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Player Watch: Erik Lamela

Sweetsman

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So good to see him back in the team. His energy and fight has been missed. Really helps with the high press. Wish he has half a right foot to go with his left but you can’t have everything. Get him signed up to a new deal.
He does use his right foot and sent in a nice cross yesterday.
 

Sweetsman

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I can't quite get my head around his comeback.

It's quite something considering.
He has been through some huge life events and has come back tougher. He's also more confident in speaking English; his talent has been nurtured and he hasn't been undermined as when Sherwood made fun of his English. This is one of the reasons why I despise Sherwood and his supporters.
 

chinaman

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I think Steven Gerrard and Glenn Hoddle deciphered it during the post match analysis. He was saying "Leave it for me" and pointing at the ball...which brilliantly led the experienced master Buffon to expect it to be whipped to his left...but that imperative one second was lost when Eriksen then hit hard and low to Buffon's right.

He knew exactly what he was doing.

Should we ever meet Argentina again in a World Cup.... Lamela is going to be the guy who dives in the box in an Argentina vs England World Cup quarter final. He's gonna be the guy that kicks out at an England player, for which he should've been sent off, and then goes on to score the winner in injury time. He's gonna be the guy who winds up England players getting in their faces, even after Argentina are coasting and when it seems so needless and unnecessary. He's gonna be the guy that will be villified by the English press and fans alike for some of his actions. He will not care either.

Many great teams have a player with mental attributes like that, in which the only thing they will care about is winning at all costs...and we ladies and gentlemen...to borrow a phrase... have got one of our own.

When you look back at some of the complete and utter water carriers we've had over the years...it's an absolute breath of fresh air.


Do you see him trying to break Kane's leg?
 

piedpiper

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Hell will freeze over before some people will ever give him credit. He has had vile abuse that he never deserved. I don't forget, nor do I forgive. I'm just keeping my powder dry.

Im not sure you would find any quote from me showing abuse to Lamela or any other player who puts on our shirt...

What you would find from me is critique or opnion on style of play. As i read through this thread its almost a cult like status some have for him.

I've said it repeatedly, i dont see what others see. He is no different to Dele/Son/Winks/Sissoko etc. Im indifferent to him. He has frustrated the hell out of me previously and his cameo's or full games since he's return have been acceptable... By acceptable i mean... He hasnt had me swearing or wanting him subbed. Whereas previously i wanted him sold or not selected as a starter.
 

Basil Brush

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Im not sure you would find any quote from me showing abuse to Lamela or any other player who puts on our shirt...

What you would find from me is critique or opnion on style of play. As i read through this thread its almost a cult like status some have for him.

I've said it repeatedly, i dont see what others see. He is no different to Dele/Son/Winks/Sissoko etc. Im indifferent to him. He has frustrated the hell out of me previously and his cameo's or full games since he's return have been acceptable... By acceptable i mean... He hasnt had me swearing or wanting him subbed. Whereas previously i wanted him sold or not selected as a starter.
I gave you a wtf as you seem to be saying all players are equal.

So is kane the same as vorm (for an example).

Not sure your point.
 

am_yisrael_chai

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I like him as a person and before he got injured he was central to our press. However, since he got injured I think our play has moved on and I haven’t seen anything special since he has come back. If we want to push on we should be upgrading him in the summer. Who would be realistic ? Draxler.
 

piedpiper

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I gave you a wtf as you seem to be saying all players are equal.

So is kane the same as vorm (for an example).

Not sure your point.

No im not saying that. Im responding to reactions within this thread vs my opinion of the said player. Simply put if he was sold at seasons end i would be indifferent. (Not that im advocating his sale) whereas if we were to let go of Eriksen/Dele\Dembele i would be gutted.
 

jezz

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I like him as a person and before he got injured he was central to our press. However, since he got injured I think our play has moved on and I haven’t seen anything special since he has come back. If we want to push on we should be upgrading him in the summer. Who would be realistic ? Draxler.
My opinion differs considerably.
I say new contract.
All opinions of course
 

Basil Brush

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No im not saying that. Im responding to reactions within this thread vs my opinion of the said player. Simply put if he was sold at seasons end i would be indifferent. (Not that im advocating his sale) whereas if we were to let go of Eriksen/Dele\Dembele i would be gutted.
Fair enough.

I appreciate your opinion.

I would personally be gutted if we lost Toby or Jan.

I really like Lamela but each to their own
 

THFCSPURS19

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I like him as a person and before he got injured he was central to our press. However, since he got injured I think our play has moved on and I haven’t seen anything special since he has come back. If we want to push on we should be upgrading him in the summer. Who would be realistic ? Draxler.
Our play has moved on?

As in the sort of play which dominates Juventus in their own back yard?
 

doctor stefan Freud

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You have to admire two things here: Poch's call to start Lamela in such a big game, and Lamela's attitude to that call. Brilliant man-management and a really impressive response from Lamela which now throws him back in the mix for any starting XI.
 

am_yisrael_chai

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Our play has moved on?

As in the sort of play which dominates Juventus in their own back yard?
Yes our play isn’t all about pressing as it was when he was a regular.

We played fantastically as a team last night but that doesn’t mean every player who played was amazing. Would you use the result to justify support for Aurier for example ? I’m not saying Lamela played like Aurier but he wasn’t instrumental to our result in the way that Eriksen, Dele or Kane were. Even if he had been I’m looking at performance over a longer period. He doesn’t have pace, doesn’t dribble, has a weak shot, is totally one footed, his main attributes are his defensive abilities in forward areas and his eye for a pass. There are better players in making a killer pass who have more pace, better dribbling and better shooting, Draxler is one of them.
 

piedpiper

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Fair enough.

I appreciate your opinion.

I would personally be gutted if we lost Toby or Jan.

I really like Lamela but each to their own

Yes i too would be gutted to lose the aforementioned defenders. I accept your feelings on Lamela. Can i just say you one of a handful of posters who has been rationale and put forth a constructive angle... Very much against the grain of posters who refuse to see an alternate view. You have my respect(y).
 

Sweetsman

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Yes our play isn’t all about pressing as it was when he was a regular.

We played fantastically as a team last night but that doesn’t mean every player who played was amazing. Would you use the result to justify support for Aurier for example ? I’m not saying Lamela played like Aurier but he wasn’t instrumental to our result in the way that Eriksen, Dele or Kane were. Even if he had been I’m looking at performance over a longer period. He doesn’t have pace, doesn’t dribble, has a weak shot, is totally one footed, his main attributes are his defensive abilities in forward areas and his eye for a pass. There are better players in making a killer pass who have more pace, better dribbling and better shooting, Draxler is one of them.
He's not totally one-footed and being one-footed doesn't make you a bad player. Gerson was in the great 1970 Brazil team, very one-footed. Lamela doesn't need pace for what he does, he can certainly shoot and playing killer passes are not simple acts. Moreover, Pochettino holds him in high regard, which will do for me. A player may be gifted, but not be suited to our team.
 

Basil Brush

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He's not totally one-footed and being one-footed doesn't make you a bad player. Gerson was in the great 1970 Brazil team, very one-footed. Lamela doesn't need pace for what he does, he can certainly shoot and playing killer passes are not simple acts. Moreover, Pochettino holds him in high regard, which will do for me. A player may be gifted, but not be suited to our team.
The reason Poch loves him is his effort/endeavor.

Same reason Poch loves Sissoko.

However we are talking different skill levels between the 2.
 

Sweetsman

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Im not sure you would find any quote from me showing abuse to Lamela or any other player who puts on our shirt...

What you would find from me is critique or opnion on style of play. As i read through this thread its almost a cult like status some have for him.

I've said it repeatedly, i dont see what others see. He is no different to Dele/Son/Winks/Sissoko etc. Im indifferent to him. He has frustrated the hell out of me previously and his cameo's or full games since he's return have been acceptable... By acceptable i mean... He hasnt had me swearing or wanting him subbed. Whereas previously i wanted him sold or not selected as a starter.
My admiration for him is based on what he has had to surmount. The main hurdle has been the implacable dislike that some have had. At WHL, I just couldn't bear the constant diatribes towards him from one Greek-Cypriot idiot and I told him to shut the fuck up. He did along with a few people around him.
 

punkisback

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My admiration for him is based on what he has had to surmount. The main hurdle has been the implacable dislike that some have had. At WHL, I just couldn't bear the constant diatribes towards him from one Greek-Cypriot idiot and I told him to shut the fuck up. He did along with a few people around him.
Was this a guy in block D or E on the shelf, small guy would never shut up?
 

theShiznit

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A player that can pass the ball quicker than any other player we have, and with vision and appreciation of pace/timing of pass.

We have missed that skill in a lot of games.
 

Makkaveli101

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I like him as a person and before he got injured he was central to our press. However, since he got injured I think our play has moved on and I haven’t seen anything special since he has come back. If we want to push on we should be upgrading him in the summer. Who would be realistic ? Draxler.

You were the bloke that thought Van Der Vaart was too slow for the Premiership. You were the bloke who thought Modric was too lightweight for the Premiership. You spiel absolute feces from your mouth all over the forums and you're incapable of changing a thought process in your head once you've "decided". You're fucking blind. You have no concept of football and how mentality makes the difference these days. You have no fucking idea. :D
 
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