches almost out of instinct and as a matter of balance (similar to Lamela). He's an excellent winger but even better playmaker. Dictates the play at a high level already and, as a 20 year old, will only improve in that regard over coming years. Not many of the modern great number 10s were played central at that age (especially left footed ones!)

I think he's perfect for us. Will be gutted now if we don't sign him.

I disagree, (and I don't think Lamela is a playmaker either) but time will tell I guess.

Ossie85 · Feb 15, 2018

THFCSPURS19 said:
He is. He's not a traditional winger like Moura. Just because he doesn't play as a 10, it doesn't mean he's not a playmaker.

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Do I have to understand that you think he's a playmaker because of those stats??
A winger can get those items easily. Neymar has both those stats over 3 per 90min

Malcom is wide attacking mid, or wide forward. Not a playmaker. David Silva, Bernardo Silva are playmakers that play wide. Malcom is not like them. He's more explosive. A playmaker dictates play, distributes the ball from side to side. Plays short passes to create spaces.
Malcom is practically the definition of an inverted winger

THFCSPURS19 · Feb 15, 2018

Ossie85 said:
Do I have to understand that you think he's a playmaker because of those stats??
A winger can get those to items easily. Neymar has both those stats over 3 per 90min

Malcom is wide attacking mid, or wide forward. Not a playmaker. David Silva, Bernardo Silva are playmakers that play wide. Malcom is not like them. He's more explosive. A playmaker dictates play, distributes the ball from side to side. Plays short passes to create spaces.
Malcom is practically the definition of an inverted winger

I think Bernardo Silva and Malcom are very similar players.

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